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U have posted what i am thinking but don't know how to put into words. It's a question that I don't understand.
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Hi clevercat, and thank you for your thoughtful post. I am not Megs, but would like to answer you from my point of view. Hopefully she will chime in when she can.
You are right. If this forum wasn't a business it would not exist. Megs and Vlad work really hard to maintain it and keep it running not just for their livelihood, but out of sincere love for the forum and its members. It is a gift when making a living and engaging in your passion converge. They are lucky – and we are lucky as a result. Anyone who points a nasty finger at the "money-making" aspect, is only seeing a limited side of this forum. Greed is not the motivator here and anyone who understands business can see that.
In regards to the backstory that is circling around the rumor mills. tPF cannot act on suspicion and rumor of activities outside of tPF. We have to act on what happens here – things we can see. To do otherwise is irresponsible and unfair to anyone and everyone who may become the target of unwarranted and unfair accusations.
That one member suspects another of doing something outside of the forum and that issue is brought here with no proof or substantiation, is just not something we can take as a tPF issue. Again, this is out of fairness to all of our members. We would not take action on or even judge any or our members based on rumblings. The internet is full of them and we must be diligent to not be seduced by them. We are aware there is a lot of chat off the boards about this, but it is still not our place to partake. In fact, the action that the rumors are based in took place off the board was heavily targeted to hurt a tPF admin/mod, and she stated again and again, she does not want to air it here. That is her prerogative, and we owe her that consideration. For that we ask for everyone's understanding. We would do the same for all of you.
I'm sorry if it appears the forum is not supporting its members or appreciating its authenticators. In fact, we dedicate a large portion of our days to doing exactly this. Have mistakes and oversights been made in the past? Yes. There have been apologies upon apologies for this and Megs is working very hard to accommodate authenticators in ways you may not see. That authenticators are rarely partaking in this thread anymore is a testament to that. Also, several new forum mods, including one in Chanel, and two global mods were also added to the team (littlerock and myself) to help us maintain a greater presence and awareness of the forum as a whole. The more we know about what happens here, the better we can help.
For the record, the forum does not choose or sanction authenticators. They choose the forum. We don't appoint them. They come and join in the the auth threads at their own accord. And as long as they show they know what they are doing, we support them. It's about the work they do, and their contribution to the community. For that, they will all always have our support.
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I also want to add, that there are times when authenticators don't get along – we cannot guarantee everyone is going to love each other. You can see this all over the forum, two members see things differently.
The reports of rudeness in February have continued to be reviewed, and there no rules were broken on the board. There was a disagreement regarding authenticity of a bag. It happens. As a result, to keep those disagreements from happening before the viewing audience, we have taken steps so that would not have to be done publicly in the future.
It is awful for everyone when a valued and trusted authenticator leaves. But, we cannot force anyone to stay or to be happy.
The reports of rudeness in February have continued to be reviewed, and there no rules were broken on the board. There was a disagreement regarding authenticity of a bag. It happens. As a result, to keep those disagreements from happening before the viewing audience, we have taken steps so that would not have to be done publicly in the future.
It is awful for everyone when a valued and trusted authenticator leaves. But, we cannot force anyone to stay or to be happy.
I understand that TPF cannot be responsible for actions outside the forum, but there was no action taken in TPF when a member treated the Chanel forum long time authenticator offensively inside the forum. CB has now left apparently permanently. She dedicated herself and time to the forum with over 20,000 posts and saved countless members from buying fake Chanel handbags.
Is the forum so desperate for authenticators to now allow the member who treated CB offensively to now authenticate in CB's place?
Speaking for myself and has someone who moderated on another forum (not TPF) , I am very disappointed that this has been allowed to occur.
I myself have a strike against me for accidentally posting a comment in a reference thread. While I completely understand I made a mistake, which was a mistake, I now have a 'strike' which I accept as appropriate, on my TPF record. My mistakes were not intentional, and there was no language to hurt anyone, just admiration of handbags posted in the wrong thread.
