VCA ~ Van Cleef Arpels Discussion thread!

[Starvista]

sorry I can not get a picture under a natural lighting , the lighting in the boutique cast shadows everywhere.wish I can walk out the store to take more realistic photos the first is yellow.

 

[nicole0612]

In a different auction on April 9th, Allure Antique Auction Company has a Yellow Gold pave Sweet 6 motif up for auction. Again, to my recollection it has never been released and I highly doubt that VCA would make a SO for an entry level piece which is also relatively new to their Sweet line even for a VVIP. So please be careful when purchasing from anywhere except direct from a boutique. It is a pity that there are so many obvious fakes out there which begs the question of how many normal fakes are on the market. Those starting out would be wise to buy direct even if it costs a bit more as you cannot put a price on piece of mind. Photos for perusal: View attachment 4390340View attachment 4390341View attachment 4390342

This was just released in Japan about a week ago. Yes, seems quite questionable.

 

[nicole0612]

sorry I can not get a picture under a natural lighting , the lighting in the boutique cast shadows everywhere.View attachment 4390368View attachment 4390369wish I can walk out the store to take more realistic photos the first is yellow.

I like this on you quite a lot.
Rose gold is lovely but doesn’t work on all skin tones; it seems to work very well on you though.
Updated to add; are these photos of both yellow gold (the first photo) and rose gold (the second photo)? If so, I prefer the yellow gold on you. I love the rose gold, but it vanishes into my skin and seems to slightly on you as well. However, if you prefer a very subtle look then it might be perfect.

 

[nicole0612]

This was just released in Japan about a week ago. Yes, seems quite questionable.

Sorry, I finally found the photo.

 

[tbbbjb]

This was just released in Japan about a week ago. Yes, seems quite questionable.

@nicole0612 Thank you so much! Our members are truly the best! I, however, have grave doubts that the piece up for auction is in fact genuine as newly released pieces are limited supply/ high demand and as such would only show up on the second hand market with a hefty premium.

 

[tbbbjb]

I am quite interested in these new yellow gold pieces in the Sweet line. Does anyone know if they are currently available for purchase?

Are they debuting in Japan and then worldwide or are they limited release to Japan?

Does anyone know the price points on these new yellow gold editions to the Sweet line?

The article that @nicole0612 posted only refers to the watches, but I think in addition to the pre-launch of the watches there are 4 Sweet yellow gold pave pieces. Hopefully a permanent edition to the line available worldwide and not a limited release or Japan only release.

 

[Starvista]

I wish you ladies can be my personal shoppers, I really don’t have eyes for jewelry..I probably purchased the 16motifs already but luckily I tried the 10 motif today..super pretty . Now all I have to think about is the gold color :0) the yellow gold did pop out more. Have to go back to the boutique a couple more times) do rose gold look better with lighter skin tone? Or is it because it goes well with white jewelry?

 

[tbbbjb]

I like this on you quite a lot.
Rose gold is lovely but doesn’t work on all skin tones; it seems to work very well on you though.
Updated to add; are these photos of both yellow gold (the first photo) and rose gold (the second photo)? If so, I prefer the yellow gold on you. I love the rose gold, but it vanishes into my skin and seems to slightly on you as well. However, if you prefer a very subtle look then it might be perfect.

Typically, either rose or yellow gold will look better depending on which undertones are in your actual skin tone. Sometimes that is difficult to ascertain via a photo. In person, it should be obvious which one wows and which one sort-of blends in. And, of course, only you would know what effect you are trying to achieve.

Do you have a cool (if you see hints of blue, pink or red), warm (if the base tone of your skin is yellow or gold) or neutral (if there's a mixture of both warm and cool hues, or your undertone is the same color as your actual skin color ) undertone? Depending on your skin tone and under tone one color metal will usually look better then another. This isn’t to say that you cannot rock any metal your heart desires, it is just a suggestion.

Just like there are specific colors of clothing that either enhance your appearance and there are those that make you look sickly and that is based on a combination of skin tone, under tone, hair color and eye color.

Also, keep in mind that some people’s skin tone changes seasonally. Are you one of those people? You may want to keep that in mind as well when selecting between rose and yellow gold.

