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#751
A few of us have been trying to help out in the AT Chanel thread since it is so busy....and I know CB prefers to help members who have participated etc, which she has every right to do. She doesn't have time to authenticate AND be a welcoming committee. It seems that when we have a poster who is very new or posting incorrectly we need deal with it so we've been welcoming them and encouraging them to participate, while explaining the rules. So far, they have understood. Hopefully they will engage in TPF and stay on as contributing members. We say something like "welcome to TPF, this is a wonderful forum full on info and we look forward to getting to know you here...."

I do feel the authenticators need some help but I would hate to think we are creating more work for them. As I look back, about half of the posts are incomplete or need further attention before anything can be done with them. It isn't hard to keep up with if several of us are doing it and maybe it's more user friendly than a form.

Some authenticators have their PM's turned off (and we know why :) ), but if we had a way for some PM's to get thru, it would be helpful. I do think there is a place for others to help on the threads to take off some of their load.
 
#752
This is to our Mods here. Why is thread like this is allowed to remain open?

http://forum.purseblog.com/hermes/4-pieces-of-himalaya-905607.html

One of the most experienced authenticators, if not THE most experienced, has already given an opinion on a bag. The requester is now challenging that verdict directly in an open forum to strangers on the forum whether that opinion is trust-worthy or not. I really hope we don't lose this authenticator!
 
#753
There are many threads on the forum where people discuss authentication services. The thread you referenced breaks no forum rules. Though this discussion doesn't really belong in this thread.
 
#754
Mistikat, I know since you are a mod, you have the final say in this. But I don't agree that the thread I referred to has any merit. It's asking people to discuss authentication opinions outside the authentication forum. I don't have any more to say on this and we can agree on the disagreement.
 
#755
xiangxiang0731 said:
Mistikat, I know since you are a mod, you have the final say in this. But I don't agree that the thread I referred to has any merit. It's asking people to discuss authentication opinions outside the authentication forum. I don't have any more to say on this and we can agree on the disagreement.
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I have posted about this in the thread in the Hermes forum. Members are free to ask for opinions on authentication services, which is what the OP in that thread is doing. Please feel free to PM me if you want to talk about it further.
 
#757
xiangxiang0731 said:
This is to our Mods here. Why is thread like this is allowed to remain open?

http://forum.purseblog.com/hermes/4-pieces-of-himalaya-905607.html

One of the most experienced authenticators, if not THE most experienced, has already given an opinion on a bag. The requester is now challenging that verdict directly in an open forum to strangers on the forum whether that opinion is trust-worthy or not. I really hope we don't lose this authenticator!
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mistikat said:
There are many threads on the forum where people discuss authentication services. The thread you referenced breaks no forum rules. Though this discussion doesn't really belong in this thread.
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Sorry mistikat, I didn't realise the authentication was done via the authenticator's paid service. Then it doesn't belong here. Feel free to delete my posts.
 
#758
deacc said:
I didn't want to do too many quotes so I will just quote this one and make some observation.

1. I forgot about the edit time limit, I don't think allowing a longer edit period is a good idea either.

2. With regards to deleting. I think some steps can be taken to prevent error. First I think the mods and authenticators of each brand should discuss what should be the standard and adhere to it. If one authenticator actually don't mind authenticating with certain pieces missing. Then leave those requirements out. The authenticator that is willing to authenticate can authenticate those. i.e. the post 1 requirement should be something agreed upon by all the authenticators of a particular brand.
Also, from previous experience as a mod and later admin of a forum years ago, when we delete post we don't actually delete them. What we do instead is move that post into a thread where only mods/admin can see. This way we still have the post but it is no longer visible by regular members.

3. About a AT form. This is a good idea but it can be tricky. One of the most common missing components in ATLV is a sale link (which is a requirement). So the form must only accept the posting if a link is filled it vs text. Another common missing components are required pics. (be it missing pics or the pics are blurry). I think there should be something in the form that ask the question "Do your request contains enough clear pics to allow the authenticators to make an authentication?" Please see post 1,with a link provided. for minimum requirement. The default is no, so the poster will have to click yes. One also needs to allow the poster to add additional pics.

4. And finally another common problem in ATLV is when a poster is responding to an authenticators request for additional pics (usually upon receiving the item). The rule is that you should quote your original post (or provide a link), the authenticator's response to your original post and then the requested additional post. This way the authenticators can have everything together and review without having to waste time to back track. I am not sure how picky authenticators are on this point.
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This is a problem we have on the ATMK. We spend an awful lot of time going back several pages to the original request to be able to link that post to the additions pictures that have been requested. This wastes a lot of time. Member will post a request with a link & we will request more pictures. When they get the bag, they just post the pictures with a comment like "Here it is" or "I got my bag" with no link or quote to their original request. I guess they think we're mind readers. :shrugs:
 
#759
deacc said:
I didn't want to do too many quotes so I will just quote this one and make some observation.

