tPF authenticator discussion

[Prada Psycho]

This is a post that I would really like Megs to respond to, please.
I have been an active tPFer for the past seven years. On the whole, I have enjoyed being a part of the forum and I have made some wonderful friends here - some of whom have gone on to be IRL friends.
Have there been things about tPF that have upset or annoyed me during this time? Of course there have, but I recognise that The Purse Forum is a business - ultimately the aim is to make a profit for the owners. Just as it should. We all know that in business, you will sometimes lose employees (in this case, members) and although it can be upsetting to lose good people, it is the nature of any business. Someone else comes along to fill the gap and life goes on.
Anyway - I think it's fair to say that in my time as a member here, I have not been one to court drama or snarkiness. In those threads where there has been unpleasantness, I've kept my head down - not poking my nose too far above the parapet. I mention this as I would like you to understand this post is not one I am making on a whim - I have given some thought on whether I should post here at all.
Up until recently, I thougt tPF was a safe, happy place where people were treated with respect.
This thread has been a real eye-opener for me - which brings me to the point of this post. I simply do not understand why the member who was so offensive to one of our authenticators (from memory, this was happening as recently as February this year) that the authenticator left, why this member - in a move clearly sanctioned by mods and admin - is now authenticating here herself. I am genuinely puzzled as to how this could be allowed. I would love to hear an explanation because at the moment, this decision is telling me there is no loyalty towards those who have done their best to help at tPF and no support for members who are verbally abused here. A NastyGram and a warning are not enough when members are being insulting and rude to others, let alone rewarding them for such behaviour. In my opinion, this is a decision that does not show tPF in a good light. I would go further and say I believe this has cost the board a significant part of its integrity.
I hope (but doubt) this post will be allowed to stand unedited - if it is allowed to stand at all. I would like to point out I am just stating my own opinion, albeit one that I am given to understand is shared by many other members here.

Wait are you now saying cb left because of my comments from eons ago about a bag?

Also, I didn't just "now start" authenticating. I have been helping on and off for few years



You are incorrect in saying that was incorrect... I believe that saying something like this is extremely grave and nobody should ever say anything like this without actual proof, because otherwise a grave statement like this, saying that a business which authenticates was wrong, is defamation. Coming from the person then who just stated I understand the gravity of such a statement, and who has the utmost respect for that business, I will state again that you saying my previous statement was incorrect, is incorrect. Have you asked them directly, luvprada, if they have ever been wrong? Everyone makes mistakes and that was my only point in that one comment you are referring to, that even the highly esteemed businesses make mistakes and are wrong. If you read the context in my original post then you should know my original intent. In fact they are my recommended service. Keep trying to twist the story I promise will get you nowhere

Wait can you clarify please? I am currently authenticating in her place in the interim... Is this about me you are referring to? I didn't post anything offensive or was offensive?

Wait are you now saying cb left because of my comments from eons ago about a bag?

Also, I didn't just "now start" authenticating. I have been helping on and off for few years



You are incorrect in saying that was incorrect... I believe that saying something like this is extremely grave and nobody should ever say anything like this without actual proof, because otherwise a grave statement like this, saying that a business which authenticates was wrong, is defamation. Coming from the person then who just stated I understand the gravity of such a statement, and who has the utmost respect for that business, I will state again that you saying my previous statement was incorrect, is incorrect. Have you asked them directly, luvprada, if they have ever been wrong? Everyone makes mistakes and that was my only point in that one comment you are referring to, that even the highly esteemed businesses make mistakes and are wrong. If you read the context in my original post then you should know my original intent. In fact they are my recommended service. Keep trying to twist the story I promise will get you nowhere

I haven't even been on TPF in the recent past for a long while ... Are you sure this is about me?

Please read thru the recent posts to see that I am not the only member that found previous posts offensive.

CB is not returning.

Wait can you clarify please? I am currently authenticating in her place in the interim... Is this about me you are referring to? I didn't post anything offensive or was offensive?

Is that a threat?

 

[Roku]

Is that a threat?

No, please read my paragraph again, and if you don't get it, read it again.
I'm saying
1) I understand the very grave implications of saying someone was wrong (the business)
2) and therefore I would never say something like that unless I knew it was a fact.

And then as an added message, YOU on the other hand do not know, so, why would you state I was incorrect when you don't know?

are you trying to illicit further drama?

 

[luvprada]

Sounded like a threat to me

 

[Roku]

I understand that TPF cannot be responsible for actions outside the forum, but there was no action taken in TPF when a member treated the Chanel forum long time authenticator offensively inside the forum. CB has now left apparently permanently. She dedicated herself and time to the forum with over 20,000 posts and saved countless members from buying fake Chanel handbags.

Is the forum so desperate for authenticators to now allow the member who treated CB offensively to now authenticate in CB's place?
Speaking for myself and has someone who moderated on another forum (not TPF) , I am very disappointed that this has been allowed to occur.

I myself have a strike against me for accidentally posting a comment in a reference thread. While I completely understand I made a mistake, which was a mistake, I now have a 'strike' which I accept as appropriate, on my TPF record. My mistakes were not intentional, and there was no language to hurt anyone, just admiration of handbags posted in the wrong thread.

