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no, that's usual small size
probably the wider straps of weave make it look proportionally smaller
but actually it's not
I wonder how the butter calf wears, especially on the larger size? I've seen some pictures where the leather looks all wrinkled and crushed from heavy use.
Side note: Has anyone seen this "tan" coloured velvet calf intrecciato anywhere? What's the name of the shade?
Side note: Has anyone seen this "tan" coloured velvet calf intrecciato anywhere? What's the name of the shade?
I have a Bond Bag from around 2008 that has a similar closure and the leather folds in a similar way. It does have a bit of a crushed look to it, but then again it’s the Intrecciato Natte style weave so it pools a little differently. It doesn’t take away from the beauty of (my) bag, IMO
I think the top colour might be Wood?
I saw the Pouch in the wild for the first time. Someone was carrying the small butter calf Mist crossbody for his SO and he was wearing all black. My heart was racing at the thought of colour transfer. I still have doubts about the butter calf leather. It looks lovely and smooshy new but I'm afraid of all the creases and wrinkles over time. If I had to go for one it'd be an intreccio version. Has the Pouch been released in Bordeaux intreccio?
Also, not sure about the new arrivals. Seem to be more party season appropriate or something for an editorial. Also, what a weird name for a bag. The Sponge. It looks spongelike, I guess.
I'm pretty into the new Deep Blue colour. Hermes seems to have a new, similar shade of blue with the same name as well.
Also, not sure about the new arrivals. Seem to be more party season appropriate or something for an editorial. Also, what a weird name for a bag. The Sponge. It looks spongelike, I guess.
I'm pretty into the new Deep Blue colour. Hermes seems to have a new, similar shade of blue with the same name as well.
I was at the downtown Seattle Nordstom yesterday chatting with the SA there and she said they can’t keep the Pouch in stock. She says if she had four today, they’d be gone by the end of the day. The Arco is also selling like hot cakes.
The SA did say it was a younger demographic buying the new bags.
The SA did say it was a younger demographic buying the new bags.
I’m wondering if they are “new” customers, people who have never really purchased BV, or established customers? I’m guessing new...
I suppose they are attracting a whole new set of customers with the new designs (which is great for sales), but if they eliminate our beloved weave they risk losing our group (TM design fans) as a customer base.
Thanks for posting this. I like the deep blue color, too, but I'm still not sold on this style. That sponge in the white color looks useful (like a mop head, maybe....). The colorful ones are interesting enough that I'm curious to see it person--not to buy, but just to see how it was made. I'm a fan of the special leather finishes that BV had over the years with the Venetas, Cabats, Knots, and other bags, so that's my bias. The smooth butter calf reminds me of another bag style from the early 1980s with which I have a negative association, so I'd probably choose a woven, textured, or embellished one over plain butter calf in this style, if I had to choose.
That’s just it—I don’t think ‘they’ care about the TM design fans. If you think about it from a sales perspective, it may have been ‘us’ (where us is TM fans) that contributed to the decline in sales and BV needing to make a significant change. While ‘we’ may have money ‘we’ were apparently not spending enough of it. Or the pieces were classic enough where ‘we’ didn’t need to buy for the new season.
I sometimes feel like I’m really being tested as a BV loyalist. This sponge thing I cannot get.
I think they're primarily new (and younger) customers or Philophiles from Old Celine who dislike New Celine.
Just ended a live chat with an SA on the website. Sighs. No Bordeaux Intreccio. 
The Lauren in the classic Gigolo red was my original choice but I like how the Pouch is edgier, which is more my style. Amarante is a deep fuchsia, which I don't mind but I'm really after a rich, deep red.
The Lauren in the classic Gigolo red was my original choice but I like how the Pouch is edgier, which is more my style. Amarante is a deep fuchsia, which I don't mind but I'm really after a rich, deep red.
I think you’re right. I’ve read that spending usually tapers off around the age of 70.....and I’m only 6 months away from that. This isn’t the way I expected it to happen.
The question is:
1) Is my bag/shoe spending slowing down because I’m aging?
Or,
2) Is it slowing down because BV has decided to eliminate what I usually buy?
(I’m going with option #2
)
It’s sad that the parent corporation cares more about Celine’s heritage than they do about BV’s heritage. They can attract youth without severe trendy designs, I honestly don’t think many of these new bags will have much staying power.
I'm a Millenial (90's kid) and it's definitely #2. I've noticed brands going through cycles of hiring new designers if they're not iconic household names like Karl Lagerfeld (may he rest in peace) in order to attract a new and younger clientele. These days, the strategy is to "rebrand" an already existing brand with history and heritage into something hip and trendy. YSL dropped the 'Y' and became Saint Laurent Paris. Celine dropped the accent on the 'e'. LVMH and Kering basically gave Hedi Slimane carte blanche to redo both brands in his image. This is not to say rebranding is entirely a bad thing. Celine, for example, was a relatively quiet house unknown to the mass public before Phoebe Philo came along. But still, keeping the current client base happy is usually not their top priority as they figure the switch winnows out anyone who isn't 100% brand loyal. Nicolas Ghesquiere, for example, has runway pieces are mostly okay with a few standouts, and he has a very strong aesthetic identity but whatever is filtering down the main monogram collections is really very trendy and the collections change at the snap of my fingers. They're not as classic or timeless as before and certainly, plenty LVoers have felt left out considering how the designs are clearly geared towards a younger set. If you're looking for something more classic, the only real option is to drop more money on the leather designs they're pushing hard instead of the monogram canvas. At the end of the day, luxury brands only care about profits.I think you’re right. I’ve read that spending usually tapers off around the age of 70.....and I’m only 6 months away from that. This isn’t the way I expected it to happen.
The question is:
1) Is my bag/shoe spending slowing down because I’m aging?
Or,
2) Is it slowing down because BV has decided to eliminate what I usually buy?
(I’m going with option #2
There's not much left geared towards a more mature and stable clientele, except maybe Hermes. BV used to be part of that list too, and to some extent, Chanel for a time - ironically, before Karl's tenure as Creative Director.
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Staying power is no longer the name of the game in the age of Instagram.
But I do agree, it's a sad thing to see.