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Sending it to the address provided, same town, it might be she wanted it delivered somewhere else
You mean you’re going to use the label already provided, or you think it’s probably genuine because the second address is the same town?

I know, it could be a request in good faith, but everything’s meant to go to the address on record, and in my view it’s not a very reasonable buyer request for this sort of transaction with a middleman. VC would have to check with the account holder that it’s really her, probably get her to change the shipping address on her account at least temporarily, reset the sale to generate a new label etc. I mean, it’s worth a try, but it’s got to be done by the buyer, not by you, because only she can prove it’s the right person at a different address. She needs to alter her account and ask VC if they’ll generate a new label; I’d tell her you can only do it if she sorts it out with VC before the 5 days are up. If she wanted to do this she should really have edited her shipping address before purchasing. She could always change it back again if she only wants to do it this time. If she can’t get them to offer a new label, or if she doesn’t get back to you within 5 days of the sale, I would cancel for sure.

An alternative would be (assuming she is in conversation with you), you could cancel the sale, resubmit the item to VC, she changes her shipping address on the account and watches for the item to come back online to buy quickly before someone else does.
 
You mean you’re going to use the label already provided, or you think it’s probably genuine because the second address is the same town?

I know, it could be a request in good faith, but everything’s meant to go to the address on record, and in my view it’s not a very reasonable buyer request for this sort of transaction with a middleman. VC would have to check with the account holder that it’s really her, probably get her to change the shipping address on her account at least temporarily, reset the sale to generate a new label etc. I mean, it’s worth a try, but it’s got to be done by the buyer, not by you, because only she can prove it’s the right person at a different address. She needs to alter her account and ask VC if they’ll generate a new label; I’d tell her you can only do it if she sorts it out with VC before the 5 days are up. If she wanted to do this she should really have edited her shipping address before purchasing. She could always change it back again if she only wants to do it this time. If she can’t get them to offer a new label, or if she doesn’t get back to you within 5 days of the sale, I would cancel for sure.

An alternative would be (assuming she is in conversation with you), you could cancel the sale, resubmit the item to VC, she changes her shipping address on the account and watches for the item to come back online to buy quickly before someone else does.

She said she needs it urgently for a party and wanted it delivered to her mom's address as mom is always in, gave her the tracking and suggested her mom goes to her place and accepts the parcel for her as she can see which day it will be delivered
 
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She said she needs it urgently for a party and wanted it delivered to her mom's address as mom is always in, gave her the tracking and suggested her mom goes to her place and accepts the parcel for her as she can see which day it will be delivered
I think that’s the wise choice for sure. I don’t think it’s your responsibility to help this person get a dress in time for a party. There was a way she could have sorted this out before buying. And anyone can invent a plausible story as to why they want a different shipping address. She could very well be someone who lives in the same town, have picked up someone’s phone open on the VC app in a local bar, for all we know, ordered something on their account, kept the phone ... Who knows? I think you’re right to use the label provided and she can make arrangements. Alternatively, cancel. Her choice. VC wouldn’t be wise themselves to give a new label without the account being amended by the buyer properly using her own log-in.

I take it this is direct shipping?
ETA Doh! Daft question, of course it’s direct shipping, otherwise you’d be shipping to VC anyway :giggle:
 
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I think that’s the wise choice for sure. I don’t think it’s your responsibility to help this person get a dress in time for a party. There was a way she could have sorted this out before buying. And anyone can invent a plausible story as to why they want a different shipping address. She could very well be someone who lives in the same town, have picked up someone’s phone open on the VC app in a local bar, for all we know, ordered something on their account, kept the phone ... Who knows? I think you’re right to use the label provided and she can make arrangements. Alternatively, cancel. Her choice. VC wouldn’t be wise themselves to give a new label without the account being amended by the buyer properly using her own log-in.

