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I keep saying the Dallas media is creating all this drama. A lot of lies have been started and spread by them.
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Cuban on LO 'drama': "Most of the drama is on the outside rather that the inside. Lamar is a good guy. Guys in the locker room like him."
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Cuban said just bc there are a lot of tweets & nasty comments on msg boards about Odom doesn't mean there is any drama in the locker room.
Bryan Gutierrez ‏ @BallinWithBryan
Cuban on LO 'drama': "Most of the drama is on the outside rather that the inside. Lamar is a good guy. Guys in the locker room like him."
Bryan Gutierrez ‏ @BallinWithBryan
Cuban said just bc there are a lot of tweets & nasty comments on msg boards about Odom doesn't mean there is any drama in the locker room.
He said we are going to make the playoffs? that we have a chance to win it all? (i'm really asking) because thats what i'm talking about in terms of saying their.
If Lamar was one the most humble dude around then he would've handled the trade like Derek or Gasol or a # of other guys in the league who don't throw tantrums + mope. Dirk said Lamar was not putting in the extra work. Dirk is not a liar.
It's his job. I couldn't care less if he feels unhappy + unmotivated because Jack Nicholson is no longer in the stands watching him. He has been in this league many years. He has been traded before. He's not a child. At least try.
No they aren't. I live in NY + LO would've been eaten alive here. As he would've in LA, Philly, BOS, etc. The Mavs management, fans, even the beat writers have coddled him much more than most places would.
That first article was written by Dwain not Tim.
Eddie Sefko is also a mavs a** kisser. There is always one writer for every team that will write the PC pieces, spin, + shy away from the drama to become the team's mouthpiece, get the most access, + appeal to the players as someone to go to with exclusives. So the truth is usually in the middle of both of those articles (ie Sefko + Tim/Dwain, etc). Lamar is creating this drama not the media.
Didn't they try Lamar at backup PF as well, the same position he played in LA, + he still couldn't get it done?
The Mavs are #5 in the WC. There is no way they don't make the playoffs unless they go on an incredible losing streak which i doubt. They just beat HOU with Carlisle yanking Lamar again after he produced crap in 11 minutes.
I think Carlisle is done playing games. It's you produce, you play. Period.
I said Lamar was useless yesterday but i take that back. He does help in the sense to have an extra random body to throw out there so other players can get rest.
How does Cuban taking up for Odom mean the media is spreading lies? Carlisle also sung Lamar's praises, said he was getting so much better + then benched him. I don't take anything they say seriously.
They say his teammates like him which i don't doubt, but Dirk called him out for not working hard, Kidd called him out, etc. I'm sure they think he's a nice guy, but they still seem to be at a loss as to how to get him to join the team mentally + play better.
Even in this game while most of the players were standing on the bench during the one of the final defensive possessions, + i looked for Lamar + sure enough he was sitting down looking like meh.
I think the Mavs fans have summed up tonight's game
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And i picked one of the nicer quotes
Maybe it's my hardcore NBA fandom, but this situation is highly unusual + highly annoying and i'm not going to give him pass. All his tragedies probably wouldn't have stopped him from playing well in LA IMO. I get that there are fit issues + personal problems here, but where i draw the line is when i don't see effort. That isn't a product of a bad fit for a system.
I didn't watch the game but I think the lack of effort people get from him is because he is not a fit for their system and has problem finding his niche. So he looks uncomfortable out there but I do think he is trying when he is out there.
They have a legit chance not to make the playoffs since Clippers/Houston/Dallas/memphis/Utah/phoenix are all very close. The mavs have tough schedule with Houston back to back, then Orl, Miami (on the road) and then the clippers. The playoff is not guarantee for the team.
I think that is a fair approach with him. I would give him some back up minutes at the PF position and if he produce than he gets more but if he is playing like he is scared to shoot and not getting back in defense than he should be benched.
If anything this will get him to find ways to be more productive. But, the media especially ESPN Dallas needs to back off and let him find his niche. Some players it takes them a while, like a year to find their rhythm in a new team.
They have a legit chance not to make the playoffs since Clippers/Houston/Dallas/memphis/Utah/phoenix are all very close. The mavs have tough schedule with Houston back to back, then Orl, Miami (on the road) and then the clippers. The playoff is not guarantee for the team.
I think that is a fair approach with him. I would give him some back up minutes at the PF position and if he produce than he gets more but if he is playing like he is scared to shoot and not getting back in defense than he should be benched.
If anything this will get him to find ways to be more productive. But, the media especially ESPN Dallas needs to back off and let him find his niche. Some players it takes them a while, like a year to find their rhythm in a new team.
Playoffs aren't a guarantee for any team. I don't hear complaining around here, locally, about LO anymore than I hear about anyone else when they play weak or when new players w/ big personalties join the team and aren't amazing.
Dallas "fans" and residents aren't his problem.
Dallas "fans" and residents aren't his problem.
I think we are at an impasse here so agree to disagree.
I just don't think the Mavs will miss. The teams they are competing for spots against aren't that good. The clippers are having their own nervous breakdown, HOU could sneak in but not at DAL expense, Phx, Utah not at DAL expense either. Sure, it's possible, but to me it's just unlikely. They'd have to fall apart on an insane level.
