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I do always ask if I can take photos to be respectful, especially in these days of the social media wardrobing gals.
The one time I did not ask was when I saw the gorgeous emerald necklace that a client had commissioned. It was an Elizabeth Taylor multi-million dollar, one of a kind piece, and I did not want to create any awkward situation. I kind of regret it now because I am sure my SA would have said yes if I promised to not to share it with anyone (except hubby!) :biggrin::heart:

I am really excited about the Hellebore ring, and I was talking to hubby last night. He thinks maybe the client decided against the ring or is not sure, hence it has not been picked up yet. I hope so! If the client changes her mind, I hope VCA can resize it (or if the size difference is too great, they can put on a new shank), and then the ring can be mine! :nuts::nuts::heart::heart:

The best lapis comes from Afghanistan, but I would think VCA has a stash of lapis and creating a new piece would not be an issue.

On your necklace, because of how you described your physique, maybe skip the long necklace look and go for a bold pendant worn short, but not too short. For you, I am thinking, right at the flat bony part of the chest (you can feel your chest to find it), slightly lower than the hollow of your neck, but right above the part where your cleavage begins (squish your boobies to find the beginning of the cleavage crack! :biggrin:) I think something bold like that would be gorgeous on you. Not too short, not choker style for you.
Do you like lockets? In my YG days, I wore a big locket on a short necklace, and I loved the look. Not sure if you do, but here are some thoughts. I like the Dragonfly locket, but I like the chain on the Tree of Life locket more. Just some ideas:
18K Dragonfly Locket – Temple St. Clair (templestclair.com)
18K Tree of Life Locket – Temple St. Clair (templestclair.com)

Here is a photo of what I mean by the placement which I think makes such a different when wearing short necklaces. Liz Taylor nailed it on the exact perfect placement. It lays right at that bony part of her chest, elegant, yet teasing the eye that there are boobies below. But not obvious "look at my boobies, my necklace is falling into my boobie crack" like Mariah Carey (see second photo). Unless of course the "look at my boobies" is the message you want which some people like. I personally think Mariah's necklace would have been so much more elegant if she shortened it a bit and allowed it to lay 1" higher, in that flat, bony part of her chest. Liz Taylor could have easily dropped her necklace too, but she choose not to, and it's beautiful on her.

Anyway, this is all my two cents for some thoughts. Everyone has their own preference for where they want short necklaces to land. Hope this helps.
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You're right about the placement. However re Mariah Carey, it may have been borrowed and as a result, was not shortened for her torso, whereas Liz's was her own, and designed with her in mind specifications.
Hi! Here are my thoughts...

First, I would not get the HP. You're on the fence, so you don't love it. There is a lot of hype now around this pendant which adds to the allure of "I have to have it." Yet even with all the hype going on now, you're still on the fence and didn't drink the Kool-Aid. If there was no hype and the pendant was available anytime, my gut is you may not even be interested. On the color, the pink to me, does not work with GMOP. The HP pink is more casual fun/Barbie pink while GMOP is more softer/elegant iridescent stone. It's like putting a white porcelain motif with WMOP; it doesn't go even though both are in the white family. So, for me, I would pass on the HP unless you love the stone itself, but not to match your GMOP. You also mentioned you purchased smaller pieces that you grew tired of. I have a feeling the HP will be another one of these pieces.

Now... what to get to go with your earrings and GMOP bracelet.
I love GMOP and agree 100% with your idea to get more GMOP pieces to match I love sets, and one can be wearing shorts and still look chic because of nice matching sets. To me, matching set pulls any outfit together.