If I received a strike for posting in the wrong thread, why does it appear that nothing was done to correct inappropriate behavior by a forum member. Why is that member now allowed to authenticate? The member was not only offensive to CB, but also accused a paid authenticating service of incorrectly stating a handbag was real.
That this behavior having been allowed to occur, with the member who caused all the strife now authenticating, is very disappointing and shows no commitment to members who are truly trying to make a positive difference.
Is the forum so desperate for authenticators to now allow the member who treated CB offensively to now authenticate in CB's place?
Speaking for myself and has someone who moderated on another forum (not TPF) , I am very disappointed that this has been allowed to occur.
I myself have a strike against me for accidentally posting a comment in a reference thread. While I completely understand I made a mistake, which was a mistake, I now have a 'strike' which I accept as appropriate, on my TPF record. My mistakes were not intentional, and there was no language to hurt anyone, just admiration of handbags posted in the wrong thread.
If I received a strike for posting in the wrong thread, why does it appear that nothing was done to correct inappropriate behavior by a forum member. Why is that member now allowed to authenticate? The member was not only offensive to CB, but also accused a paid authenticating service of incorrectly stating a handbag was real.
That this behavior having been allowed to occur, with the member who caused all the strife now authenticating, is very disappointing and shows no commitment to members who are truly trying to make a positive difference.
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CB was and continues to be valued and respected here. She has chosen to step down from participating, which is truly unfortunate for everyone. We regret that happened and that she was offended, but we must be responsible to all members. As for someone else stepping in, we are now treading to a place where we are publicly trying a member, which is not only not allowed, but ironic, since much of this discussion in this thread is about supporting authenticators.
This question regarding being offensive has been answered, but it is somehow being missed. Posts were reviewed and there was no evidence of one attacking another on the board – or off for that matter. Please read my previous post.
We value privacy, so I won't talk about specific members publicly, but I will reiterate that just because the membership doesn't see any action taken against a member doesn't mean it didn't happen.
A lot of PMs have gone back and forth with everyone involved and these are also not clearly visible to the membership.
Megs is trying very hard to move forward and offer more support and I'd bet that if most current authenticators chimed in they'd agree that this is the case.
A lot of PMs have gone back and forth with everyone involved and these are also not clearly visible to the membership.
Megs is trying very hard to move forward and offer more support and I'd bet that if most current authenticators chimed in they'd agree that this is the case.
Wait can you clarify please? I am currently authenticating in her place in the interim... Is this about me you are referring to? I didn't post anything offensive or was offensive?
I haven't even been on TPF in the recent past for a long while ... Are you sure this is about me?
You are not the only one speaking up here or with an opinion, but the facts remain the same. As always, if you see an offensive post in AT or anywhere on the forum, report it. If it is breaking the rules of the forum, we will tend to it.
We are sad that CB is not here, and we hope at some point she decides to return. But of course, that will be her choice.
Wait are you now saying cb left because of my comments from eons ago about a bag?
Also, I didn't just "now start" authenticating. I have been helping on and off for few years
You are incorrect in saying that was incorrect... I believe that saying something like this is extremely grave and nobody should ever say anything like this without actual proof, because otherwise a grave statement like this, saying that a business which authenticates was wrong, is defamation. Coming from the person then who just stated I understand the gravity of such a statement, and who has the utmost respect for that business, I will state again that you saying my previous statement was incorrect, is incorrect. Have you asked them directly, luvprada, if they have ever been wrong? Everyone makes mistakes and that was my only point in that one comment you are referring to, that even the highly esteemed businesses make mistakes and are wrong. If you read the context in my original post then you should know my original intent. In fact they are my recommended service. Keep trying to twist the story I promise will get you nowhere
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I've gotten a few of those "slap on the wrists" strikes, as well as had some comments removed when a discussion went off track. Are these permanent strikes? Is someone keeping score? Will I be banned once I hit a certain number? I assumed they were just reminders.
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