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No, this is perfect, a good old-fashioned @BigAkoya jewelry discussion!!!

You are absolutely right about anyone wearing wg, of course.
Me, showing my SA (and her fabulous assistant): “hey, it looks good on me again!”
Them: “it always did!” :facepalm:

Flowerlace is beautiful; however, i didn‘t include it because my SA did remark about it being - I don’t think it’s going to be so easy to find. I do like Flowerlace more than some of the other lines, but I think youve really nailed it about the Wg pave. I do love the Magic look, you are absolutely right. And I really don’t have an issue selling my jewelry, it just seems like such a PITA to order what I already have in a different gold (Ah, to be able to just dip it like I used to do with my no-name pieces!)

I do like my YG Magic pave pieces, but tbh if I had the same pieces in PG I would never wear the YG ones. It would probably be redundant to have Magic Pave earrings in wg *and* pg, which is why one would be 1 motif and the other would be 3 (and I already have a pg 3 motif earring SO, which is why the PG should be the 1 motif and the wg should be the 3). Not sure what to do about the guilloche/pave 10-motif, though…I really have only worn it as an anklet (doubled with an extender).

At some point I would get a WG ring, but it might not even be VCA; I have a PG Pasquale Bruni ring which I would probably get in wg instead. I seem to be a lot pickier with rings than with other pieces and currently nothing VCA beats the Noeud.

Thanks so much!


Yes yes yes you are also right. Thank you!!!
I know exactly what you should do with the guilloche/pave 10-motif necklace/anklet!!! :hbeat::angel: I have been singing my siren song for it!

I just purchased my first Pasquale Bruni PG pink sapphire piece; inspired by you! I also love the Chaumet gemstone floral line, but Pasquale Bruni is very well-priced for the design and detail!
 
No, this is perfect, a good old-fashioned @BigAkoya jewelry discussion!!!

You are absolutely right about anyone wearing wg, of course.
Me, showing my SA (and her fabulous assistant): “hey, it looks good on me again!”
Them: “it always did!” :facepalm:

Flowerlace is beautiful; however, i didn‘t include it because my SA did remark about it being - I don’t think it’s going to be so easy to find. I do like Flowerlace more than some of the other lines, but I think youve really nailed it about the Wg pave. I do love the Magic look, you are absolutely right. And I really don’t have an issue selling my jewelry, it just seems like such a PITA to order what I already have in a different gold (Ah, to be able to just dip it like I used to do with my no-name pieces!)

I do like my YG Magic pave pieces, but tbh if I had the same pieces in PG I would never wear the YG ones. It would probably be redundant to have Magic Pave earrings in wg *and* pg, which is why one would be 1 motif and the other would be 3 (and I already have a pg 3 motif earring SO, which is why the PG should be the 1 motif and the wg should be the 3). Not sure what to do about the guilloche/pave 10-motif, though…I really have only worn it as an anklet (doubled with an extender).

At some point I would get a WG ring, but it might not even be VCA; I have a PG Pasquale Bruni ring which I would probably get in wg instead. I seem to be a lot pickier with rings than with other pieces and currently nothing VCA beats the Noeud.

Thanks so much!


Yes yes yes you are also right. Thank you!!!
I'm glad that was helpful. I think you will love love love you WG Magic pave pieces. There is nothing more sparkly than pave diamonds in WG (or platinum). You can't see the metal, and all you see are the super white sparkly diamonds!

On the guilloche/pave 10, my two cents again (I am running out pennies, so I will keep this short before people start giving me the hook here! :biggrin: :heart:). I would sell that necklace especially if all you are wearing it for is an anklet.
To me, as a bling lover myself, I find guilloche/pave neither here nor there. Even though it has diamonds, the diamonds are so small, and there is so much gold, the gold overpowers it. The eye is first drawn to all that shiny gold, then it's "oh, there are some tiny diamonds too." Therefore, to me, it looks more like a gold chain necklace with a few diamonds sprinkled. That's my personal opinion on that necklace, and it may also be why you don't wear it as a necklace... just not enough bling. Either way, if you don't love it, get rid of it. I tell my husband when he has junk he never wears or uses "it's a false economy, you think you have all this stuff, but you never use it. Toss it and get stuff you use."

My last thought if I may...
On a ring... I know you love Noeud, and I do too! It's a super gorgeous ring, and while it is airy, it has a lot of coverage which I love.

I tried on a bunch of bow rings (e.g. Graff, Picchiotti), and if you like bow rings, maybe also try Picchiotti's bow ring. It comes in two sizes, and it has a lot of presence as the design is tight all over full pave. I didn't buy it, as in the end, I decided I am not a bow person (the look is too girly for me), so as much as I love the beauty and design of bow jewelry, the look is not my look. Perhaps one day, if my look ever changes to more girly girl, I will buy this ring, as I do love it!

