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Haven't worn Koi Kisses since the summer, so thought I'd share a pic today [emoji5] Hope all you jadies are doing well!
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Wow guys,

So I happened to have a UV torch at home (not sure if its long or short waves) and just did a quick check... these are the lavender and mossy ones under UV:

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My black bangle is on my arm so i just hovered the torch over, guess its too opaque to show anything even if it was impregnated :p does treated completely opaque jade show up neon as well?

Not sure if the lavender one has any signs of treatment since it seems like the whole piece is a singular glow (like how white paper glows under UV)...

I think i don't even need to spend money to get the mossy one tested any further, am very much convinced its not A jadeite unless someone else here thinks otherwise (maybe B+C since dyed + treated and much lighter in density than the other two?) and will get a refund from the seller.

Did I mention how awesome you guys are?! :heart::flowers:
 
I've learnt SO much this week and now just to find out what that webby surface means... JKP?? :biggrin:

Pitted, connected webby surface can mean treated jade - indication of bleach or chemicals of some sort to "clean" impurities or improve color/translucency. There are some good pictures in the jadeite reference thread of treated and A jadeite. It's a long thread, but worth it for the education and eye candy.

http://forum.purseblog.com/threads/jade-and-jadeite-photos-only-no-chat.855984/
 
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Congrats on your purchases, JadedJae! They are both lovely, though I'm sorry the mossy one turned out too good to be true. We've all been there [emoji53] -it's hard not to get caught up in the moment and keep a critical eye when buying jade!

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Hi Crosso,

Nah I'm actually terribly fortunate to have invaluable lessons right at the start of my journey (its only been a week since i got my first bangle, that black one!) and its all thanks to you guys :)) it doesn't matter so much to me as there are plenty of jade pieces out there to find ;)

Very pretty bangle!! It reminds me of autumn leaves falling into serene greenish water which i had the fortune of experiencing in Korea earlier this year :amuse:
 
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Pitted, connected webby surface can mean treated jade - indication of bleach or chemicals of some sort to "clean" impurities or improve color/translucency. There are some good pictures in the jadeite reference thread of treated and A jadeite. It's a long thread, but worth it for the education and eye candy.

http://forum.purseblog.com/threads/jade-and-jadeite-photos-only-no-chat.855984/

Thanks JKP! Great thread, its definitely not long comparing it with 823 pages on this one :p will surely take the time to go through it :)
 
Hey Jadies,

So i managed to do a quick density test on all three of my bangles at home (simple calculation of mass of bangle / weight of bangle in water) and while the black and lavender ones checked out at 3.28ish, the mossy one landed at 2.73 :/ Under the loupe which arrived today, i could make out a thin connected web on the surface per what JKP had described - what does this web signify?

I'm pretty much convinced that the mossy one is either treated or mixed with some other material (will likely request for a refund) but will get the lavender one tested since the density was higher and surface was smooth like my black one.. Am sooo glad to have you guys around to advise on what to look out for!! ;)

I've learnt SO much this week and now just to find out what that webby surface means... JKP?? :biggrin:
I would return the lavender one too if you found the mossy one to be not Grade A. Any seller that would sell a bangle that is not Grade A would sell others. I wouldn't trust her already. Sorry about that JadedJae. But as you say there are lots of others around. Just have to be careful. Hugs
 
I would return the lavender one too if you found the mossy one to be not Grade A. Any seller that would sell a bangle that is not Grade A would sell others. I wouldn't trust her already. Sorry about that JadedJae. But as you say there are lots of others around. Just have to be careful. Hugs

Thanks Silver Mom, its definitely a "once bitten twice shy" learning experience for me and the first & last time i'm dealing with this seller - no attractive price is worth the trouble and worry that comes from dealing with sellers who are less than transparent. Will surely be more careful with future buys :flowers:
 
Thanks Silver Mom, its definitely a "once bitten twice shy" learning experience for me and the first & last time i'm dealing with this seller - no attractive price is worth the trouble and worry that comes from dealing with sellers who are less than transparent. Will surely be more careful with future buys :flowers:
I myself was bitten too. That's how we learn. Lucky you caught it in time. I was lucky too. :smile:
 
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hi jadies! I'm really digging this conversation about jade and the inflation of prices. This is partially the reason I don't look too much at new jade bangles and started collecting vintage bits. Smoke was my last pricey bangle and I'm not willing to search and haggle anymore. It's too much uncertainty for me. Jade in the US like from Gump's & Mason Kay is too pricey, and trying to deal with language barriers and not get swindled is too much pressure.

