Coming back to this to say I ended up downsizing my collection and I got rid of all my flap bags including my box bags and box bag dupes. The larger size was too big for me and the teen size held nothing. I just didn't reach for my flap bags because they were fussier to use than my
Polene Neuf and Polene Huit bags. I like a satchel and that's what I'm sticking to.
Doesn't stop me from looking at flap bags or other bags I know I won't like using and don't need. They won't bring me any added value over the bags I already have. My collection meets all my needs but the eyes wander...