Justine Leconte does some rather informative YouTube videos regarding color theory but in regards to how it translates to clothing and accessories. Her videos will help in deciphering one’s own skin tone and under tone then assist in the selection of accessories (jewelry and metal colors are covered) and colors that will compliment you best. I’ll try to post some relevant links to her videos tomorrow if anyone is interested.

 

[nicole0612]

I am quite interested in these new yellow gold pieces in the Sweet line. Does anyone know if they are currently available for purchase?

Are they debuting in Japan and then worldwide or are they limited release to Japan?

Does anyone know the price points on these new yellow gold editions to the Sweet line?

The article that @nicole0612 posted only refers to the watches, but I think in addition to the pre-launch of the watches there are 4 Sweet yellow gold pave pieces. Hopefully a permanent edition to the line available worldwide and not a limited release or Japan only release.

I asked my SA in the USA last week and she did not know if/when this line would be coming to other countries outside Japan. I will add the photo of the other YG pave sweets in the line (not including the watches). The article makes it seem as though it would be available worldwide eventually, but it may just be wishful thinking since it is focused on the watch options. I do have hope, since the mini pave frivole line is now being released in different metal combos that maybe the pave sweet Alhambra line will also be expanded to YG.

 

[cattttrannn]

Even though the boutique doesn’t collect the tax (in those particular states), I’m fairly certain that you (the buyer) are supposed to still file.

You are correct, except my state doesn't have state income tax so there is no form to collect use tax

 

[valnsw]

I wish you ladies can be my personal shoppers, I really don’t have eyes for jewelry..I probably purchased the 16motifs already but luckily I tried the 10 motif today..super pretty . Now all I have to think about is the gold color :0) the yellow gold did pop out more. Have to go back to the boutique a couple more times) do rose gold look better with lighter skin tone? Or is it because it goes well with white jewelry?

You could ask the SA if you can return and exchange the 16 motifs for the 10 motifs vintage Alhambra if you prefer the latter. Iirc, the former is priced lower than the latter.

 

[valnsw]

I am quite interested in these new yellow gold pieces in the Sweet line. Does anyone know if they are currently available for purchase?

Are they debuting in Japan and then worldwide or are they limited release to Japan?

Does anyone know the price points on these new yellow gold editions to the Sweet line?

The article that @nicole0612 posted only refers to the watches, but I think in addition to the pre-launch of the watches there are 4 Sweet yellow gold pave pieces. Hopefully a permanent edition to the line available worldwide and not a limited release or Japan only release.

I asked my SA in the USA last week and she did not know if/when this line would be coming to other countries outside Japan. I will add the photo of the other YG pave sweets in the line (not including the watches). The article makes it seem as though it would be available worldwide eventually, but it may just be wishful thinking since it is focused on the watch options. I do have hope, since the mini pave frivole line is now being released in different metal combos that maybe the pave sweet Alhambra line will also be expanded to YG.
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I asked my SA and was told that unfortunately, it’s released in Japan and for that store *sobs*

 

[Notorious Pink]

Justine Leconte does some rather informative YouTube videos regarding color theory but in regards to how it translates to clothing and accessories. Her videos will help in deciphering one’s own skin tone and under tone then assist in the selection of accessories (jewelry and metal colors are covered) and colors that will compliment you best. I’ll try to post some relevant links to her videos tomorrow if anyone is interested.

Yes, please [emoji254][emoji254][emoji254]

 

[Notorious Pink]

I encourage others to share information about authenticity issues, as the global counterfeit market has surpassed 1.2 TRILLION dollars, and is running laps around the resale market. As a consumer it’s hard to do your due diligence. The more rare/vintage, the more difficult to authenticate = perfect niche market for counterfeiters.

Unfortunately sharing the details about authenticity helps any counterfeiters who may lurk here, and to the best of my knowledge is therefore against TPF rules.

 

[lynne_ross]

I asked my SA in the USA last week and she did not know if/when this line would be coming to other countries outside Japan. I will add the photo of the other YG pave sweets in the line (not including the watches). The article makes it seem as though it would be available worldwide eventually, but it may just be wishful thinking since it is focused on the watch options. I do have hope, since the mini pave frivole line is now being released in different metal combos that maybe the pave sweet Alhambra line will also be expanded to YG.
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Oh my! These are the 2 sweet pieces I love but wish they came in Yg! I hope these are released everywhere!