Thankfully I haven't seen anything too tempting lately.
 
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I'm wondering though... I keep reading that the ban on importing ruby and jadeite from Burma will be overturned soon, I wonder if that is ever the case, if the jade trade in the US will change? I hope it would make the conditions under which jade is mined humane and instead of horrific.

Thinking about the diamond analogy for jade is helpful, too. There is so much difference in marketing and quality of diamonds... like the difference in price/quality of brick & mortar mom & pop jeweler, to something online like Blue Nile and White Flash or big (but way overpriced) like Zales or marked up for a designer name such as Tiffany or Harry Winston.... and of course, buying diamond district or antique or vintage.

And yet, at least with diamond you have an agreed upon grading system... with jadeite there are so many more factors.

Here's Baby Princess and a leather bracelet. I think I could be tempted by a small lavender princess in about this size, but my pocket book is empty so I won't go a-hunting. haha
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I'm wondering though... I keep reading that the ban on importing ruby and jadeite from Burma will be overturned soon, I wonder if that is ever the case, if the jade trade in the US will change? I hope it would make the conditions under which jade is mined humane and instead of horrific.

Thinking about the diamond analogy for jade is helpful, too. There is so much difference in marketing and quality of diamonds... like the difference in price/quality of brick & mortar mom & pop jeweler, to something online like Blue Nile and White Flash or big (but way overpriced) like Zales or marked up for a designer name such as Tiffany or Harry Winston.... and of course, buying diamond district or antique or vintage.

And yet, at least with diamond you have an agreed upon grading system... with jadeite there are so many more factors.

Here's Baby Princess and a leather bracelet. I think I could be tempted by a small lavender princess in about this size, but my pocket book is empty so I won't go a-hunting. haha
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The ban on US imports has been overturned. President ***** signed the executive order earlier this fall...it is now ok to import both Jadeite and Rubies from Burma into the US. Here is a link to the action: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/pages/burma.aspx
 
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The ban on US imports has been overturned. President ***** signed the executive order earlier this fall...it is now ok to import both Jadeite and Rubies from Burma into the US. Here is a link to the action: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/pages/burma.aspx
Does anyone know then if sanctions have ended whether prices for jadeite will be lowered. I heard somewhere that this still will not be the case because the jade market is now controlled by people similar to what the diamond market has. They will not release the jadeite when the prices are low but when the prices go up they then will release it.
 
hi bernie! I always love when you post...so much to learn! Your bangle and pendant look like they came from the same stone.

I absolutely love how the LV VVN leather bracelet resembles their signature luggage tags :smile:

Thank you! I got into LV for a little bit once I started posting on tpf, but it was after the production of this bracelet. I wound up stalking ebay for about 2-3 years before I found one that was in good shape and not too pricey. It's harder for me to spend money on non-jade jewelry now. haha

The ban on US imports has been overturned. President ***** signed the executive order earlier this fall...it is now ok to import both Jadeite and Rubies from Burma into the US.

Ah! I hadn't been checking in on that recently. but glad to see it was overturned! I wonder how it will affect the market.
 
Does anyone know then if sanctions have ended whether prices for jadeite will be lowered. I heard somewhere that this still will not be the case because the jade market is now controlled by people similar to what the diamond market has. They will not release the jadeite when the prices are low but when the prices go up they then will release it.
The sanctions ended back in October...As to the market prices, that's anyone's guess...I don't know enough about the trading of jadeite on the world markets.
 
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