I wouldn't worry about it too much - I'm a very frequent hand washer and still wear my MOP bracelet. Just make sure it's dry asap and you should be fine
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I wouldn't worry about it too much - I'm a very frequent hand washer and still wear my MOP bracelet. Just make sure it's dry asap and you should be fine
Ladies with the lucky animals clips, how do you wear yours? I went to look at the panda clip yesterday and it's seriously the most adorable thing ever 
I want to get a 20 motif eventually, but it's unlikely to be in white gold - would the wg panda look odd hanging from a yg or pg 20? Or should I get a plain wg chain just for him?
This is the panda from yesterday! As adorable as he is, I didn't get him as his body is very pink, whereas I wanted the MOP to be as white as possible. My SA said he can request a transfer from the other boutiques but would need a few days' notice, so fingers crossed in a couple of weeks, I'll be bringing the panda home!
I also had another look at carnelian bracelets and my SA brought out 5 of the reddest. One bracelet was actually VERY close to what I'm looking for, but it was sliiightly too dark. So the search continues!
I want to get a 20 motif eventually, but it's unlikely to be in white gold - would the wg panda look odd hanging from a yg or pg 20? Or should I get a plain wg chain just for him?This is the panda from yesterday! As adorable as he is, I didn't get him as his body is very pink, whereas I wanted the MOP to be as white as possible. My SA said he can request a transfer from the other boutiques but would need a few days' notice, so fingers crossed in a couple of weeks, I'll be bringing the panda home!
I also had another look at carnelian bracelets and my SA brought out 5 of the reddest. One bracelet was actually VERY close to what I'm looking for, but it was sliiightly too dark. So the search continues!
Hi! I have the panda clip, and I wear it with a WG MOP 20. I do not like think it will look good hanging on a YG 20. The panda is purely black and white, not even a trace of anything with a yellow tint that might work with a YG chain.Ladies with the lucky animals clips, how do you wear yours? I went to look at the panda clip yesterday and it's seriously the most adorable thing ever
This is the panda from yesterday! As adorable as he is, I didn't get him as his body is very pink, whereas I wanted the MOP to be as white as possible. My SA said he can request a transfer from the other boutiques but would need a few days' notice, so fingers crossed in a couple of weeks, I'll be bringing the panda home!
I also had another look at carnelian bracelets and my SA brought out 5 of the reddest. One bracelet was actually VERY close to what I'm looking for, but it was sliiightly too dark. So the search continues!
You could wear it with the WG Trace chain which comes short and long.
I agree on the Carnelian; it's too dark. Maybe ask the SA to get reddish-orange based ones. Carnelian will turn darker on the skin (since you are getting a bracelet) and also in indoor lighting. This means when you hold it up in the air (as everyone seems to incorrectly do to look at the true hue)... the shade you see is not real life, and it will be the lightest. This is because carnelian is translucent, meaning light will pass through it.
But... bracelets are always laying on your skin, a solid surface, a beige/tan skin color. This will change the color of the carnelian as well as indoor evening light. It will go darker. If you were buying a 20, it would be different, and a dark carnelian would pop against a white blouse. I hope that makes sense.
I hope you get the panda. He is super super super cute! If you decide to get a WG MOP 20, you could wear him at the bottom of the 20 or on the side. I wear mine on the side, so it looks like he's hanging off the chain.
There is also a whole thread on Lucky Animal clips, so you may want to search on that one. If you like carnelian and YG, I like the Chicken (officially known as the Rooster)! I think the Chicken is super cool! Who wears a Chicken on their neck?! It's such a fun look.
Good luck!
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Thank you BigAkoya! I always learn something from your posts
I will definitely check out the trace chains when I next visit! Is that the same chain as the magic pendants?It looks like I may have to re-evaluate the panda + 20 combination... My original 20 motif wishlist consisted of carnelian, MOP and blue agate, but carnelian is out as all of the 20s are very brown looking, MOP I'd like in yellow gold (I think) and blue agate will take a very long time to find as the shades seem inconsistent. But if none of them goes with the panda, I might have to consider MOP + wg as I really really love the look of the panda clinging on to one side.
I actually did ask about orange red carnelian, but my SA said they were all very very orange and opaque looking. By now I've seen so many carnelian bracelets that if/when the right one appears, I think it'll probably be an "aha" moment and I'll know instantly. One of the bracelet from yesterday was close but not quite. I think my issue with carnelian is that there's a very narrow shade range that I like, so it'll probably be a quite while before I find it.
There are actually a few other lucky animals on my wishlist, but definitely the panda first (he's by far my favourite)! The chicken is indeed very cool too
The 20-motif RG, diamond, GMOP just went on my radar. I own a RG Perlee Clover and the matching hoops. So, I believe it will make a beautiful set. I would probably get the Cosmos PG/MOP ring too.