Here is a photo in case you might like it. I am wearing the small size. The third photo is the small size with a mockup of the large size. This is part of their Fiocco bow collection which they also have earrings. In the link, the photo at the top of the webpage shows the model wearing both sizes, so just FYI in case you might like this bow collection. It's stunning, and I love the bold presence of the ring as it is fully covered in pave diamonds. You see no metal to compete with it, just the gorgeous design and diamond bling. https://www.picchiotti.it/en/catalogo/alta-gioielleria/picchiotti/fine-jewelry/fiocco/

I tried on Graff too, Tilda's Bow, and it's a bit dainty for me. I think you will find it dainty too.

Hope this helps. Ok, I will really zip it! You just got me excited talking about other non-VCA jewelry! I agree with you also… there is a lot of gorgeous bling out there beyond VCA. Good luck!


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I know exactly what you should do with the guilloche/pave 10-motif necklace/anklet!!! :hbeat::angel: I have been singing my siren song for it!

I just purchased my first Pasquale Bruni PG pink sapphire piece; inspired by you! I also love the Chaumet gemstone floral line, but Pasquale Bruni is very well-priced for the design and detail!
Girl, you’ve got me thinking!
 
I'm glad that was helpful. I think you will love love love you WG Magic pave pieces. There is nothing more sparkly than pave diamonds in WG (or platinum). You can't see the metal, and all you see are the super white sparkly diamonds!

On the guilloche/pave 10, my two cents again (I am running out pennies, so I will keep this short before people start giving me the hook here! :biggrin: :heart:). I would sell that necklace especially if all you are wearing it for is an anklet.
To me, as a bling lover myself, I find guilloche/pave neither here nor there. Even though it has diamonds, the diamonds are so small, and there is so much gold, the gold overpowers it. The eye is first drawn to all that shiny gold, then it's "oh, there are some tiny diamonds too." Therefore, to me, it looks more like a gold chain necklace with a few diamonds sprinkled. That's my personal opinion on that necklace, and it may also be why you don't wear it as a necklace... just not enough bling. Either way, if you don't love it, get rid of it. I tell my husband when he has junk he never wears or uses "it's a false economy, you think you have all this stuff, but you never use it. Toss it and get stuff you use."

My last thought if I may...
On a ring... I know you love Noeud, and I do too! It's a super gorgeous ring, and while it is airy, it has a lot of coverage which I love.

I tried on a bunch of bow rings (e.g. Graff, Picchiotti), and if you like bow rings, maybe also try Picchiotti's bow ring. It comes in two sizes, and it has a lot of presence as the design is tight all over full pave. I didn't buy it, as in the end, I decided I am not a bow person (the look is too girly for me), so as much as I love the beauty and design of bow jewelry, the look is not my look. Perhaps one day, if my look ever changes to more girly girl, I will buy this ring, as I do love it!

Here is a photo in case you might like it. I am wearing the small size. The third photo is the small size with a mockup of the large size. This is part of their Fiocco bow collection which they also have earrings. In the link, the photo at the top of the webpage shows the model wearing both sizes, so just FYI in case you might like this bow collection. It's stunning, and I love the bold presence of the ring as it is fully covered in pave diamonds. You see no metal to compete with it, just the gorgeous design and diamond bling. https://www.picchiotti.it/en/catalogo/alta-gioielleria/picchiotti/fine-jewelry/fiocco/

I tried on Graff too, Tilda's Bow, and it's a bit dainty for me. I think you will find it dainty too.

Hope this helps. Ok, I will really zip it! You just got me excited talking about other non-VCA jewelry! I agree with you also… there is a lot of gorgeous bling out there beyond VCA. Good luck!


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Sweetie, it is not too much, and it is all appreciated. :hugs:
I enjoy your advice, and I know you are right.
That Picchiotti ring is absolutely gorgeous, and looks stunning on your hand. Very blingy, which I love, but I think the style is maybe a bit too literal for me. Plus I just like the proportions of the Noeud on my hand:

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It’s just looks substantial while still being really an interpretation of a bow - like why I love Bruni’s flowers; they’re clearly floral without looking like an exact flower. And it’s not too big or too small on my hand. Like you, I don’t tend to go for super-girly pieces, the Noeud is probably as close as I’d get to that style, because my style is feminine to begin with, so I try to balance it.

As always, thank you!
 
Sweetie, it is not too much, and it is all appreciated. :hugs:
I enjoy your advice, and I know you are right.
That Picchiotti ring is absolutely gorgeous, and looks stunning on your hand. Very blingy, which I love, but I think the style is maybe a bit too literal for me. Plus I just like the proportions of the Noeud on my hand:

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It’s just looks substantial while still being really an interpretation of a bow - like why I love Bruni’s flowers; they’re clearly floral without looking like an exact flower. And it’s not too big or too small on my hand. Like you, I don’t tend to go for super-girly pieces, the Noeud is probably as close as I’d get to that style, because my style is feminine to begin with, so I try to balance it.

