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I keep coming back to this combination! It is so beautiful !

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@oranGetRee, I think the VCA watches are beautiful, but still jewelry. DH is partial to ALange (he has three and has ordered a fourth) and I am considering one of them. They’re a very different aesthetic, and I think there is certainly room in a collection for both. This is the one I am considering (I have not purchased yet).

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That's very beautiful. What's not to like?
 
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On Frivole, I love love love Frivole. It is my favorite VCA collection. However, I do not think Frivole matches with Alhambra. They are two completely different looks; one is a flower and the other a quatrefoil. Yes, people wear the two together, probably because it's "VCA." However, take out the VCA brand. Pretend you're at Macy's or any dept store. You are looking at their jewelry cases... there is the case with a flower collection and another case with an quatrefoil collection. If these were two no name pieces, think if you would really pair them together and if you would like that look. I've tried pairing it together, and it just feels off to me. Yes, it's "VCA" but to me, the two designs do not complement each other. It's all preference of course, and jewelry is 100% personal tastes.
If you love Frivole and Alhambra together, go for it. All VCA pieces are gorgeous.

I have to agree with you on this. The only reason why I wear my 2021 HP with the PG Frivole is because the pink sapphire ties all the pieces together (and I probably wouldn’t wear just the pendant with the earrings; I layer the two pendants).

@cafecreme15 I think the guilloche earrings is probably the best answer *specifically* with regards to the necklace, if you want a set. However, my only thought is that the pave is like a pair of studs - not a perfect match, but will probably go with all of your YG pieces. However However (lol), the guilloche is also like a pair of studs, just not sparkly...and now I realize I’ve gotten to the point where I’m not helping.

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Here I am not more than 3 days after picking up my beloved 10 motif guilloche and I am already contemplating what’s next! I definitely want to do earrings. I have 3 necklaces (the 10 motif, a mini frivole pendant and a holiday pendant) and a 5 motif YG WMOP bracelet. My SA and I were discussing what earrings should be up first. I’ve been wanting a dangly earring for a while (thinking the YG WMOP 2 motif), but my SA was recommending the YG pave VA studs. We also talked briefly about the mini frivole studs but I have a few pairs of smaller YG studs already (not VCA) so those would not be my first choice. Welcome your thoughts!
@cafecreme15 I agree with your SA. The pave YG VA would go so beautifully with your guilloche 10 motif or even worn solo. You can always tie the pave YG VA earrings and the guilloche 10 motif with the alternating pave and guilloche 5 motif in YG! How stunning would the 3 piece set look? At least they do in my imagination :loveeyes:
 
I have to agree with you on this. The only reason why I wear my 2021 HP with the PG Frivole is because the pink sapphire ties all the pieces together (and I probably wouldn’t wear just the pendant with the earrings; I layer the two pendants).

@cafecreme15 I think the guilloche earrings is probably the best answer *specifically* with regards to the necklace, if you want a set. However, my only thought is that the pave is like a pair of studs - not a perfect match, but will probably go with all of your YG pieces. However However (lol), the guilloche is also like a pair of studs, just not sparkly...and now I realize I’ve gotten to the point where I’m not helping.

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I think this is a matter of personal preference. I have a girlfriend who pairs her small frivole with her Alhambra as they're approximately the same diameter. She also pairs her white MOP with white MOP rose de noel earrings. They look beautiful together (by the way, she has the matching alhambra earrings as well, so she has the option to wear the complete set if she wants).

Sometimes I don't want to be all-Alhambraed-out and will mix and match, but like @BigAkoya and @Notorious Pink, my preference is to keep it within the Alhambra theme.
 