The GMOP motifs in the store I tried on in the store were more brownish in cast than I would prefer — because I already own a Letterwood RG 20-motif. I want to see other color variations before I pick one. I think I would like one grayer/cooler in cast.
I was originally going to get a Chalcedony 20-motif and the Owl pin As my next VCA purchases. I already own 20s in WG MOP and WG Onyx. I once had the Chalcedony 20, but re-homed it and regretted selling it. I will purchase these, later.
The point of my rambling post is that my jewelry fund will soon be big enough to make this big purchase. So I might as well do the big purchase sooner, yes/no?
Can I see modeling pics of the PG GMOP 20s?
If you own it, is it worth the $$$. Do you love it? Or is there something better to get for the money. ($72K plus tax)
The GMOP motifs in the store I tried on in the store were more brownish in cast than I would prefer — because I already own a Letterwood RG 20-motif. I want to see other color variations before I pick one. I think I would like one grayer/cooler in cast.
I was originally going to get a Chalcedony 20-motif and the Owl pin As my next VCA purchases. I already own 20s in WG MOP and WG Onyx. I once had the Chalcedony 20, but re-homed it and regretted selling it. I will purchase these, later.
The point of my rambling post is that my jewelry fund will soon be big enough to make this big purchase. So I might as well do the big purchase sooner, yes/no?
Can I see modeling pics of the PG GMOP 20s?
If you own it, is it worth the $$$. Do you love it? Or is there something better to get for the money. ($72K plus tax)
I dont personally own the 20 motif but I own the bracelet. It’s honestly one of the prettiest combos I think VCA makes. I think it would go with many outfits especially with your current RG collection.
I want to SO a 10 motif of that combination at some point…
Definitely try and see multiple options with that necklace as they look totally different with the MOP hues as you know. One will speak to you!
I can post a pic of the bracelet if you would like…
This is the advice I give friends who choose to shop outside of the retail experience. I prefer the boutique as I don’t want to take the risk of encountering a super fake.
I completely agree, in my short time shopping with VCA this is the most gorgeous combo. I would absolutely purchase the necklace! I tried on the bracelet recently and it was amazing. A little more on the brownish side than the GMOP pendant I went home with.
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You know that panda will match the onyx wg pave tooThank you BigAkoya! I always learn something from your posts
It looks like I may have to re-evaluate the panda + 20 combination... My original 20 motif wishlist consisted of carnelian, MOP and blue agate, but carnelian is out as all of the 20s are very brown looking, MOP I'd like in yellow gold (I think) and blue agate will take a very long time to find as the shades seem inconsistent. But if none of them goes with the panda, I might have to consider MOP + wg as I really really love the look of the panda clinging on to one side.
I actually did ask about orange red carnelian, but my SA said they were all very very orange and opaque looking. By now I've seen so many carnelian bracelets that if/when the right one appears, I think it'll probably be an "aha" moment and I'll know instantly. One of the bracelet from yesterday was close but not quite. I think my issue with carnelian is that there's a very narrow shade range that I like, so it'll probably be a quite while before I find it.
There are actually a few other lucky animals on my wishlist, but definitely the panda first (he's by far my favourite)! The chicken is indeed very cool too
Hi! I don't have this piece, so my vote doesn't really count if you are only looking for input from owners.
However, here are my thoughts for what it's worth...
I do realize everything is 100% preference, and there are owners who have already responded saying this love this combo.
For me, I vote no. Here is why...
I think the RG GMOP pave 20 is pretty, but as a statement necklace, it's very subtle and neither here nor there.
The alternating 20 to me does not have the pop of 20 of the same colored stones such as MOP or onyx. You can't miss those "20 stone" necklaces; they pop without diamonds. Diamonds are not the end all to me, and for Alhambra, I think the beauty of Alhambra is the continuous stones that make a statement.
I know the alternating 20 has "diamonds," but they are so tiny, you can barely see them. You mostly see metal.
I tried on the WG onyx pave 20 as I thought I might get an alternating onyx pave set. I was disappointed and passed. It neither popped like a 20 onyx, nor did it have enough bling to sparkle like a diamond necklace. The diamonds were so tiny, the eye has to stare to even notice "oh, there are tiny diamonds."
However, my biggest disappointment was the "air space" created by the pave motifs. Those motifs seems to be secondary against the bold pop of the stones, so to me, and alternating looks like a metal chain necklace with a few motifs sprinkled.
I also think for the RG GMOP, the stones will have a orangey-brown undertone. This is because VCA wants to complement the RG metal which has a bit of orange-tint due to the copper in the RG. As you know, VCA varies their choice of MOP based on the metal. For YG, VCA uses MOP with a more pinky undertone, but for WG, VCA uses MOP with a cool silver undertone. The two MOP necklaces look completely different as will the RG MOP.
