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Hi! I'll share my thoughts which might help in your decision. I'll share two perspectives so you can see both views.

First... what would I do if I were me... :biggrin::heart:
There would be no debate in my head, I would get the 20 YG MOP. Why?
This is because of the jewelry categories, I love rings first and then long necklaces. Above all else, my priority is big rings and long necklaces. I only buy bracelets and earrings as secondary to coordinate with a ring or long necklace. I have no problem wearing long necklaces, anywhere from 30" to 52" and they are part of my everyday look.

Earrings are not important to me. I can't see them once I put them on. However, I can see my rings and long necklaces all day and therefore keep my ear-to-ear grin all day.

That's me, but now on to you... what would I do if I were you... :smile::heart:
I think you are different than me. You mentioned you do not wear your Magic long much as it gets in the way and you are afraid to damage it. For this reason, I think you will also not wear the 20 YG MOP at all. You will worry more about damaging it as the price of the 20 is more than the Magic pendant. That would be a waste to buy a 20 and not wear it. I think the timing is not right for you to get the YG 20 MOP. I would wait until you feel better about wearing it and are ready to dive in. That day will come.

I would suggest you start wearing your Magic long pendant more.
Before I started to wear a lot of long necklaces and piling them on, I started with one long pendant. I wore my long pendant ocassionally. I then realized how I love the swing of a long necklace and how easy it was to wear, so I started wearing my long pendant everyday. It became my look. I purchased other long necklaces (not just long pendants) and here I am... a lover of long necklaces! I share this story because this might be your journey too, but you will never know until you start wearing your Magic long. So... skip the YG 20 MOP for now, but do start wearing your Magic long pendant. Wear it tomorrow! Go go go!

SIDE NOTE: A 10 motif + 5 motif, unaltered, is going to be 24" (e.g. 16.5" + 7.5"). Depending on how you are built, 24" is an odd length for a necklace. The necklace may land in no-man's land, and if you have big boobies, the chain may look like it's falling off a cliff or trapped in a valley.

So... what to buy? Which brings me to those fabulous WG Frivole pave earrings...
You said you always wear earrings before you leave the house. You love earrings, and they are your focal point.
Earrings to you are like rings to me... one can never have too many, especially if you love them.

I do not think WG Frivole pave earrings are redundant in your collection. On the contrary, it is a great choice.
I think the way to see earrings is not by their "design" (e.g. four leaf clover, flower), but rather, by their "material" (e.g. metal, stone, diamonds).

For example, some people only collect Alhambra, and the design is a four leaf clover. Yet they buy that same four leaf clover earring in different materials such as metal (hammered/guilloche), stone (MOP, onyx), and diamonds (pave). Each four-leaf clover earring looks different because of the material.

The best example of design vs. material is Chanel/Hermes bags. Many people collect them, yet the design is the same (Classic Flap, Coco Handle, Birkin, Kelly). No one worries about the redundant design as the design is what they love! The focus is on the material/color which makes the bag. I hope that makes sense.

It is the same with Frivole, which the design is a flower. An all-metal YG flower earring is a very different look than a pave diamond flower earring because of the materials (e.g. all gold vs. diamond pave).

On earrings in a jewelry collection...
I think it's good to have a mix of earrings, especially for an earring lover like you. Earrings can be your trademark; every jewelry lover has a trademark look. Based on your current earring collection, I think you have the mini/sweet size earrings and metal earrings covered. What I do not see is a "diamond pave" set of earrings. The WG Frivole pave earrings would be perfect.

On the WG Friviole pave earrings...
I think you know how much I love love love these earrings. To put my love in context for you because you are undecided...
I have other earrings (e.g. diamonds, emeralds, pearls, etc..), and most are priced higher than these Frivole pave. However, if you told me I could only keep one pair of earrings, I would choose these. Why? Because I love the artistic design and how they are so beautiful on the ear.