I take it this is direct shipping?
ETA Doh! Daft question, of course it’s direct shipping, otherwise you’d be shipping to VC anyway :giggle:

I found it odd that she put the other address on VC where everybody can see it, but they removed it now
 
I can't see her profile, maybe she is totally new to it?
That’s odd, you should be able to see it even if she’s new. It would just show that she hasn’t got anything for sale if she’s totally new, but it would be there. You’re clicking on the Vestiaire profile pic next to the sale notification which shows you who bought it? Or on her profile pic next to her messages to you on your item page? If those are not working as usual I think they might have deleted her account.
 
I really do not have that on the laptop
Oh, I didn’t realise it worked differently on the website. I find that quite handy on the app, because I can leave a message for someone who has bought or ‘favourited’ or wish-listed one of my items on an item in their profile (if they have anything for sale), because they might not see it if I just leave a message on the item they’re interested in/ have bought. Did she ever favourite or wish list the item? I think if you look in ‘News’ on your account on the website you can click on her profile there. I don’t expect it matters much to you now, the sale’s done and you’re shipping with the original label. It’s quite interesting though, to see if she’s evaporated!

They also seem to be having massive delays when it comes to QC, they claim 3 days but one item they have for 5 days now
Maybe it varies between brands? I think they have different checkers for different brands or values. Maybe there’s a backlog on some. I’ve sold a lot recently and I haven’t had hitches so far, or at least I can only think of a couple over the last month or two where it was slower. I think they aim for three days max but I suppose there are delays sometimes.




You know what you were saying about thinking there was one person valuing too low then you came back £1 lower and they accepted it? I think that’s just because they’ve changed how they assess the pricing. I’m not sure there’s a person involved at all at the first stage, unless simply in data input. The first email that comes with a lower price suggestion than the one you wanted has changed, now saying the algorithm predicts what will get you a quick sale based on past sales of similar items, but that the final decision on price is yours. I’ve found if I go back with something much nearer my original price than their suggestion, it gets accepted pretty immediately, when previously there might have been two or three tries before an agreed price. So at that stage they are accepting my decision on price ...

... But the email also now says that accepting the lower price suggestion means the item will be more visible online, i.e. they’re putting the best bargains higher up than the higher priced versions of the same thing, which might be annoying, but there’s an argument for it, and I expect a price somewhere in the middle gets a bit more of a boost than something high that I originally suggested, judging by how many likes and wish-listings I’m getting at the moment. So it looks like they are accepting it when you stick more or less to your price, but are offering greater visibility if you go with theirs or compromise. I think that’s fair enough and logical to an extent.

I think they’re trying to reduce the amount of stuff sitting unsold for months and even years (and I have to admit I’ve had to reduce things I priced higher to their suggested level before I could sell them on several occasions, but I wanted to try higher first). An item second hand is only ever worth what someone will pay for it, regardless of its quality or original price first hand. But on the other hand an algorithm is only as good as the data input, and if it’s not just fully automatic when an item is first submitted by a seller, but relies on someone on curation inputting data about it, they could fail to input all relevant data, or even just make a typo, resulting in a too-low price. The algorithm could also over-average out values. So then the trouble comes I think when the algorithm can’t tell the difference between premium and bog-standard items from the same brand, and the averaging out is really extreme. It probably works most of the time, but it doesn’t work well for some items. I would think that with enormous amount of stuff they have coming in every day, they can’t hope to do it all individually unless they have thousands of employees, which I don’t believe they do. But you can still get close to your original price accepted because that’s policy now by the looks of it, which is something both of us felt was fairer in the past. Sometimes I’d rather wait for a sale at my higher price than go too low for a quick sale. It just depends on the item.
 
Tbh if I am selling a high end item for their suggested price, it is a joke, if I get more on eBay, why would I go through them? But I don't think it is automated, I listed several items of the same brand and one or two of them they came back with the totally stupid suggestions. I would assume a lot of people simply sell somewhere else than deal with that.
 