4. And finally another common problem in ATLV is when a poster is responding to an authenticators request for additional pics (usually upon receiving the item). The rule is that you should quote your original post (or provide a link), the authenticator's response to your original post and then the requested additional post. This way the authenticators can have everything together and review without having to waste time to back track. I am not sure how picky authenticators are on this point.
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cdtracing said:
This is a problem we have on the ATMK. We spend an awful lot of time going back several pages to the original request to be able to link that post to the additions pictures that have been requested. This wastes a lot of time. Member will post a request with a link & we will request more pictures. When they get the bag, they just post the pictures with a comment like "Here it is" or "I got my bag" with no link or quote to their original request. I guess they think we're mind readers. :shrugs:
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This is a forum-wide issue. Part of the problem (I believe) is that especially on the busier AT threads, users don't know how or can't find the original post because it might go back several pages or several days, so in addition to often not knowing how to multi-quote, there's a searching issue.

I'm not sure how to fix this problem but I'm guessing that's part of why it happens.
 
#760
cdtracing said:
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This is a problem we have on the ATMK. We spend an awful lot of time going back several pages to the original request to be able to link that post to the additions pictures that have been requested. This wastes a lot of time. Member will post a request with a link & we will request more pictures. When they get the bag, they just post the pictures with a comment like "Here it is" or "I got my bag" with no link or quote to their original request. I guess they think we're mind readers. :shrugs:
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BeenBurned said:
This is a forum-wide issue. Part of the problem (I believe) is that especially on the busier AT threads, users don't know how or can't find the original post because it might go back several pages or several days, so in addition to often not knowing how to multi-quote, there's a searching issue.

I'm not sure how to fix this problem but I'm guessing that's part of why it happens.
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You don't have to go back pages.
Only need two steps.
1. First go to "my profile", find the quote (under quotes tab) from the authenticator. From there you can go back to your original post (I find opening a new tab easiest)
2. Now click the multiquote on original then the quote one. Click post a reply and attach pics.
 
#761
cdtracing said:
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This is a problem we have on the ATMK. We spend an awful lot of time going back several pages to the original request to be able to link that post to the additions pictures that have been requested. This wastes a lot of time. Member will post a request with a link & we will request more pictures. When they get the bag, they just post the pictures with a comment like "Here it is" or "I got my bag" with no link or quote to their original request. I guess they think we're mind readers. :shrugs:
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What our authenticator in Chanel or LV did was to ask the member to link it back to their posts. It's easier for the member than the authenticator to track bAck. It's common sense, once u receive extra pictures, you need to link it to the listings so the authenticator can look at it in one post right?
 
#762
I asked weeks ago and never received a reply. Why do you have a Jewelry "authenticate this seller" thread without any rules? Anyone can authenticate I cannot believe what is going on in this thread.
 
#763
zippie said:
I asked weeks ago and never received a reply. Why do you have a Jewelry "authenticate this seller" thread without any rules? Anyone can authenticate I cannot believe what is going on in this thread.
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OMG - I just went over there to see what you were talking about - and yes, this needs to be stopped. Authenticating very expensive jewelry and saying it's real on the basis of 3 small blurry pictures . . . Wow - I kind of think we shouldn't have an authenticate this jewelry section unless it's going to be people that know what they are doing, and that care enough to ask for necessary pictures (and that don't basically say they own the exact same item as they are authenticating - over and over again) - Strains credibility to say the least.
 
#765
zippie said:
I asked weeks ago and never received a reply. Why do you have a Jewelry "authenticate this seller" thread without any rules? Anyone can authenticate I cannot believe what is going on in this thread.
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charleston-mom said:
OMG - I just went over there to see what you were talking about - and yes, this needs to be stopped. Authenticating very expensive jewelry and saying it's real on the basis of 3 small blurry pictures . . . Wow - I kind of think we shouldn't have an authenticate this jewelry section unless it's going to be people that know what they are doing, and that care enough to ask for necessary pictures (and that don't basically say they own the exact same item as they are authenticating - over and over again) - Strains credibility to say the least.
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Prada Psycho said:
I just read over it. I'm with you!

Starts at post #9010.

http://forum.purseblog.com/the-jewelry-box/authenticate-this-jewelry-or-seller-30027-601.html
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I'm glad that this issue was brought up.

I was going to use the AT jewelry thread a week or two ago ago but decided against doing so, as the member authenticating had only 15 posts. (While this member may/may not know jewelry, I just wasn't comfortable, no offense)
 
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