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Unfortunately sharing the details about authenticity helps any counterfeiters who may lurk here, and to the best of my knowledge is therefore against TPF rules.

Yes! I agree! I’ve been on TPF for over 10 years so I know the rules. I pointed out a fake online and was only saying we need to continue to do this so others don’t purchase items marketed as authentic which are clearly not due to the booming counterfeit market.
 
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Sure the clasp has varied, but the clover design hasn’t been compromised in 50 years. On a serious note, I encourage others to share information about authenticity issues, as the global counterfeit market has surpassed 1.2 TRILLION dollars, and is running laps around the resale market. As a consumer it’s hard to do your due diligence. The more rare/vintage, the more difficult to authenticate = perfect niche market for counterfeiters.
You're correct, the clover design hasn't varied, but the setting has. I have one very vintage, vintage alhambra necklace and the bezel covers the edges but the onyx is secured by prints. Its older. It's authentic. If you look at the ones owned by Grace Kelly, they're set the same way.
I agree, it's hard to do due diligence, and I fully understand why you wouldn't want to broadcast issues with a given piece for fear of educating counterfeiters. On the other hand, not all of us can buy at the boutique, further, discontinued pieces are only available on the secondary market. I would like to become a better and more educated consumer and when someone declares an item is counterfeit, I for one, would love to know why-as usually I can't see what they're talking about. I don't know how this can happen unless those with experience can share their expertise.
 
Even though the boutique doesn’t collect the tax (in those particular states), I’m fairly certain that you (the buyer) are supposed to still file.

You are correct. Most all state income tax returns ask if the person filing the return made any out of state purchases that did not include the state portion of sales tax. If so the taxpayer is responsible to report those purchases on the state tax return and pay the sales tax.
 
I wish you ladies can be my personal shoppers, I really don’t have eyes for jewelry..I probably purchased the 16motifs already but luckily I tried the 10 motif today..super pretty . Now all I have to think about is the gold color :0) the yellow gold did pop out more. Have to go back to the boutique a couple more times;)) do rose gold look better with lighter skin tone? Or is it because it goes well with white jewelry?
Loved the ten motif YG on you the best but the rose gold on your daughter. The 16 motif is pretty as a casual piece but doesn’t have the presence, so it depends what you want. I also debated and was certain I wanted the 16 sweet motifs (loved that I could wear long or doubled/tripled up as a casual choker) but then 10 motifs won out based on their wow factor.

You can’t go wrong but the YG definitely stands out more!
 
Can anybody with the mini frivole earrings comment on the post length? Are they ok? I have gotten the posts lengthened on other Vca earrings but wasn’t sure if necessary (or possible) on simple studs vs the ones with omega backs - thank you!!,
 
Can anybody with the mini frivole earrings comment on the post length? Are they ok? I have gotten the posts lengthened on other Vca earrings but wasn’t sure if necessary (or possible) on simple studs vs the ones with omega backs - thank you!!,
I don’t have these but I did try them on. I have a super thick right earlobe and these fit fine. I believe you could also get them lengthened as some members have said in the past but I’m just a VCA newbie so I can’t comment on that personally
 
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Can anybody with the mini frivole earrings comment on the post length? Are they ok? I have gotten the posts lengthened on other Vca earrings but wasn’t sure if necessary (or possible) on simple studs vs the ones with omega backs - thank you!!,

I have the mini pave frivole earstuds and I didn’t have to lengthen the posts. Bear in mind my earlobes are not very fleshy but for my other earclips (vintage Alhambra and the regular sized frivole), I have always lengthened the posts.
HTHs.
 
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Can anybody with the mini frivole earrings comment on the post length? Are they ok? I have gotten the posts lengthened on other Vca earrings but wasn’t sure if necessary (or possible) on simple studs vs the ones with omega backs - thank you!!,

Hi Kat! I lengthened all of my Alhambra earrings but did not on the mini frivolous. No issues... and don’t know whether it is possible.
 
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Can anybody with the mini frivole earrings comment on the post length? Are they ok? I have gotten the posts lengthened on other Vca earrings but wasn’t sure if necessary (or possible) on simple studs vs the ones with omega backs - thank you!!,

Hi Kat. I have the mini frivole and the posts are on the longer side, no need to lengthen them. The Alhambra ear clips all seem to come with shorter posts, with the option to replace with longer posts. Maybe because these can't be replaced they intentionally made them on the longer side? Either way I agree with others that the post length is on the longer side and should be ok.
 
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