Here I am not more than 3 days after picking up my beloved 10 motif guilloche and I am already contemplating what’s next! I definitely want to do earrings. I have 3 necklaces (the 10 motif, a mini frivole pendant and a holiday pendant) and a 5 motif YG WMOP bracelet. My SA and I were discussing what earrings should be up first. I’ve been wanting a dangly earring for a while (thinking the YG WMOP 2 motif), but my SA was recommending the YG pave VA studs. We also talked briefly about the mini frivole studs but I have a few pairs of smaller YG studs already (not VCA) so those would not be my first choice. Welcome your thoughts!
The pave vintage YG studs would be a super versatile piece since it would go with all your other YG pieces. Would you feel comfortable wearing that with your guilloche? I would even consider guilloche studs which would go with everything too. One thing I did notice about myself is that I’m not comfortable wearing my WG pave studs with my chalcedony 10 motif. I prefer my WG Frivole with it. Strangely I feel like if I wear earrings and 10 motif they need to match or completely not match, except with the color of the gold tying it together. Almost match throws me off. Everyone is different. I hope you have a chance to try them on first.
 
I have to agree with you on this. The only reason why I wear my 2021 HP with the PG Frivole is because the pink sapphire ties all the pieces together (and I probably wouldn’t wear just the pendant with the earrings; I layer the two pendants).

@cafecreme15 I think the guilloche earrings is probably the best answer *specifically* with regards to the necklace, if you want a set. However, my only thought is that the pave is like a pair of studs - not a perfect match, but will probably go with all of your YG pieces. However However (lol), the guilloche is also like a pair of studs, just not sparkly...and now I realize I’ve gotten to the point where I’m not helping.

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@cafecreme15 I agree with your SA. The pave YG VA would go so beautifully with your guilloche 10 motif or even worn solo. You can always tie the pave YG VA earrings and the guilloche 10 motif with the alternating pave and guilloche 5 motif in YG! How stunning would the 3 piece set look? At least they do in my imagination :loveeyes:
The pave vintage YG studs would be a super versatile piece since it would go with all your other YG pieces. Would you feel comfortable wearing that with your guilloche? I would even consider guilloche studs which would go with everything too. One thing I did notice about myself is that I’m not comfortable wearing my WG pave studs with my chalcedony 10 motif. I prefer my WG Frivole with it. Strangely I feel like if I wear earrings and 10 motif they need to match or completely not match, except with the color of the gold tying it together. Almost match throws me off. Everyone is different. I hope you have a chance to try them on first.
Thanks everybody!! I haven’t really been considering set building because I don’t think sets are something I would wear at this point in my life. I guess it feels like “too much” right now if that makes sense (still in my late 20s)? Right now I would probably not wear Alhambra earrings with the necklace. I would with one of my pendants but not the 10 motif. But since these are pieces I will have for decades maybe I need to factor in what I might want in the future? GAH!! This is so hard. I do have some time to think about it so I’ll want to make sure to try on the different contenders. The good news is I don’t think there is any wrong answer here!
 
Thanks everybody!! I haven’t really been considering set building because I don’t think sets are something I would wear at this point in my life. I guess it feels like “too much” right now if that makes sense (still in my late 20s)? Right now I would probably not wear Alhambra earrings with the necklace. I would with one of my pendants but not the 10 motif. But since these are pieces I will have for decades maybe I need to factor in what I might want in the future? GAH!! This is so hard. I do have some time to think about it so I’ll want to make sure to try on the different contenders. The good news is I don’t think there is any wrong answer here!
100% agree with you. You can’t go wrong with any of your choices and girl, you are young so can have fun with experimentation too. :heart:
 
Thanks everybody!! I haven’t really been considering set building because I don’t think sets are something I would wear at this point in my life. I guess it feels like “too much” right now if that makes sense (still in my late 20s)? Right now I would probably not wear Alhambra earrings with the necklace. I would with one of my pendants but not the 10 motif. But since these are pieces I will have for decades maybe I need to factor in what I might want in the future? GAH!! This is so hard. I do have some time to think about it so I’ll want to make sure to try on the different contenders. The good news is I don’t think there is any wrong answer here!
That’s true. You might get a piece that may not be right for right now but would work later.
 
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Thanks everybody!! I haven’t really been considering set building because I don’t think sets are something I would wear at this point in my life. I guess it feels like “too much” right now if that makes sense (still in my late 20s)? Right now I would probably not wear Alhambra earrings with the necklace. I would with one of my pendants but not the 10 motif. But since these are pieces I will have for decades maybe I need to factor in what I might want in the future? GAH!! This is so hard. I do have some time to think about it so I’ll want to make sure to try on the different contenders. The good news is I don’t think there is any wrong answer here!
I would just buy whatever piece you love the most next and not worry about building sets if it is not you. Most people do not wear sets. I love sets on others but it is not me and I am no longer 20/30s :( so doubt it will ever be me.
Try the 2 motif earrings. From your posts I think they would go well with your clothing and give you a different look from pendants and necklace. I have the lucky ones and they go beautifully with cream sweaters and summer dresses.
 