Here are my thoughts on the different types of pendants and necklaces. Necklaces and pendants are not the same, and each creates a different look and vibe. To me, a short pendant is more demure; it's basically a charm on a chain. Often times, short pendants disappear when seen on people in real life vs. looking at an online photo that zooms in right to the neck area, which is not real life. I think sometimes we stare online at mod shots all day long and forget how small a pendant really is. A necklace packs more of a punch, and since the 10 motif is on your list, I would get the 10 motif over a pendant. A 10 motif is gorgeous and has presence; you can't miss it. To your comment on smaller pieces you grew tired of, I think you will grow tire of VA GMOP pendant and find it lacking presence (just a gut feel here). Of course, you may love the single pendant demure look, so these are just my thoughts for you to consider. I think the 10 motif would be gorgeous with your earrings and bracelet. The one thing I will say about a 10 motif is it may be hard to wear. I think the 10 motif looks best with an open neckline and against skin. This is how you see most people model their 10 motifs in photos. But, that rules out round/scoop necklines, t-shirts, casual athleisure wear. Which then translates into the 10 motif looking best worn with "blouses," which means a 10 motif requires a bit dressier outfit than t-shirt/striped shirt with short/jeans.

For me, I like wearing my VCA with tshirts/striped shirts/scoop neck cashmere sweaters... very casual, all of which I think does not go well with a 10 motif as it competes with the neckline.

Which brings me to a suggestion..
On long necklaces... since you mentioned the long magic pendant, I assume you wear long necklaces.
May I suggest considering the 20 motif? For me, I would get a 20 motif RG GMOP. That would be my choice! I think a long necklace is such a versatile piece. When worn with a tee, it brings a casual elegance to the outfit. When wore with a nice outfit, it adds glamour. The 20 motif is fun yet it has a lot of presence. A 20 motif in RG GMOP... wow... that would be am amazing piece, one that can be worn casual or dressy, very versatile. :nuts::heart:

One final thought is buy what you really love, even though it may mean waiting to get it.
VCA is great in that there are so many options to mix and match. However, the downside is that sometimes, a person may purchase a piece just to have something now vs. wait a bit to have what they truly want. I say this because you mentioned you purchased smaller pieces that you tire of quickly. I sense you need pieces with more presence and make a statement.
For me, if I can't have it all (which I can't :nuts:), I would rather have only one gorgeous piece of bling that I love and wear everyday as my signature look vs. many smaller pieces of bling that yes, I can rotate wearing, but none really pack a punch or make a statement. Just a thought.

Jewelry styles are all preference of course which is why Alhambra comes in so many options.
I wanted to share my two cents so you have other perspectives. All VCA is gorgeous. I hope this was helpful.
Great advice!
 
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I do always ask if I can take photos to be respectful, especially in these days of the social media wardrobing gals.
The one time I did not ask was when I saw the gorgeous emerald necklace that a client had commissioned. It was an Elizabeth Taylor multi-million dollar, one of a kind piece, and I did not want to create any awkward situation. I kind of regret it now because I am sure my SA would have said yes if I promised to not to share it with anyone (except hubby!) :biggrin::heart:

I am really excited about the Hellebore ring, and I was talking to hubby last night. He thinks maybe the client decided against the ring or is not sure, hence it has not been picked up yet. I hope so! If the client changes her mind, I hope VCA can resize it (or if the size difference is too great, they can put on a new shank), and then the ring can be mine! :nuts::nuts::heart::heart:

The best lapis comes from Afghanistan, but I would think VCA has a stash of lapis and creating a new piece would not be an issue.

On your necklace, because of how you described your physique, maybe skip the long necklace look and go for a bold pendant worn short, but not too short. For you, I am thinking, right at the flat bony part of the chest (you can feel your chest to find it), slightly lower than the hollow of your neck, but right above the part where your cleavage begins (squish your boobies to find the beginning of the cleavage crack! :biggrin:) I think something bold like that would be gorgeous on you. Not too short, not choker style for you.
Do you like lockets? In my YG days, I wore a big locket on a short necklace, and I loved the look. Not sure if you do, but here are some thoughts. I like the Dragonfly locket, but I like the chain on the Tree of Life locket more. Just some ideas:
18K Dragonfly Locket – Temple St. Clair (templestclair.com)
18K Tree of Life Locket – Temple St. Clair (templestclair.com)

Here is a photo of what I mean by the placement which I think makes such a different when wearing short necklaces. Liz Taylor nailed it on the exact perfect placement. It lays right at that bony part of her chest, elegant, yet teasing the eye that there are boobies below. But not obvious "look at my boobies, my necklace is falling into my boobie crack" like Mariah Carey (see second photo). Unless of course the "look at my boobies" is the message you want which some people like. I personally think Mariah's necklace would have been so much more elegant if she shortened it a bit and allowed it to lay 1" higher, in that flat, bony part of her chest. Liz Taylor could have easily dropped her necklace too, but she choose not to, and it's beautiful on her.

