VCA ~ Van Cleef Arpels Discussion thread!

[BigAkoya]

I hope this works out for you!!!

Thank you! I hope so too.
I went to her IG and did a google translate of her text, from Japanese to English.

The translation is not perfect, but she says she saw the lapis ring at the Spring exhibition. She continues saying it's discontinued, that she searched on HP (which I interpret to be Heritage Pieces), and it was not there. She says it was released Nov 2020, but did not show up until Dec 2021.

Maybe this is the last piece remaining in Japan, but I'll take it! I would think VCA can resize it.

It's crazy actually how VCA launched Hellebore in Nov 2020, and it's already discontinued it. My guess is it was not a popular collection, or perhaps it was meant as a one time winter release of limited pieces

I can't wait to hear from my SA. Where is he anyway? It's been over 30 minutes!
I'll forgive him since it's Sunday.

UPDATE: I translated it again, and she then says "the person said it was out of order" which I translate to not being able to order
Well, there is one in the photo, assuming it's a recent photo! Not looking as great though. Bummer.

 

[Rhl2987]

Thank you! I hope so too.
I went to her IG and did a google translate of her text, from Japanese to English.

The translation is not perfect, but she says she saw the lapis ring at the Spring exhibition. She continues saying it's discontinued, that she searched on HP (which I interpret to be Heritage Pieces), and it was not there. She says it was released Nov 2020, but did not show up until Dec 2021.

Maybe this is the last piece remaining in Japan, but I'll take it! I would think VCA can resize it.

It's crazy actually how VCA launched Hellebore in Nov 2020, and it's already discontinued it. My guess is it was not a popular collection, or perhaps it was meant as a one time winter release of limited pieces

I can't wait to hear from my SA. Where is he anyway? It's been over 30 minutes!
I'll forgive him since it's Sunday.

I can’t wait to hear how this ends up! Good luck!! It seems meant to be.

 

[saligator]

Thanks so much!! I am hoping to get this to stack as well.

I figured stock is still low. I haven't shopped there in over a year so I was hoping things would improve.

I'll contact my SA soon and check with them.

Thanks again!

It might depend on where you are in the world, too. I might have spoke too soon not knowing where you are!

 

[saligator]

I have a little extra lolly after purchasing the shorter Magic instead of the longer one.

I'm thinking about a Pure pendant OR the astrology medal with the shorter chain.

Does anyone have an opinion on these two pieces?

 

[saligator]

I have a little extra lolly after purchasing the shorter Magic instead of the longer one.

I'm thinking about a Pure pendant OR the astrology medal with the shorter chain.

Does anyone have an opinion on these two pieces?

I know they are very different.

The pros for the Pure:

Modern, clean lines, a good "opposite" piece to the Mop WG Magic.

Can be dressy or casual.

Nice chain, too.

I like the shape.

cons for the Pro:

Not sure the size. It seems like it might be sort of small?

Not sure if it will go with VCA bracelets


Pros for the Astrologie Gold medal:

Good size

Good price

I like the image for my sign

Flexible - can wear on other chains

Cons:

Looks like it has been under the sea in a pirate chest, which isn't my usual vibe

The hole sort of pokes through part of the image

I tend to be a quatrefoil fan and this isn't one.



Lol. I guess I answered my own question!

 

[kadmia]

May I ask our lovely VCA experts about these necklaces posted below? (I apologize if they've been discussed before!) I've only ever seen them twice, and on reputable sites so I believe they're authentic older pieces but maybe someone more familiar with VCA history can fill me in? They look to be almost as long as a typical 20 motif, but with only 10 larger (Magic sized?) and more spaced out motifs. Anyone know what this beautiful style is called so I can start to obsess I mean look for it? The lapis version is breathtaking! Thank you in advance!!

 

[EpiFanatic]

May I ask our lovely VCA experts about these necklaces posted below? (I apologize if they've been discussed before!) I've only ever seen them twice, and on reputable sites so I believe they're authentic older pieces but maybe someone more familiar with VCA history can fill me in? They look to be almost as long as a typical 20 motif, but with only 10 larger (Magic sized?) and more spaced out motifs. Anyone know what this beautiful style is called so I can start to obsess I mean look for it? The lapis version is breathtaking! Thank you in advance!!

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Wow, I've never seen these before. Can't wait to learn what the VCA vets know.

 

[kadmia]

Wow, I've never seen these before. Can't wait to learn what the VCA vets know.

Me too!! I wonder if they could be special ordered these days? Or only found as vintage releases?

 

[BigAkoya]

I know they are very different.

The pros for the Pure:

Modern, clean lines, a good "opposite" piece to the Mop WG Magic.

Can be dressy or casual.

Nice chain, too.

I like the shape.

cons for the Pro:

Not sure the size. It seems like it might be sort of small?

Not sure if it will go with VCA bracelets


Pros for the Astrologie Gold medal:

Good size

Good price

I like the image for my sign

Flexible - can wear on other chains

Cons:

Looks like it has been under the sea in a pirate chest, which isn't my usual vibe

The hole sort of pokes through part of the image

I tend to be a quatrefoil fan and this isn't one.



