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nicole0612 said:
Per your request, turquoise, rock crystal and chrysoprase.

I think that I like turquoise better with MOP, pave and solid gold, those stones are more feminine, glamorous and classic to me, while the rock crystal and chrysoprase are more ethereal and make me think of the beauty of a bygone era.
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I agree. Also, the rock crystal and chrysoprase are transparent stones and have the same value, whereas the turquoise is opaque. It's too bold a color to comfortably pair with the others. Save the turquoise to pair with the WMOP. It's gorgeous!
 

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#12,951
Happyish said:
I have bought a lot of preloved jewelry. The VCA store won't authenticate--it's against policy, and generally the SA's lack the expertise to accurately do so. Formal authentication is currently taking about 6 months.
Given that she's willing to meet you at VCA and has the polishing receipt from Vendome, I would feel fairly confident in pursuing this. However, given your concern, buy it with a credit card--not a wire transfer or cash. It will preserve your right of return should you determine it's not correct.
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I appreciate your thoughts on this. I contacted the store VCA NYC store today about how long it would take to verify authenticity given what she has and they said "the best they can do is 3-6 months". What would you suggest? Is it unreasonable to ask someone to wait that long for the verification before they get paid the remaining amount? If it is placed on a credit card, do I even have any recourse after that period of time? I am wondering if VCA does this intentionally to dissuade people from buying second hand.:hrmm:
 
#12,952
nicole0612 said:
Per your request, turquoise, rock crystal and chrysoprase.

I think that I like turquoise better with MOP, pave and solid gold, those stones are more feminine, glamorous and classic to me, while the rock crystal and chrysoprase are more ethereal and make me think of the beauty of a bygone era.
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I absolutely love love all three. The chrysoprase with the rock crystal are perfect as they are both translucent. The Turquoise is perfect with the Rock as well
 
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mommafahionista said:
I appreciate your thoughts on this. I contacted the store VCA NYC store today about how long it would take to verify authenticity given what she has and they said "the best they can do is 3-6 months". What would you suggest? Is it unreasonable to ask someone to wait that long for the verification before they get paid the remaining amount? If it is placed on a credit card, do I even have any recourse after that period of time? I am wondering if VCA does this intentionally to dissuade people from buying second hand.:hrmm:
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Yes, they do want to dissuade people from buying second-hand. Sometimes the time for authenticity is far less than six months.

Also, there's a hefty fee--$1800. Depending on the cost of the item, this may not be reasonable. Moreover, this isn't the only route--there are other firms that authenticate for a fee, but VCA is the most definitive and reliable.

I believe you have six months to dispute a transaction through your credit card company for fraud--but call first and double-check. If you want to return b/c the item is counterfeit you'll have to prove it--hence the need for something in writing verifying that determination.

I doubt your seller will agree to let defer payment while you verify authenticity. You're overseas (to her), and you'll have her merchandise but she will not have paid in full. I imagine you'll have to pay the remaining balance before she'll release the piece.

VCA won't polish something unless they first verify authenticity . . . however, this isn't always foolproof. But the fact your seller has original documentation (not a copy) from VCA and is willing to meet you at VCA so someone can examine the piece is a strong indicator of her confidence in the authenticity of the item.
 
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mommafahionista said:
I appreciate your thoughts on this. I contacted the store VCA NYC store today about how long it would take to verify authenticity given what she has and they said "the best they can do is 3-6 months". What would you suggest? Is it unreasonable to ask someone to wait that long for the verification before they get paid the remaining amount? If it is placed on a credit card, do I even have any recourse after that period of time? I am wondering if VCA does this intentionally to dissuade people from buying second hand.:hrmm:
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Hi I think that it’s unreasonable to ask someone to wait 3-6 months for VCA to verify before you pay them for the item. . You indicated that she had all the necessary paperwork which indicates it was recently serviced. I purchased preloved piece recently that I needed to have shortened. My SA advised it needed to go to Paris for 6 months for authentication before I could get adjusted. That’s just VCA policy. Neimans gave me no hassle and advised it will be about 3 weeks to handle. No reseller is going to wait that timeframe so you need to decide your comfort level. If it’s a rested piece that you desperately want then I say take the plunge. You could always ask for it to be serviced at NYC and if they refuse that’s your first indication of something’s wrong
 
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