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#16
BeenBurned said:
I'd like tol add my 2-cents worth.

I think there are rude and entitled posters across the board. The differences I see on the brands i authenticate vs. the brands you've been discussing (Prada, Chanel) is in the mod/admin for that subforum. If the subforum has a mod who lets the authenticators take the lead and set the tone, everyone is a lot happier.

Some mods (who don't authenticate) allow their authenticators to set the pace so to speak. They allow the authenicators to apply their own guidelines, the authenticators can comment on seller histories, feedback, selling practices, etc.

With that freedom to post semi-OT discussions, the subforum is a lot friendlier, easy going and educational but rarely leads to the frustration and departure of authenticators as I've personally witnessed on other subforums.

When a mod isn't an authenticator, it's hard for them to understand and see things through the eyes of an authenticator. They view it as "rude" when an authenticator calls out a non-expert on an inaccurate opinion. They don't get why we ask for what we need to see and aren't fully aware of the amount of money involved (both to buyers and sellers), damages to reputations and the damage misinformation can cause when allowed to be posted unabated.

It comes as no surprise to non-authenticators that NOT anyone can step in an provide good accurate information. Authenticators have years of experience buying, selling, studying, fondling, carrying their items and they have electronic libraries with thousands of images. They have word documents up the wazoo with notes on exceptions to rules, date codes, factory codes, years that certain items were made, fonts, etc.

One can not just log in to TPF and start as an authenticator and give accurate information.

If TPF admin want to keep their knowledgeable experts and continue to have a reputation that members can get accurate information re authenticity, those unpaid volunteers need to be appreciated for the time and expertise they provide.
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#19
anitalilac said:
I see new members joining and just demanding free authentication and not following the formats and I always thought, there are formats to follow ..it won't take long to read...and our wonderful Authenticators patiently repeats the rule...You guys are angels!
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maybe it would be possible to start a new rule,
that NEW members have to have 20 Comments on other threads
before they can receive an authentication….
 
#21
JustAgUrL said:
maybe it would be possible to start a new rule,
that NEW members have to have 20 Comments on other threads
before they can receive an authentication….
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I don't like that idea.

I appreciate authenticating for newbies and most appreciate the help they get.

I think the issue (i.e. problem) is with non-expert authenticators. So many own one or two of (name your brand) item so think they know the brand.

Those are the authenticators who should prove themselves, perhaps stating "not expert but....." (Not sure how this would work. Just thinking out loud.)
 
#22
BeenBurned said:
I don't like that idea.

I appreciate authenticating for newbies and most appreciate the help they get.

I think the issue (i.e. problem) is with non-expert authenticators. So many own one or two of (name your brand) item so think they know the brand.

Those are the authenticators who should prove themselves, perhaps stating "not expert but....." (Not sure how this would work. Just thinking out loud.)
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this is VERY true..

actually, that is a good idea…
 
#23
BeenBurned said:
I don't like that idea.

I appreciate authenticating for newbies and most appreciate the help they get.

I think the issue (i.e. problem) is with non-expert authenticators. So many own one or two of (name your brand) item so think they know the brand.

Those are the authenticators who should prove themselves, perhaps stating "not expert but....." (Not sure how this would work. Just thinking out loud.)
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The thing is, at least in the LV forum, we have members that join and JUST request free authentications - either all in LV or across different brands. Even newbies, long time members as well.

When I came back after a couple years of absence, I made a post explaining who I was, that I used to help and was approved by Lee and Addy (the mods of the ATLV for those who don't know).

I don't care how well you think you know your brand, it is only polite to defer to those who have been here a long time, like your last sentence would indicate. Prove to us that you do indeed know it.
 
#24
missbanff said:
That, and frankly I think each sub-forum should have a "trusted authenticator" list, as determined by the mods or admins.
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Maybe that could be in members Titles, under your names?

The reason I suggest 20 comments, is that it is easy to rack up
20 comments on this forum….
and it gives Newbe's a chance to get to know the forum,
rather than just use it for their quick authentications only….


and it is a set RULE that coincides with the participating
in the forum….
 
#25
JustAgUrL said:
Maybe that could be in members Titles, under your names?

The reason I suggest 20 comments, is that it is easy to rack up
20 comments on this forum….
and it gives Newbe's a chance to get to know the forum,
rather than just use it for their quick authentications only….


and it is a set RULE that coincides with the participating
in the forum….
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Ha!

There was a complete jackass in the ATLV who put "LV authenticator" under their username. I don't know if they can fix it so it has to be put there by a moderator, but I would worry that just anyone would start calling themselves "approved authenticator". I do like the idea, though, if it is possible from a technology standpoint.

Oddlyenough....someone posted in the LV shopping section, asking how authenticators are approved here. Anyone who is interested - head on over and read it.
 
#26
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BeenBurned said:
I'd like tol add my 2-cents worth.

I think there are rude and entitled posters across the board. The differences I see on the brands i authenticate vs. the brands you've been discussing (Prada, Chanel) is in the mod/admin for that subforum. If the subforum has a mod who lets the authenticators take the lead and set the tone, everyone is a lot happier.

Some mods (who don't authenticate) allow their authenticators to set the pace so to speak. They allow the authenicators to apply their own guidelines, the authenticators can comment on seller histories, feedback, selling practices, etc.

With that freedom to post semi-OT discussions, the subforum is a lot friendlier, easy going and educational but rarely leads to the frustration and departure of authenticators as I've personally witnessed on other subforums.

When a mod isn't an authenticator, it's hard for them to understand and see things through the eyes of an authenticator. They view it as "rude" when an authenticator calls out a non-expert on an inaccurate opinion. They don't get why we ask for what we need to see and aren't fully aware of the amount of money involved (both to buyers and sellers), damages to reputations and the damage misinformation can cause when allowed to be posted unabated.

It comes as no surprise to non-authenticators that NOT anyone can step in an provide good accurate information. Authenticators have years of experience buying, selling, studying, fondling, carrying their items and they have electronic libraries with thousands of images. They have word documents up the wazoo with notes on exceptions to rules, date codes, factory codes, years that certain items were made, fonts, etc.

One can not just log in to TPF and start as an authenticator and give accurate information.

If TPF admin want to keep their knowledgeable experts and continue to have a reputation that members can get accurate information re authenticity, those unpaid volunteers need to be appreciated for the time and expertise they provide.
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Agree with everything you said:smile1:
 
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