That said, I think the RG GMOP 20 worn with your RG Clover set will not pop enough. The necklace recesses to me, and I think it will look really mellow and subdued. It is a lot of metal, especially when worn with the Clover hoop earrings. However, that may be the look you want, and if yes, I think you will get that.
What to get then for a necklace?
You mentioned you will most likely get the Cosmos PG MOP ring (I assume it's the BTF ring). I think Cosmos with PG MOP is stunning. I've seen the earrings, and the combo is gorgeous! The MOP is pinkish as well; it is not cool gray like WG MOP. The MOP just pops and comes to life, much more so than my WG MOP.
If you are going to get the Cosmos RG MOP BTF ring, I would get a RG MOP 20. You would have to SO it, but I think it would be worth it to match the Cosmos RG MOP ring.
So... imagine now your set... Cosmos RG MOP ring (pop!) and RG MOP 20 (more pop)... two bright pieces. This would be next to your Clover bracelet and Clover earrings, which are two softer metal pieces with a touch of sparkle. I think this set will come alive much more so than a RG GMOP 20. Plus, I am not a fan of wearing the Cosmos RG MOP ring, the VA RG GMOP 20, and RG metal Clover pieces. That's three themes going on, and I think the MOPs tie the Cosmos and 20 together better. That's just me of course.
You might be poo-pooing this RG MOP 20 idea as you already have a WG MOP 20. I don't think it's repetitive. I have multiple pearl necklaces, and I wear them singly or layer them. You could do the same with two MOP necklaces, wear both and your theme is MOP with mixed metals. I think that would be a cool look. Side note... I have actually thought about getting a second WG MOP 20 to layer as I think it will be a very chic look.
If not, and you're still poo-pooing the RG MOP 20 idea...
Another option if you like alternating is to get the RG MOP and guilloche alternating. I think the launch is for Korea only, but it will eventually come to the US. Or, since you are such a VVIP, your SA may be able to get one for you from Korea when it launches.
The shiny metal in the guilloche will be a nice complement to the bezel edge of the Cosmos ring which is also shiny.
By the way, for the Cosmos BTF ring, I looked at the oynx diamond version, and I did not like the bezel in WG against the onyx. However, I saw the RG MOP version, and the RG bezel is stunning against the MOP. Your ring will be gorgeous.
For me, I would stay with a RG MOP theme, especially to match your ring. It also brightens up your set in my opinion.
Just my two cents for what it's worth. Good luck to you and congrats on your future pieces!
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Agree that it’s very subtle. A friend tried on the RG GMOP pave bracelet. Standing alone, we both felt like it was one of the prettiest combos ever. (I still think it’s a stunning combo in theory). Worn on her light olive skin, it faded and didn’t pop.
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I unfortunately have to agree. I ended up returning the RG alternating GMOP/pave bracelet - it was absolutely stunning in the store, but the more I stared at it on my wrist at home, the more I realized that it didn’t pop on me. That said, jewelry presents so differently on each individual - I saw a photo on here from a few days ago (@eternallove4bag, was that you?) where they wore this bracelet with an extender as a necklace, and it looked incredible
@BigAkoya’s alternating guilloche idea is brilliant
I think the RG MOP guilloche alternating is going to be a stunning piece for those who like alternating Alhambra.I unfortunately have to agree. I ended up returning the RG alternating GMOP/pave bracelet - it was absolutely stunning in the store, but the more I stared at it on my wrist at home, the more I realized that it didn’t pop on me. That said, jewelry presents so differently on each individual - I saw a photo on here from a few days ago (@eternallove4bag, was that you?) where they wore this bracelet with an extender as a necklace, and it looked incredible
@BigAkoya’s alternating guilloche idea is brilliant
To me, YG guilloche can sometimes come across too "shiny metal"... think 80s bold YG metal chain look aka Cuban / rope chains... although the 80s look is coming back for Gen Zs. And WG guilloche is too cold, like a silver or steel metal necklace.
I think RG guilloche has more a softness to it (vs YG or WG), and combined with MOP it will be stunning. I also think VCA will use a MOP with a pinkish-peach overtone which will be stunning.
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@etoupebirkin I have yet to try on the RG 20 motif counterpart but I absolutely love my GMOP pavè alternating bracelet. It’s the bracelet I baby the most, and whenever I wear it I always admire the color shift iridescence on the GMOP especially during daytime. However I do agree with what others have said in that it’s subtle, which is something I personally love; it’s a more understated elegant romantic feel and mostly for myself to admire with the color shift based on lighting. If you enjoy that kind of look I think you would also enjoy wearing the 20 GMOP pave alternating.