Tbh if I am selling a high end item for their suggested price, it is a joke, if I get more on eBay, why would I go through them? But I don't think it is automated, I listed several items of the same brand and one or two of them they came back with the totally stupid suggestions. I would assume a lot of people simply sell somewhere else than deal with that.
Well, you know I totally agree about not selling for a crazy price, but I’d still prefer not to go through the hassles eBay involves, and on the whole you won’t have to sell for a crazily low price unless the item just doesn’t sell higher and you chose to reduce it, because they will accept your counter-suggestion on price pretty quickly now. They never used to say that the final price is your decision as they do in those emails now. I think actually in the first instance it is automatically generated now with VC, it’s what they’ve said, but my thinking was, if the algorithm requires more than automatic input at that point, and an employee puts in the wrong info even just making a single figure typo, it could result in very wrong suggestions at the first hurdle. You can imagine that happening very easily if they’re ploughing through a whole heap of submissions. But as they seem to be readily accepting counter-suggestions pretty much immediately now it maybe isn’t such a problem as it might seem, and actually addresses the feeling we had about having to price too low in the past. On every initial price suggestion from them I’ve countered, my price has been accepted with no further negotiation even when very close to my original price, as with your £1 lower. It might mean being a bit lower in the listings and slightly less visible, which doesn’t seem to have been a problem for me so far, as I’m getting those likes and sales on some items I stuck to pretty much the same as my original price. Others, I’ve had to reduce a lot before people show interest and I kind of expect it would have been the same wherever I was selling. Unfortunately sometimes it’s just true that however great the item originally, it won’t sell higher anywhere. Things lose value so quickly. Not always though, for sure.
 
But if something has cost me 2 to 3K a few months ago, before I take their suggestion to sell it for 40, I think I don't bother at all, sometimes they are really trying to take the proverbial...

I tend to list the items across several platforms, stopped listing on Rebelle because they were so weird and because they raised their commission so drastically, oddly enough people would pay more for items on Rebelle, don't really know why.... I found that different platforms tend to attract different people, on some you get more for items that sit on another like sour beer.
 
But if something has cost me 2 to 3K a few months ago, before I take their suggestion to sell it for 40, I think I don't bother at all, sometimes they are really trying to take the proverbial...

I tend to list the items across several platforms, stopped listing on Rebelle because they were so weird and because they raised their commission so drastically, oddly enough people would pay more for items on Rebelle, don't really know why.... I found that different platforms tend to attract different people, on some you get more for items that sit on another like sour beer.

Well that sounds pretty awful, I’ve never had them suggest anything like as low as that on such a recent and expensive item. £40 on a recent £2K to £3K item? I suppose someone might have missed off a zero by mistake. £400 sounds a more likely suggestion; I’d negotiate for more than that and it seems they’d accept my counter suggestion straight away now, but I am realistic that people don’t generally pay much more than that except for real collector’s items or high end bags. I’d definitely email management about a £40 offer on such an item, they can’t conceivably want that going on. It would make no sense at all for them, they want those items on the website. Something must need adjustment in that algorithm or in the data input if it’s producing such an egregious suggestion.
 
Well that sounds pretty awful, I’ve never had them suggest anything like as low as that on such a recent and expensive item. £40 on a recent £2K to £3K item? I suppose someone might have missed off a zero by mistake. £400 sounds a more likely suggestion; I’d negotiate for more than that and it seems they’d accept my counter suggestion straight away now, but I am realistic that people don’t generally pay much more than that except for real collector’s items or high end bags. I’d definitely email management about a £40 offer on such an item, they can’t conceivably want that going on. It would make no sense at all for them, they want those items on the website. Something must need adjustment in that algorithm or in the data input if it’s producing such an egregious suggestion.

I listed a few things that were expensive quite cheap just to have less stuff to deal with and it's goine, and they came back with really low ball suggestions, that is why I think some weirdo there is taking the proverbial, pushing to see how far you are willing to go... It is especially annoying if you then see items that are much older listed for much higher and selling fast.
 
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