I don't think you will fully know until rehab is complete...buy looks like cocoa to me from the chart.
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Another color question… My rehabbed NYC Classic Pouch is driving me nuts. I thought British Tan when I bought her. But post rehab if it is, is it’s the darkest BT I’ve seen.
I think I reviewed every BT/Tabac/Mahogany/Mocha/Burgundy post in the Coach forum last night (until the wee hours) and I’m still not 100%. Welcome your more experienced opinions!!
The color transformation was astounding. Going to post in two posts…including lots of photos in case this is helpful to others down the road…
BEFORE
First 3 are seller pics which were actually more color accurate than next 3 taken with my iPad. Unboxed she looked even more reddish than brown, and ruff was straight up 1978-rust-corduroy-pants bright orange rust. (So much so that I really thought omg…) Colors in creed photo were the least accurate side by side with unboxed bag.
I think I reviewed every BT/Tabac/Mahogany/Mocha/Burgundy post in the Coach forum last night (until the wee hours) and I’m still not 100%. Welcome your more experienced opinions!!
The color transformation was astounding. Going to post in two posts…including lots of photos in case this is helpful to others down the road…
BEFORE
First 3 are seller pics which were actually more color accurate than next 3 taken with my iPad. Unboxed she looked even more reddish than brown, and ruff was straight up 1978-rust-corduroy-pants bright orange rust. (So much so that I really thought omg…) Colors in creed photo were the least accurate side by side with unboxed bag.
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Part 2 of NYC Classic Pouch (9170) color bingo….
AFTER
Bath water bleed was orange. Fresh from bath she was completely Dark Chocolate brown.
She’s had a lukewarm blue Dawn bath with gentle scrub and around 8 coats of CPR with buffing in between some. Nothing else. Though I plan to Black Rock or Renapur. I started CPR (😂) when fully blotted but still quite damp-wet bc she was soooo dry and completely covered in deep scuffs — much worse than visible in before pics.
IRL, leather is now a beautiful dark brown with red undertones, though the ruff looks cooler brown. I think outside too warm to be Mocha…
I was convinced she’s mahogany (which I think is beautiful and underrated!) and this bag did come in that color. Buuut, she’s NYC, the switch to “Made in USA” happened in 1988, maybe ‘89, after Miami opened and the first Mahogany I can find in catalogs was Holiday ‘88. So not impossible but really threading the needle. Classic Pouch came in all ten original 80s catalog colors… 1981 colors attached below for reference…the hangtag is from a different bag, in BT…
Curious to hear views!!
ETA: Last pic is hanging between Black and Saddle.
AFTER
Bath water bleed was orange. Fresh from bath she was completely Dark Chocolate brown.
She’s had a lukewarm blue Dawn bath with gentle scrub and around 8 coats of CPR with buffing in between some. Nothing else. Though I plan to Black Rock or Renapur. I started CPR (😂) when fully blotted but still quite damp-wet bc she was soooo dry and completely covered in deep scuffs — much worse than visible in before pics.
IRL, leather is now a beautiful dark brown with red undertones, though the ruff looks cooler brown. I think outside too warm to be Mocha…
I was convinced she’s mahogany (which I think is beautiful and underrated!) and this bag did come in that color. Buuut, she’s NYC, the switch to “Made in USA” happened in 1988, maybe ‘89, after Miami opened and the first Mahogany I can find in catalogs was Holiday ‘88. So not impossible but really threading the needle. Classic Pouch came in all ten original 80s catalog colors… 1981 colors attached below for reference…the hangtag is from a different bag, in BT…
Curious to hear views!!
ETA: Last pic is hanging between Black and Saddle.
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Looking at the color samples, I'm thinking "mocha." PS: It's BEAUTIFUL.
This must be contributing to why I can’t seem to find any vintage coach bags at reasonable prices these days…
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This looks like Cocoa to me. I rehabbed a Lightweights bag (Paris style) which was Cocoa (I have since sold it), and it looked just like the color your photos.
Thank you! I'm planning on selling this bag, and I like to be accurate in my descriptions.
Does anyone know what Grabutan leather is ? The Japanese sellers have been using that term lately.
aarrgh I keep loosing this thread
aarrgh I keep loosing this thread
Does anyone know what Grabutan leather is ? The Japanese sellers have been using that term lately.
aarrgh I keep loosing this thread
Weird. I found this single reference in a Japanese article that’s either AI or auto-translated or both (as indicated by faintly hilarious title)… https://fashion-trend.net/en/2021/0...port-regardless-of-sex-beyond-the-generation/
Maybe a mis-word has been picked up to try to sell as a reference to the earliest Coach leathers? Just theorizing…
Thanks @squeakyrose ! I looked everywhere and could find a definition for everything leather, but not Grabutan 
So I suspect this is another way for those sellers to try and grab attention.
So I suspect this is another way for those sellers to try and grab attention.
Traveled to Chicago over the weekend and of course had to stop in the Coach store on Michigan Ave. Picked up a nice new pair of leather gloves and got this cute hangtag to put on my favorite travel bag, my Italian made 4182 large tote. It’s a good stand in for the new Brooklyn bag. I prefer totes with 2 handles over hobos with one handle. My bag is pictured in front of my Babette blanket, any crocheters out there in Coach world?
Your crochet is beautiful!! Love the skyline momento, such a cute idea.
I’m wondering if this rings a bell for anyone… I just ordered a 2006 65th Ali with Legacy lining from eBay, which @whateve graciously authenticated (thank you again!). I’ve been looking for one. It’s for myself, got a nice discount from the seller and a good price. I don’t plan to be precious with it. I can’t wait to work on the verdigris and patina. But it has a quirk. The label and zipper pull are white — not brown — which I kinda love. I’ve scanned dozens of these bags online now and I can’t find a single other white label. Has anyone seen this before? Any insights?
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Do you have a good collection of the city hangtags? I started it awhile ago then stopped after I had only gotten a few. I don't travel enough to places that have a Coach store that offers them, other than Las Vegas.
I am a crocheter. I can't stand watching TV without doing something with my hands. Sometimes I'm playing games on my tablet. The rest of the time I crochet. (Occasionally I knit, but I prefer crochet.) Making blankets is the most fun but I have so many that lately I've been making sweaters. I don't like making granny squares much because I hate joining. I've made a few round afghans that are made like one giant granny circle, so no joining. I love C2C designs as there are no long starting chains and it is exciting seeing the pattern develop.
I only have the Chicago hangtag. Looking forward to getting more of them!
Ha! Yes I get it about the joining! But I do like joined blankets because of the portability so I usually have one going in a to go bag so I have a project to take along with me, and the stripey grow as you go type are left at home once they get too large to fit in a tote bag.
I like the designs from Attic 24, require just the right amount of concentration without becoming frustrating. And then there’s the times I just want completely mindless, repetitive, soothing crochet and that’s when I do the giant granny square blanket pattern.
Yarn is one of my several vices, I just love really nice yarn. I figure if I’m gonna spend many hours making a blanket or socks for myself it’s going to be cashmere or merino. Unfortunately yarn doesn’t have the resale value that bags, jewelry and art do so I gotta use it up!
Maybe we should make little granny square bag charms?