Anyway, this is all my two cents for some thoughts. Everyone has their own preference for where they want short necklaces to land. Hope this helps.
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Thank you! I love your post and your advice! hugs
 
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At what price point would you pay for an older piece to be authenticated? I have a pair of earrings and contemplating whether it makes sense since I want to add posts. Do they provide you with a replacement certificate or just peace of mind and recognition in their system?
You get a printed Letter of Authenticity and the piece is registered to you in VCA's system. This means that the serial number will be associated with you and that the item can be repaired by VCA. I have done this on high value items, particularly ones that are heavily counterfeited. I want the peace of mind and to be able to provide proof of authenticity should I wish to sell the item, or alternatively, to have the documentation in the event the item has come back as counterfeit and I need to dispute the transaction.
 
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eCPW (effective cost per wear) is my JAM! This is how I justify basically everything.. and also why I wear the h*ll out of all of my jewelry and bags. When I was growing up, my dad collected cars, but he drove every one of them - no garage queens. :lol: So now as an adult, I have no.... closet queens, I suppose? I figure everything is meant to be worn, loved, and enjoyed - and the cost per wear really does make me feel good about dropping insane sums of $$ on these things we love so much. :hugs:
My mantra: if I can't wear it out of the store, I shouldn't be buying it. I have a very casual lifestyle and only occasionally dress-up. If I can't wear the bling everyday, what's the point?
 
This is so helpful-thank you. The cube is far more spacious than I imagined. I know you're a pearl girl . . . do you take your pearls when you travel and if so, how do you pack them? I brought pearls on a recent trip--coiled them nicely and when I took them out they had snapped. And they had just been restrung . . . Your expertise would be appreciated.
Yes, I travel with my pearls if I am not wearing them. As you can guess, pearls are bulky, and actually, the reason why I purchased this cube was for bulky pieces like pearls and bangles. VCA is actually not bulky at all.

For travel, I take my pearl strands and and drop them into the pouch. Basically, I open up the pouch and let them drop wherever they want to. I do not coil them up or anything, I just let them naturally land. Then I pull the string tight and just put then in the cube.

On your pearls, I'm surprised they snapped. Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. I've never had a strand snap, and I am tough with my pearls. I've had them caught in places or pulled at them, and the silk thread stretched. However, the silk thread has never snapped. Maybe let your person know who restrung them and check to see if they used silk? Strange.

Here is a photo of how an example of how I would pack if I were say, bringing my VCA and pearls.
The medium VCA pouches always goes first, at the bottom as the base. Then you see three little VCA pouches or however many pieces I want to take. Next would be my pearls and I just pile them in to fill the gaps. Finally, on top is always a cleaning cloth, and in this photo, you see it's the white Mikimoto cleaning cloth.

A comment on cleaning cloths for what it's worth...
I do not rotate my cleaning cloths and use only the brand's cloth with the brand.
A cloth is a cloth, so I prefer to use one for a while, then when it starts to look dingy, I will toss it, and use another cloth. Currently, the travel cloth in my Cube is my Mikimoto cloth, and it will stay in my cube for travel, regardless of if I am packing my pearls or not. If you zoom in, you can see that cloth is a getting a bit dingy. Next time I travel, I'll probably toss it and open up the next cloth, probably a VCA just to rotate them. You get so many of these cloths and pouches, and I like to use fresh ones. Otherwise, you're just wiping dirt back on to the piece. And no, I don't wash my cloths. I think I read somewhere you can wash them gently and let them air dry, but I would rather have a fresh one. That's just me.