The WG Frivole pave earrings are truly fabulous. The design is beautiful, and they have a gorgeous presence on the ear. The flower opens on the ear, and the diamond pave is super super sparkly. You cannot miss them. Worn with shorts or jeans, they are fun. Worn with a suit/dress, they are elegant. A truly versatile earring and so unique.

So... my two cents...
I vote WG Frivole pave earrings for you. Hope this helps, and congratulations on your new piece! :hugs:
You are always so sweet and helpful! Indeed earrings for me are indeed like the ring to you. I am around 5’6 so neither very tall or petite, indeed 10+5 might be too short for me to scratch my “long necklace” itch. I think you are right that I will probably not wear 20 as I will be afraid of destroying it. Maybe in the future I will reach the state of mind that I do not care as much… :angel: you are totally right about the magic too! I should wear it more often and then decide if I want the 20, and not settle down for the 10. Now I am wondering what will be your next piece:love:
 
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You are always so sweet and helpful! Indeed earrings for me are indeed like the ring to you. I am around 5’6 so neither very tall or petite, indeed 10+5 might be too short for me to scratch my “long necklace” itch. I think you are right that I will probably not wear 20 as I will be afraid of destroying it. Maybe in the future I will reach the state of mind that I do not care as much… :angel: you are totally right about the magic too! I should wear it more often and then decide if I want the 20, and not settle down for the 10. Now I am wondering what will be your next piece:love:
I am glad that was helpful. Whatever you decide, I am sure you will love it. All VCA is gorgeous.

Good question on my next piece.
I was so close to getting a WG guilloche set (it has a 20!), but in the end, I decided against it as metal link chain necklaces are not my style.

I am kind of bummed as I am running out of ideas. I have scoured the website for all white gold options, and the only piece I like (but not love), is the butterfly BTF ring. I love rings as you know, and I love love love BTF rings. I have the WG Frivole pave BTF ring and the Lotus BTF ring, and I want to get a couple more. Next time I visit VCA, I want to try on the butterfly BTF ring and perhaps I will see it in a new light and get that ear-to-ear grin.

I do hope VCA comes out with more WG pieces for 2023 perhaps a new BTF style ring.

On the 10, with you being 5' 6", I think the 10+5 is going to be too short. If I guess correctly, I think it will land right at the bottom of the boobies/high on the ribcage, and that's a bit short. Long necklaces need to land near the torso/waist as that focal point.
Wait to get the 20; it's 34" and a great length for a long necklace.

Plus... one day, I think you will love wearing long necklaces and pendants. You now have the best of both.. a matching 20 and Magic long. You can layer them perfectly. The 20 is 34" and the Magic long is 35", and it's perfect for layering as the Magic pendant will peek out from under the 20.
 
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That's what I raised a few weeks ago, at the Ginza boutique when I purchased a 20 motif necklace, I was asked to choose between the official box / case OR the travel pouch and I was stunned.
Wow! I will have to ask my SA about this!!! It’s unfortunate you had to choose, especially for a 20 Motif.

Each time I didn’t receive a travel pouch, I informed them about it and they did end up shipping it to me.
 
I am considering purchasing a Magic 5 motif bracelet to go with my new WG MOP magic pendant. I have some concerns about the hanging motif. If you could share your experience with the magic 5 motif bracelet it would be greatly appreciated!
 
I am considering purchasing a Magic 5 motif bracelet to go with my new WG MOP magic pendant. I have some concerns about the hanging motif. If you could share your experience with the magic 5 motif bracelet it would be greatly appreciated!
Wear my onyx/WG day in and day out. No problems. The only incident I've had was a freak accident where it got stuck in a sauce pot's handle. That being said, MOP is drastically different than onyx so YMMV but I wouldn't worry about the dangling motifs.
 
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I am glad that was helpful. Whatever you decide, I am sure you will love it. All VCA is gorgeous.

Good question on my next piece.
I was so close to getting a WG guilloche set (it has a 20!), but in the end, I decided against it as metal link chain necklaces are not my style.

