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That's crazy! If you're able and willing to pay the premium for a SO, why would it matter how much you've spent in the past?
IKR absolutely insane. The person inquired and indicated they offered to pay in full for 20 motif SO and was total no. That they must have 85k spend history no exceptions. Im wondering if they are tightening back up because pandemic supply chain issues and slow production. I’m like thank God I got my RG SO pieces done. I will have to rearrange my plans to order my 20 if this is true and get full size clover first.
 
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Has anyone heard about new policy for SO that person must have 85K spend history before anything can be SO for them. Im flying into Houston next week to see about my 20 motif so I will report back on what I find out. If this is case then they definitely need to make stock items available in all the metal colors.
I think it was $100K purchase history to do a SO, wasn't it? I thought that was the new policy.
For clarity though, a SO is not a MTO. A MTO is pre-approved (e.g. WG oynx, Cosmos WG oynx diamond BTF ring), vs a SO is not pre-approved (e.g. WG carnelian, WG blue agate). I thought SOs were on hold late last year and would open up in 2022, so if it has not opened up yet, all SOs are a no at the moment. They may have opened up by now though, your SA would know. MTOs however, are always available; you just need to order and have it made.

What combo 20 motif are you thinking? It may be a MTO and you can just order it. I would ask your SA before you fly out to Houston to be sure. So excited to see what you're getting! Have fun! :nuts: :heart:
 
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I think it was $100K for a SO.
For clarity, a SO is not a MTO. A MTO is pre-approved (e.g. WG oynx, Cosmos WG oynx diamond BTF ring), vs a SO is not pre-approved (e.g. WG carnelian). I thought SOs were on hold late last year and would open up in 2022, so if it has not opened up yet, all SOs are a no at the moment. They may have opened up by now though, your SA would know. MTOs however, are always available; you just need to order and have it made.

What combo 20 motif are you thinking? It may be a MTO and you can just order it. I would ask your SA before you fly out to Houston to be sure. So excited to see what you're getting! Have fun! :nuts: :heart:
I hope your right….I think it was the MTO as she wanted onyx 20 motif. If that’s now closed then I have to get Clover first so I can be over the 85K to get my MOP RG. I have to go anyway so now I can have some fun trying on things with my SA
 
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I hope your right….I think it was the MTO as she wanted onyx 20 motif. If that’s now closed then I have to get Clover first so I can be over the 85K to get my MOP RG. I have to go anyway so now I can have some fun trying on things with my SA
RG MOP would be gorgeous! Maybe your SA can push as you are a loyal client. From what I've experienced at VCA, rules are more like guidelines, and they can be broken, especially when an SA (and store manager) sizes you up for future spending potential. That's the way it works from my point of view.

RG MOP 20 would be stunning! VCA will use MOP with pink overtones, so dreamy! I can see that 20 now, just fabulous! :nuts: :heart:
Maybe try on some Frivole too! :yes: I am going to London in April, so I'll drop by the VCA there and check out some pieces.
 
RG MOP would be gorgeous! Maybe your SA can push as you are a loyal client. From what I've experienced at VCA, rules are more like guidelines, and they can be broken, especially when an SA (and store manager) sizes you up for future spending potential. That's the way it works from my point of view.

RG MOP 20 would be stunning! VCA will use MOP with pink overtones, so dreamy! I can see that 20 now, just fabulous! :nuts: :heart:
Maybe try on some Frivole too! :yes: I am going to London in April, so I'll drop by the VCA there and check out some pieces.

I am still holding out for VCA to release a collection in RG with PMOP. I loved seeing it on the Sweet watch but I rarely wear watches and prefer the motifs to be spaced out. I think if they released this collection from necklaces to bracelets and earrings I would die and go to heaven.
 
I hope your right….I think it was the MTO as she wanted onyx 20 motif. If that’s now closed then I have to get Clover first so I can be over the 85K to get my MOP RG. I have to go anyway so now I can have some fun trying on things with my SA

Oooh do update us on what you hear from your SA and can’t wait to see what gorgeous pieces you’ll try on!
 
I’m obsessed with this Alhambra design. The chain is just amazing. I found it on the Phillips Jewels Instagram. I tried to find more information about this particular Alhambra collection, but didn’t see anything.

Does anyone know what this is called? It’s so pretty. Alhambra Riche doesn’t seem to produce any answers.
 

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RG MOP would be gorgeous! Maybe your SA can push as you are a loyal client. From what I've experienced at VCA, rules are more like guidelines, and they can be broken, especially when an SA (and store manager) sizes you up for future spending potential. That's the way it works from my point of view.

RG MOP 20 would be stunning! VCA will use MOP with pink overtones, so dreamy! I can see that 20 now, just fabulous! :nuts: :heart:
Maybe try on some Frivole too! :yes: I am going to London in April, so I'll drop by the VCA there and check out some pieces.
That’s what I’m thinking and I have to talk to my SA. I def plan to try on the Frivole and some earring. I can’t wait.
 
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I’m obsessed with this Alhambra design. The chain is just amazing. I found it on the Phillips Jewels Instagram. I tried to find more information about this particular Alhambra collection, but didn’t see anything.

Does anyone know what this is called? It’s so pretty. Alhambra Riche doesn’t seem to produce any answers.
Never seen that before
 
Has anyone heard about new policy for SO that person must have 85K spend history before anything can be SO for them. Im flying into Houston next week to see about my 20 motif so I will report back on what I find out. If this is case then they definitely need to make stock items available in all the metal colors.
I have not heard this and I am waiting SO approval. Agree that they just need to stock all golds. I would likely buy more.
 
IKR absolutely insane. The person inquired and indicated they offered to pay in full for 20 motif SO and was total no. That they must have 85k spend history no exceptions. Im wondering if they are tightening back up because pandemic supply chain issues and slow production. I’m like thank God I got my RG SO pieces done. I will have to rearrange my plans to order my 20 if this is true and get full size clover first.

I think it's just because they REALLY need to restock boutiques. I think it's just loosening up a little for SOs which were very restricted late last year and giving the parameters for who will be approved. I would think once stock is back to normal, they'd expand the SO privileges a little more.
 
I am still holding out for VCA to release a collection in RG with PMOP. I loved seeing it on the Sweet watch but I rarely wear watches and prefer the motifs to be spaced out. I think if they released this collection from necklaces to bracelets and earrings I would die and go to heaven.
The RG is my absolute favorite in GMOP. The combination is such a chameleon. I have paid the SO premium so I will faint because of that.
 
I think it was $100K purchase history to do a SO, wasn't it? I thought that was the new policy.
For clarity though, a SO is not a MTO. A MTO is pre-approved (e.g. WG oynx, Cosmos WG oynx diamond BTF ring), vs a SO is not pre-approved (e.g. WG carnelian, WG blue agate). I thought SOs were on hold late last year and would open up in 2022, so if it has not opened up yet, all SOs are a no at the moment. They may have opened up by now though, your SA would know. MTOs however, are always available; you just need to order and have it made.

What combo 20 motif are you thinking? It may be a MTO and you can just order it. I would ask your SA before you fly out to Houston to be sure. So excited to see what you're getting! Have fun! :nuts: :heart:

I think MTO is a piece they have had in regular inventory but now has to be ordered and it will be at the regular price like the Cosmos onyx you mentioned. SO is anything that you have to pay the 30% (or so) premium to have made. The list of Alhambra pre-approved is still SO as it commands the extra premium. That's how my SA explained it.

I do think it's absurd to charge a SO premium to stick onyx in wg when they already make Alhambra settings in wg and they cut the onyx clovers!
 
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