Hello! Heading to NYC next weekend and excited to pick up my first VCA piece! My hearts set on guilloche 5 motif bracelet, but when I called customer service they couldn’t verify if the NYC flagship had any in stock. Is it really that hard to track down?

I just purchased a love bracelet and a JUC, and was really looking forward to mixing and matching!
 
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Hello! Heading to NYC next weekend and excited to pick up my first VCA piece! My hearts set on guilloche 5 motif bracelet, but when I called customer service they couldn’t verify if the NYC flagship had any in stock. Is it really that hard to track down?

I just purchased a love bracelet and a JUC, and was really looking forward to mixing and matching!
Hi! First, congrats on your soon to be first VCA piece!
Inventory is super low, so you most likely will not be able to just pop in and get your guilloche 5 motif. This is a high demand piece.

I would suggest you contact NYC, talk to a real SA (not customer service), and tell the SA you want to "buy" a 5 motif guilloche. Then state you also happen to be coming in to the city. If there is one in stock, you will probably be asked to put down a deposit to lock in. If there is not one in stock, the SA can search and see if one can be brought in. If you have to order, tell the SA you will come in and you want to order one and ask if that is possible. If you are new, some SAs may tell you no pre-order as they may not want to deal a new client, so be clear on this point.

The key here is you want to send the message to the SA you are buying, not just inquiring or browsing. This is a subtle but very important message. These are sales people, and their job is to make a sale. They want to spend their time with a real buyer and not waste an hour showing pieces only to end up with no sale. This is especially true if you are new client, and the SA does not yet know you.

SAs get so many inquiries and they are super busy. Some have to say "not available" to generic inquiries because they are swamped and cannot even fulfill their existing client's request. Selling in stock items is different, as the sale is a sure thing. It's the orders where SAs hesitate to accept.

Also, if you are new to VCA and there is no guilloche, I would suggest you try on any bracelet for the look. Then, try on the sizer bracelets to see if you need adjustments. You can then just order it, get it resized, and have it shipped to you.

I do not live near a VCA, so I get stuff shipped to me. It's very easy. I do make trips to the boutique to try on for sizing, so take advantage of the time you are there for "sizing."

A final thought...
If this is your first visit, go upstairs and browse around. Some SAs are better than others and will take the time to show you around the floors to see the pieces and collections. Other SAs just want to take your order and move on to the next transaction. To me, if you are new and in NYC (57th), you need to ask for what you want. SAs get so much tourist business in NYC, most SAs do not need to work for their sale and take time to show you other pieces, especially if they do not know you (e.g. you could be a one time buyer).

Be sure to ask to see other pieces. Walk around, go upstairs... make the best use of your time while you are there. Even when you are finished with the SA, you do not need to leave the boutique. Walk around on your own. I do this all the time. I love to see jewelry, especially the detail of high jewelry pieces (the SA may ask if you want to try them on too :nuts: :heart: ). When I am there and have finished shopping, I thank the SA (hint: SA, you can leave me now), and I tell him I want walk around one last time and look at the high jewelry on display just to stare at it and absorb it in. He fully understands, says goodbye and leaves me alone. My point here is to enjoy the beauty of the moment in your surrounding, even if you do not end up purchasing a piece. No need to rush out and leave so quickly.

Hope this was helpful. Good luck to you! Congrats again your first VCA piece!
 
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Hello! Heading to NYC next weekend and excited to pick up my first VCA piece! My hearts set on guilloche 5 motif bracelet, but when I called customer service they couldn’t verify if the NYC flagship had any in stock. Is it really that hard to track down?

I just purchased a love bracelet and a JUC, and was really looking forward to mixing and matching!
My sa at Hudson yards had the guilloche
 
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