Oh, I also posted a photo of the pearl pouches out of the Cube. You can see how plump the pouches are with my pearls inside because pearls are very bulky. The two big pearl pouches are long strands (34" and 38"). The two smaller pearl pouches are bracelets, one in each pouch. I just did that as an example, but you can stuff it with a lot. Even so, look at the first photo, and you can see there is still space to put more items... I would normally add a few more items and you can see there is tons of space.

Finally, I don't use any of those earring holder holes or ring band at the top of the Cube. I am sure people do, and it is meant for that. If you also use them, that's even more space. The Cube is very spacious.
For me, I prefer to have each piece in its own pouch. I know pouches take up space, but that's just my preference.

Hope this helps, and I hope you can get your pearls restrung fast.

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Yes! Two photos are showing now! I am going to order a cube. The color decision is just a little hard! Why on earth don't they just have a default black leather in everything?! I'd also buy pink or a taupe!
I know! The colors are awful! And yes, what happened to everything comes in black?!

Here's a thought to help you decide...
I was so undecided, I told my husband he can choose, I didn't care what color as I didn't like any; I just love the style.
My husband, without hesitation, said yellow!
I said "Yellow? That was my last choice." He said "oh no dear, if I were travelling with a little bling box, I would want a bright color so I could see it and not forget it or lose it, especially when travelling. Yellow for sure, no doubt in my mind."

He did have a point; hence I ended up with yellow. :biggrin:
I really like it now, it's so bright and happy!
 
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Yes, I travel with my pearls if I am not wearing them. As you can guess, pearls are bulky, and actually, the reason why I purchased this cube was for bulky pieces like pearls and bangles. VCA is actually not bulky at all.

For travel, I take my pearl strands and and drop them into the pouch. Basically, I open up the pouch and let them drop wherever they want to. I do not coil them up or anything, I just let them naturally land. Then I pull the string tight and just put then in the cube.

On your pearls, I'm surprised they snapped. Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. I've never had a strand snap, and I am tough with my pearls. I've had them caught in places or pulled at them, and the silk thread stretched. However, the silk thread has never snapped. Maybe let your person know who restrung them and check to see if they used silk? Strange.

Here is a photo of how an example of how I would pack if I were say, bringing my VCA and pearls.
The medium VCA pouches always goes first, at the bottom as the base. Then you see three little VCA pouches or however many pieces I want to take. Next would be my pearls and I just pile them in to fill the gaps. Finally, on top is always a cleaning cloth, and in this photo, you see it's the white Mikimoto cleaning cloth.

A comment on cleaning cloths for what it's worth...
I do not rotate my cleaning cloths and use only the brand's cloth with the brand.
A cloth is a cloth, so I prefer to use one for a while, then when it starts to look dingy, I will toss it, and use another cloth. Currently, the travel cloth in my Cube is my Mikimoto cloth, and it will stay in my cube for travel, regardless of if I am packing my pearls or not. If you zoom in, you can see that cloth is a getting a bit dingy. Next time I travel, I'll probably toss it and open up the next cloth, probably a VCA just to rotate them. You get so many of these cloths and pouches, and I like to use fresh ones. Otherwise, you're just wiping dirt back on to the piece. And no, I don't wash my cloths. I think I read somewhere you can wash them gently and let them air dry, but I would rather have a fresh one. That's just me.

Oh, I also posted a photo of the pearl pouches out of the Cube. You can see how plump the pouches are with my pearls inside because pearls are very bulky. The two big pearl pouches are long strands (34" and 38"). The two smaller pearl pouches are bracelets, one in each pouch. I just did that as an example, but you can stuff it with a lot. Even so, look at the first photo, and you can see there is still space to put more items... I would normally add a few more items and you can see there is tons of space.

Finally, I don't use any of those earring holder holes or ring band at the top of the Cube. I am sure people do, and it is meant for that. If you also use them, that's even more space. The Cube is very spacious.
For me, I prefer to have each piece in its own pouch. I know pouches take up space, but that's just my preference.