I am kind of bummed as I am running out of ideas. I have scoured the website for all white gold options, and the only piece I like (but not love), is the butterfly BTF ring. I love rings as you know, and I love love love BTF rings. I have the WG Frivole pave BTF ring and the Lotus BTF ring, and I want to get a couple more. Next time I visit VCA, I want to try on the butterfly BTF ring and perhaps I will see it in a new light and get that ear-to-ear grin.

I do hope VCA comes out with more WG pieces for 2023 perhaps a new BTF style ring.

On the 10, with you being 5' 6", I think the 10+5 is going to be too short. If I guess correctly, I think it will land right at the bottom of the boobies/high on the ribcage, and that's a bit short. Long necklaces need to land near the torso/waist as that focal point.
Wait to get the 20; it's 34" and a great length for a long necklace.

Plus... one day, I think you will love wearing long necklaces and pendants. You now have the best of both.. a matching 20 and Magic long. You can layer them perfectly. The 20 is 34" and the Magic long is 35", and it's perfect for layering as the Magic pendant will peek out from under the 20.
I think pave cosmos btf ring would look stunning on you! It is bold yet elegant. Here how I imagine it… your gorgeous WG alhambra set with 20 and earrings, bold cosmos pave ring and the pave cosmos clip attached to your 20 motif :nuts: just like Grace Kelly’s famous photo with her 20, with more bling! I am still cheating with my magic, I keep finding myself wearing my WG pave pendant amd sweets. I think at this point I definitely need that pair of more statement earrings in WG. So I will get the pave frivole and maybe even the vintage WG MOP later on:biggrin:
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Hi!! I was in Paris for the last 2 weeks and I had the opportunity to try on the large Frivole earrings in gold at Place Vendome. It was surprising to me that these earrings were actually available in store, and also how much I liked them on me! I own the gold Frivole in small and I do like them (At the time, I convinced myself I would prefer the small over the large since I was not able to try on either). The thing I do not love about the small size is that you can see the earring clasp, which is hidden by the large size.
Do you all think I should sell the small Frivole and order the large? Or keep what I have since I do like them and a nice size compared to the other earrings in my collection? For context, my earring collection is (1) small Frivole in gold (2) small Frivole Pave in white gold (3) vintage Guilloche in gold (4) 3 motif magic earrings in YG (5) 2 motif magic earrings in White Mother of Pearl. (6) I plan on ordering the vintage Pave Alhambra earrings in YG when the list opens up. (FYI - I also don’t want the same pair in different sizes).

I would appreciate your thoughts!!
 
Hi!! I was in Paris for the last 2 weeks and I had the opportunity to try on the large Frivole earrings in gold at Place Vendome. It was surprising to me that these earrings were actually available in store, and also how much I liked them on me! I own the gold Frivole in small and I do like them (At the time, I convinced myself I would prefer the small over the large since I was not able to try on either). The thing I do not love about the small size is that you can see the earring clasp, which is hidden by the large size.
Do you all think I should sell the small Frivole and order the large? Or keep what I have since I do like them and a nice size compared to the other earrings in my collection? For context, my earring collection is (1) small Frivole in gold (2) small Frivole Pave in white gold (3) vintage Guilloche in gold (4) 3 motif magic earrings in YG (5) 2 motif magic earrings in White Mother of Pearl. (6) I plan on ordering the vintage Pave Alhambra earrings in YG when the list opens up. (FYI - I also don’t want the same pair in different sizes).

I would appreciate your thoughts!!
You have a very nice earring collection! To me, the large Frivole are more of a statement earring and not quite as casual as the small. You have the yg guilloche and plan to order the yg pave Alhambra, so that would make 3 yg pairs around the same size. So in a way, I can see the large Frivole filling a size that you don't currently have since your Magic earrings are 2 and 3 motifs. It just depends on your needs and whether you need the small yg Frivole for very casual wear or whether you'd wear the large ones more. I have tried on the small and felt they were just a little too small, but I've never had the opportunity to try on the large and am afraid they might be too large! Those are very different sizes and ideally I'd love a size in between!
 
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