If I received a strike for posting in the wrong thread, why does it appear that nothing was done to correct inappropriate behavior by a forum member. Why is that member now allowed to authenticate? The member was not only offensive to CB, but also accused a paid authenticating service of incorrectly stating a handbag was real.

That this behavior having been allowed to occur, with the member who caused all the strife now authenticating, is very disappointing and shows no commitment to members who are truly trying to make a positive difference.

Do you all realize how very foolish and hypocritical you are being; you are saying CB was offended by someone (I still can't believe it was me; again I haven't been on TPF for a very long time, and the last time I was on ATC was when I disagreed on one bag a long time ago, but she's been authenticating ever since, so I'm positive it wasn't me, just really weird that you would insinuate that).

You are saying that it is so disrespectful to offend a contributing member of TPF who is giving so much of her time, knowledge and efforts...

Yes, it is so disrespectful of you and others to be treating a contributing member of TPF who is giving so much of my time and efforts, and to continually offend me ironically in a forum that is about not offending authenticators.

Why don't you take a minute and read the last several pages of my posts, before you can pretend you know what you are talking about. Do you feel that they are not very helpful to the community? Not just my authentications and the extra tips I try to provide to help, but overall. Some have even made it to the weekly blog highlight thingie I don't remember what it's called. You are going to risk isolating me because I disagreed with a bag ages ago (I thought like a year ago)?

Now let's go back to the original topic. Like I said, I've been authenticating on ATC on and off for the last few years. You can wear a proud star, knowing that you have directly and snidely offended someone who only has every intention to help out in the forum, turned me off so completely that I really don't want to authenticate again. Why should I, when there are people like you who complain, for absolutely no good reason, and point fingers to someone who just wants to help? Like you said, it's not for my health. Did someone say it's a way that the forum "rewards" or "sanctions" authenticators? Are you kidding me? This forum has been an outlet for my severe life stress and procrastination where I can contribute my extraneous knowledge from my multi-decade purse collection habit. If anyone is "rewarded" it's the community, not me, for my contributions, and now, you have officially offended me and I no longer am interested in contributing. Those looking for an authenticator can thank you guys here on this thread, for not having one, I mean I was literally just instigating nobody, doing my thing and now you've somehow not only provoked me but royally pissed me off. Maybe CB will come back or someone else will step in so the requestors can get some help (or maybe, luvprada, maybe you can authenticate).

Whose team are you on? Are you on "Team Community," or are you on "team adolescents taking sides because I don't have anything better to do but take sides and create unnecessary drama and offend others"?

At the very least, when I'm on this forum procrastinating from work stress, I'm contributing in a good way!!

 

[luvprada]

Actually I am fine thank you.

 

[JetSetGo!]

For all the reasons stated previously, Roku does not have to answer to any more of these accusations.
We are closing of this thread since it is not respectful and the arguments are ill-informed.

There are new avenues for authenticators to discuss issues that do not include public trials.

 

[Megs]

This thread started over 4 months ago, and in those 4 months much has been done to help the authenticators on tPF. This thread was for authenticators to share their grievances so that we could work with them to make this a better place for them to authenticate, for people to ask for authentications, and to build the forum and community up.

This thread has taken many turns in those 4 months, but something I am not going to allow in this thread or anywhere on the site, is members talking openly about other members. We always remove personal attacks and I ask that everyone who has a personal issue with another member act respectfully - either PM that person if you would like to discuss, or come to me via PM. But to talk openly about another on tPF is not allowed.

I have stated this many times before and while you don't need to believe me, the fact is that always there are more sides to a story than the one you are told. I am very sorry if any member on tPF feels like they have been treated poorly here, by other members or mods. I have always done my best to help those situations and make this place fun and safe for everyone involved. Again, you are welcome to PM me directly with issues, and I will respond.

This thread is being closed for a variety of reasons. There are changes in the making for the authenticators and those asking for authentications.

A few more things to answer that were asked before we decided to close this thread down:

- For those who were issued a reminder, please note that it does not mean you are banned once you reach a certain number of reminders. The reminder is supposed to simply remind you of the community rules. I know many people don't like them and feel like they are being slapped on the wrist. We are all adults and I am truly not trying to reprimand anyone in a childish way.

- I can only act on what happens on tPF. Majority of us are on many different sites; Facebook, other forums/communities, Instagram. I can not be in charge of what happens to members or is committed by members outside of tPF.

- Keep in mind that there are always more sides to a story.

- I have never selected anyone as an authenticator on this forum, nor has any mod. Authenticators voluntarily decide to take on the task, prove their knowledge and help this community. We are thankful for them and their service, but we never ask them to authenticate.

I care greatly for this forum and community. I have met many members and become friends with many as well. I think this community is amazing to one another and I know that everyone is trying to look out for their friends in this thread. There is not a lack of empathy, if anything, I am overly emphatic - and want to make this place as great as it can be and help people feel happy here. I also realize that I can not appease everyone at all times, but the fact is that I try.

As this thread has taken its course, I we decided to close it. You are welcome to PM me if you would like.

Thanks everyone.