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For those who stack a cartier love bracelet with a VCA alhambra bracelet, what length should I go for with VCA if I want to stack them together?

I'm taking a break from stacks, but I sometimes wear a VCA with a love. My VCAs are standard length and my love is a ridiculously oversized 19 so I can slide it off without unscrewing. They do slide around and over/under each other, but I like that more relaxed feeling. My love is out of rotation, but is pretty scratched up as at one point I think I wore it for about three years straight. I haven't noticed any damage to my 5 motifs from the love but don't have a guilloche and would not wear it with my giant love if I did. I think this is another one of those go in person if you can situations
 
Mine's a size 15 love, and my wrist is 13.5 inches. I wanted a tighter fit so I was thinking 15cm. Does that sound reasonable? It's a little hard to tell considering you can never try it on with it already resized :smile:

In the boutique they actually do have sizer bracelets in all the most common sizes for you to try on so you can see which length you like best. 15 cm comes out to about 6 inches, to me that sounds a little tight. Maybe try 6.25-6.5”? I feel like if the Alhambra bracelet is sized tight it will feel like you are “stretching” the links if you were to exert your forearms or add pressure at all, say if you’re carrying a child, carrying groceries, working out, etc. If you can get to the boutique they will measure your wrist and give you the sizer bracelets to try on. I would definitely do that if you can (: also there is a sizing thread in here somewhere I’ll have to find it for you so you can read what other people have sized their’s to in comparison to their wrist size.

here’s the link to that thread! This will be very helpful for you (:

 
One thing I will say is that VCA watches that are not apart of the poetic complications line definitely do resell for a discount, but that is not necessarily the case for poetic complications watches or high jewelry watches. Part of this has to do with a quartz vs. mechanical mechanism; mechanical mechanisms are generally favored in the watchmaking world. For example, for the watch I bought, only about 500 have been made over the 12-13 years since it’s release. For the more expensive ones in the PC line, my guess is it is even smaller. Usually they resale for equal to what you paid for or even more depending on if the watch is still available. It also depends on price increases as PC watches tend to get a 5-8% price increase every year. If you keep it for at least 5-10 years in good condition I think it would be unusual to lose money on it (not including insurance fees if you do that). I looked predominantly at Sotheby’s/Christie’s for datapoints on this and I will say as a whole not many VCA PC watches have been sold on sites that you can see on the internet, and almost no high jewelry ones.

Good to learn this. Those PC watches are amazing! :heart:
 
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Vintage size, how long do made to orders take/will I need to befriend a SA to get one or can it be my first purchase with them?
Thank you!
The time is across the board from weeks to a year, depending on if there is a declined SO out there or if not, the backlog to have it made. Technically, yes, anyone can have MTO item vs SO which requires a certain purchase history, but I believe you will need to prepay at least part of the cost. I cannot say if it is possible as your first item, since that is not my situation. You can always ask.
 
Here I am not more than 3 days after picking up my beloved 10 motif guilloche and I am already contemplating what’s next! I definitely want to do earrings. I have 3 necklaces (the 10 motif, a mini frivole pendant and a holiday pendant) and a 5 motif YG WMOP bracelet. My SA and I were discussing what earrings should be up first. I’ve been wanting a dangly earring for a while (thinking the YG WMOP 2 motif), but my SA was recommending the YG pave VA studs. We also talked briefly about the mini frivole studs but I have a few pairs of smaller YG studs already (not VCA) so those would not be my first choice. Welcome your thoughts!
 
Here I am not more than 3 days after picking up my beloved 10 motif guilloche and I am already contemplating what’s next! I definitely want to do earrings. I have 3 necklaces (the 10 motif, a mini frivole pendant and a holiday pendant) and a 5 motif YG WMOP bracelet. My SA and I were discussing what earrings should be up first. I’ve been wanting a dangly earring for a while (thinking the YG WMOP 2 motif), but my SA was recommending the YG pave VA studs. We also talked briefly about the mini frivole studs but I have a few pairs of smaller YG studs already (not VCA) so those would not be my first choice. Welcome your thoughts!
I can see you finding a place in your wardrobe for either the 2 motif or the pave.
You look fabulous with MOP and I can imagine how perfect the two motif will look on you.
Of course I love pave - they are perhaps a bit more practical and go everywhere and with everything. The two motif are a bit more fun and unusual.
I have a feeling you will wind up with both!
 
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