Lol. I guess I answered my own question!

Hi! My gut says you don't really love either of them and are looking to purchase because you want to spend your leftover money. That may not be the case, but it seems your choices are based on price point and not love of the piece. It's just a guess of course based on your posts.
For me, this stuff is expensive, and I need to love love love something. If you don't really love either piece, you will most likely not wear it often. Then, it's actually money down the drain.

Pure to me is a completely differently look than Vintage VCA, so you really have to love the Pure design. Ask yourself if that same Pure item was available in Vintage at the same price, would you still choose Pure? If not, pass.

I personally would not mix Pure with Vintage. Pure is a contemporary design, and the motif is set in a bezel which gives it a more flat shiny metal look with the motif flush against the metal. Vintage has beaded milgrain edges, and the motif is set with four prongs, which gives is a more textured look (and feel).

If you have to buy something VCA and are thinking the Pure size pendant, for me... I would just get a VA pendant in a stone I love. The price is roughly the same. Or, if you do not already have MOP earrings, I would get MOP earrings to go with your MOP pendant.

If there is nothing VCA you love in that price point, you can always take the leftover cash and buy something you love that is not VCA. My thought being... I would not buy something unless I really really love it.

Just my two cents for another point of view. Hope this helps you decide.

 

[couturequeen]

Ladies. Hello. It has been a while for me. I have a dilemma. I want to get a pair of magic onyx earclips. My store told me there is a waiting list and will take a while. Not sure how long but said many months.
Now they are getting a pair of large frivole clips in. It is a wishlist item. But I own a few frivole earrings already and only one Alhambra.

These are what I own:
WG vintage pave
Mini WG frivole
YG small frivole
YG cluster frivole
WG pave small lotus

Should I wait for the magic onyx or go for the large frivole? Was told these would be the first pair they are getting in 3 years.

Frivole fan here. I’d get onyx first to mix it up.

 

[saligator]

Hi! My gut says you don't really love either of them and are looking to purchase because you want to spend your leftover money. That may not be the case, but it seems your choices are based on price point and not love of the piece. It's just a guess of course based on your posts.
For me, this stuff is expensive, and I need to love love love something. If you don't really love either piece, you will most likely not wear it often. Then, it's actually money down the drain.

Pure to me is a completely differently look than Vintage VCA, so you really have to love the Pure design. Ask yourself if that same Pure item was available in Vintage at the same price, would you still choose Pure? If not, pass.

I personally would not mix Pure with Vintage. Pure is a contemporary design, and the motif is set in a bezel which gives it a more flat shiny metal look with the motif flush against the metal. Vintage has beaded milgrain edges, and the motif is set with four prongs, which gives is a more textured look (and feel).

If you have to buy something VCA and are thinking the Pure size pendant, for me... I would just get a VA pendant in a stone I love. The price is roughly the same. Or, if you do not already have MOP earrings, I would get MOP earrings to go with your MOP pendant.

If there is nothing VCA you love in that price point, you can always take the leftover cash and buy something you love that is not VCA. My thought being... I would not buy something unless I really really love it.

Just my two cents for another point of view. Hope this helps you decide.

Well you're wrong about the leftover money speculation.

My goal originally was a YG piece and I fell hard for the WG Magic unexpectedly. I still seek a YG casual piece.

 

[nicole0612]

Well you're wrong about the leftover money speculation.

My goal originally was a YG piece and I fell hard for the WG Magic unexpectedly. I still seek a YG casual piece. I have my reasons.

I did find uour response rather sharp and unsupportive, though.

Sorry, I think bigakoya meant well. I misread your post also and thought you were not really in love with either item. From reading your posts again, if these are your two favorite YG casual options, I would get the pure, because it sounds like you realized that the Astrologie does not really suit your preferences.

 

[saligator]

Sorry, I think bigakoya meant well. I misread your post also and thought you were not really in love with either item. From reading your posts again, if these are your two favorite YG casual options, I would get the pure, because it sounds like you realized that the Astrologie does not really suit your preferences.

I think they did too, but in a harder to interpret way. I changed my post to reflect that.

 

[pearlgirl55]

Does anyone know if VCA is going to get items in the stores to even look at? I was in NYC flagship, not one person shopping. SAs know nothing, all talking to themselves. People cancelling orders because they say it takes too long and not one piece to show you.
No one answers the phone. The SAs don't have a business card or phone number to give you. Don't have an email. VCA is a total disaster. I do not believe they are doing well at all.

 

[lynne_ross]

Does anyone know if VCA is going to get items in the stores to even look at? I was in NYC flagship, not one person shopping. SAs know nothing, all talking to themselves. People cancelling orders because they say it takes too long and not one piece to show you.
No one answers the phone. The SAs don't have a business card or phone number to give you. Don't have an email. VCA is a total disaster. I do not believe they are doing well at all.

Maybe it is unique to NYC or USA but the experience in Asia and Europe has been nothing like that, even lately. SAs are always willing to provide WhatsApp # for me to communicate with them and are very responsive. There is a global supply issue due to covid. But it appears to be improving, at least where I shop. I would try another store if that’s your experience.