As always, thank you!
I’m sure whatever you get will be fabulous so be sure to come show us!
 
Sweetie, it is not too much, and it is all appreciated. :hugs:
I enjoy your advice, and I know you are right.
That Picchiotti ring is absolutely gorgeous, and looks stunning on your hand. Very blingy, which I love, but I think the style is maybe a bit too literal for me. Plus I just like the proportions of the Noeud on my hand:

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It’s just looks substantial while still being really an interpretation of a bow - like why I love Bruni’s flowers; they’re clearly floral without looking like an exact flower. And it’s not too big or too small on my hand. Like you, I don’t tend to go for super-girly pieces, the Noeud is probably as close as I’d get to that style, because my style is feminine to begin with, so I try to balance it.

As always, thank you!

This one looks so beautiful on you, both design and scale. Like you, I like that this is a more stylized bow, plus it's light and airy while still having a significant presence. :flowers: Perfect!
 
Dear VCA lovers, I’m in need of your advice. For those with Diamond pavè frivole pendants, did you extend the chain or not? I just finally opened mine and now can’t decide if it will look/fall better if it were longer. I also noticed that chain twists so maybe making it longer would prevent it. Welcome your thoughts. Thank you as always.
 
Dear VCA lovers, I’m in need of your advice. For those with Diamond pavè frivole pendants, did you extend the chain or not? I just finally opened mine and now can’t decide if it will look/fall better if it were longer. I also noticed that chain twists so maybe making it longer would prevent it. Welcome your thoughts. Thank you as always.
I have pave vintage and it twisted a lot and it would become much shorter. I extended it and it still twists but it’s not as bad.
 
Hi all,
I was wondering if I could get some information on the Perlee Clover bracelet.
Do you hear a clicking sound when the bracelet is closed and locked? I feel that I can still shift the bracelet at the closure and it makes a tiny clicking sound because of the metals clashing.
Would appreciate any feedback :smile:

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Hi everyone! I’m heading to Rome for my first Europe trip in a few weeks and have my eye on the gold 5 motif guilloche bracelet and a sweet Alhambra butterfly necklace with MOP as souvenirs. Wondering what inventory is looking like and if there’s any advice anyone can pass on to help increase my odds (setting up an appt with a note that I’m looking to purchase these items, getting in touch with an SA, etc). Otherwise I’ll have to look into some back up wish list items :lol:. TIA, hoping to join the VCA club soon!
 
Hi all,
I was wondering if I could get some information on the Perlee Clover bracelet.
Do you hear a clicking sound when the bracelet is closed and locked? I feel that I can still shift the bracelet at the closure and it makes a tiny clicking sound because of the metals clashing.
Would appreciate any feedback :smile:

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I do not. Have you mentioned this to your SA? If your local to your store go in and have them look it over. Things can loosen over time and you don't want to risk something happening to it.
 
Hi all,
I was wondering if I could get some information on the Perlee Clover bracelet.
Do you hear a clicking sound when the bracelet is closed and locked? I feel that I can still shift the bracelet at the closure and it makes a tiny clicking sound because of the metals clashing.
Would appreciate any feedback :smile:

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All of my Perlee bracelets click. Other than the WG Clover getting the safety clasp stuck, I've not had any issues.

I am not in a situation to model…give me 4 months :smile:, but here is a filtered photo vs real shade.

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Absolutely STUNNING! I've been looking for this collection a couple of years and even got a SO turned down 2 years ago. I have more spend now and have reached out to my SA again about making something in it. I finally found this exact piece and it will be here Wednesday. Have you had any problems or wear from the porcelain?
 
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Ladies, I had this disney ring ad show up in my IG feed and my brain turned it into clovers instead of mickeys.

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Has VCA ever done a ring like that? Adjoining or slightly overlapping small clovers in onyx or MOP? I wish I had real photoshop skills to make a proper mock-up of what's in my head.. I couldn't get the overlap right...but now I kind of want one like it in onyx.

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Ladies, I had this disney ring ad show up in my IG feed and my brain turned it into clovers instead of mickeys.

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Has VCA ever done a ring like that? Adjoining or slightly overlapping small clovers in onyx or MOP? I wish I had real photoshop skills to make a proper mock-up of what's in my head.. I couldn't get the overlap right...but now I kind of want one like it in onyx.

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I totally see what you mean, it would be so adorable if they did!! Not sure how they would be able to get all the stones to curve around the finger accordingly though. Perhaps only possible with different colored sevres porcelain.
 
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