Hope this helps, and I hope you can get your pearls restrung fast.

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Okay, I’m buying a cube (and one for my mom)
thank you!
 
Since we're talking travel... I would like to share one more item if I may, and then I'll zip as I know this is a bit off topic.

I go nuts for travel accessories... Travelling with our bling... here's another item I like... a valet tray!
VCA does not make leather valet trays which bums me out, but many luxury brands do.
I love valet trays and use one in my hotel room and put it on the desk. They are also known as coin trays, catch-all trays, trinket trays, etc. At night when I take off my jewelry and watch, I put those items in my valet tray.

Here are some examples for inspiration. If you decide to purchase one, be sure to pay attention to size as some trays can be very large. You can un-snap them so they lay flat and toss them in your luggage. Hope some of you might find this helpful too.

I love this one, so happy: Catchall tray in Tiffany Blue® leather. | Tiffany & Co.

Hermes mini version: Mises et Relances Desk mini change tray | Hermès USA (hermes.com)
The larger version (too big in my opinion): Mises et Relances change tray | Hermès USA (hermes.com)

Mikimoto Suede Jewelry Tray (mikimotoamerica.com)

Cartier CROG000519 - Must de Cartier MM trinket tray - burgundy calfskin, golden finish - Cartier
 
I know! The colors are awful! And yes, what happened to everything comes in black?!

Here's a thought to help you decide...
I was so undecided, I told my husband he can choose, I didn't care what color as I didn't like any; I just love the style.
My husband, without hesitation, said yellow!
I said "Yellow? That was my last choice." He said "oh no dear, if I were travelling with a little bling box, I would want a bright color so I could see it and not forget it or lose it, especially when travelling. Yellow for sure, no doubt in my mind."

He did have a point; hence I ended up with yellow. :biggrin:
I really like it now, it's so bright and happy!
Hahaha this is hilarious. Love his rational.
 
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@BigAkoya Your DH does have a good point about color, and your idea of the leather jewelry tray is great, also! Once when we were already driving home from the beach, I realized my rings were not on my hand!!! I knew they must be on the granite bathroom countertop where they were hard for me to see as I scanned the rooms for anything we might have left!! In a near panic I called the maid, and she found them and put them in a safe place where a friend who would be going down there could send them to me! So I learned a HUGE lesson to never, ever leave a jewelry item out on any surface when travelling!!! They are either put back into the jewelry case or in a small bowl or whatever I have designated as the jewelry container!
 
@BigAkoya Your DH does have a good point about color, and your idea of the leather jewelry tray is great, also! Once when we were already driving home from the beach, I realized my rings were not on my hand!!! I knew they must be on the granite bathroom countertop where they were hard for me to see as I scanned the rooms for anything we might have left!! In a near panic I called the maid, and she found them and put them in a safe place where a friend who would be going down there could send them to me! So I learned a HUGE lesson to never, ever leave a jewelry item out on any surface when travelling!!! They are either put back into the jewelry case or in a small bowl or whatever I have designated as the jewelry container!
Omg that is terrifying, i am so glad the maid kept it safe for you!
When i was newly married i nearly forgot my rings in a hotel. So scary
 
Here's another cube jewelry case by Leatherology very similar to Wolf. It comes with 2 suede pouches instead of the insert with zipper sections that the Wolf one has. They happen to have a black with nickel (silver) hardware (a taupe/ginger and rose with nickel) and several other colors in anyone wants to compare the options.

The medium Leatherology case is 5" W x 5.2" D x 2.6" H Wolf: 4.5" L X 4.5" W X 3.75" H

So the Wolf has a greater height, so you'd have to determine which would hold the amount of jewelry you usually take when you travel. I don't think the Leatherology would work if someone wanted to take strands of pearls in addition to some pendants, bracelets, and rings. I tend to not take a lot of jewelry with me, so I could probably use either one. My main jewelry box is by Wolf, though.


Just saw they have the leather valet trays if one doesn't care about branding for a travel piece.

 
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