I don't see why. He's no different than other player + will get reported on the same way. It's a business. There people aren't his "homeboys"
Khloe is going off on twitter again.
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I see all you snakes... Even when the grass ain't cut!
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Your knees are incredibly bruised! I recommend you stop sucking my... Ego
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@SlaveForKhloe hahahaha I'm erasing half of the things... They are too bad
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Hahahaha if I said half of the things I thought.... SMH I need to stop
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Having sisters are the BEST! Phone talk with @KourtneyKardash
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RME at the last one.
I agree, they likely will make the playoffs although they have a tough schedule for the rest of March and most of April.
Even if they make the playoffs, I really dont see them going far. The top 3 spots are pretty much set: OKC, Lakers and SA. If mavs meets the Lakers first round, they will get swept, guaranteed! I dont see them able to beat SA or OKC but it is not impossible if Dirk plays really well and two other players show up. If they meet clippers or Memphis, they have a pretty good chance of going into the second round.
The mavs going all the way is NOT happening, at least not this season.
He actually gets a lot more scrutiny than other players who have been traded and has problem fitting into a particular system. It has happenned a lot before and given no training camp, him being out of shape and coming into a team that is already set, some understanding would be in order. All of this drama and extra publicity is due to his association with the Kardashians and his reality show. If that was Lamar in 2009 prior to Khloe, sure some stories would have been written but this level of scrutiny and lack of sympathy would not have been the case.
There is nothing for Lamar to do at this point except keep his mouth shut and play hard whatever minutes he is given. He has two more months (if that) in Dallas and he will be bought out. His main loss is the fact that he is not going to go to the Olympics despite his superb play and leadership at the World championships. He needs to work on his game and find a team that suits him during the off season. He needs to cut tie with E! television so come October, he can start afresh.
Can someone explain the meaning of these tweets? I am loss
I agree, they likely will make the playoffs although they have a tough schedule for the rest of March and most of April.
Even if they make the playoffs, I really dont see them going far. The top 3 spots are pretty much set: OKC, Lakers and SA. If mavs meets the Lakers first round, they will get swept, guaranteed! I dont see them able to beat SA or OKC but it is not impossible if Dirk plays really well and two other players show up. If they meet clippers or Memphis, they have a pretty good chance of going into the second round.
The mavs going all the way is NOT happening, at least not this season.
He actually gets a lot more scrutiny than other players who have been traded and has problem fitting into a particular system. It has happenned a lot before and given no training camp, him being out of shape and coming into a team that is already set, some understanding would be in order. All of this drama and extra publicity is due to his association with the Kardashians and his reality show. If that was Lamar in 2009 prior to Khloe, sure some stories would have been written but this level of scrutiny and lack of sympathy would not have been the case.
There is nothing for Lamar to do at this point except keep his mouth shut and play hard whatever minutes he is given. He has two more months (if that) in Dallas and he will be bought out. His main loss is the fact that he is not going to go to the Olympics despite his superb play and leadership at the World championships. He needs to work on his game and find a team that suits him during the off season. He needs to cut tie with E! television so come October, he can start afresh.
Can someone explain the meaning of these tweets? I am loss
I actually disagree. When they played LAL they didn't have Marion, Haywood, etc Dirk was unusually awful. I think they have as good of a chance to come out of the West as anybody. I also think they could handle OKC. With the Lakers, they might have more of an issue but LAL is not unbeatable for them.
I don't think he gets any more criticism than any player who comes to a contending team coming of their best year + fails miserably. I do agree though that his reality TV show career has heightened things in some ways they wouldn't have been originally (ie his personal leave being extra scrutinized because of TMZ tracking down his dad, the numerous tab reports, etc) so in that sense yes he's getting hit from other angles but i do think major sports media has been more than fair. He should thank god he's not in a market that would absolutely rip him to shreds.
I agree with the bolded. His TV career doesn't help but if he can perform at a high level no one will care how many sex swings he's breaking on E!
Twitter can be confusing. Khloe is lashing out at the "haters" + i'm assuming she is making some reference to the backlash against Lamar since after she was done she simply tweeted Mrs. Odom.
I already un followed her, but i can't help checking her twitter during/after games sometimes. I can't help it.
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And totally OT but i've been trying to figure out for awhile if Khloe got a BBL because i don't remember her a** being this round or big. She's been caught wearing pads but i wonder if she got something more permanent now.
http://famousplastic.com/2011/10/15/khloe-kardashian-wears-padded-panties/
I posted the pics for those who hate links
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Idk. I think that might be it too with that pic (weight gain), but when i see her on the show sometimes i'm like woah where did that come from? BBL can be subtle + and used to get more volume + enhance the shape. Kim took it to the absolute extreme.
Like the pic below, I feel like she has so much more volume that she did. I think i noticed it when she was rocking some white pants on a KKTM epi + she was skinny then. It could be exercise, etc. I really can't tell.
Idk. I think that might be it too with that pic (weight gain), but when i see her on the show sometimes i'm like woah where did that come from? BBL can be subtle + and used to get more volume + enhance the shape. Kim took it to the absolute extreme.
Like the pic below, I feel like she has so much more volume that she did. I think i noticed it when she was rocking some white pants on a KKTM epi + she was skinny then. It could be exercise, etc. I really can't tell.
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