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Hi jade mommy , I bought my blue princess from elegant artifacts on etsy. I asked about the provenance of the bangle and she told me that she got it from a jeweler friend in San Francisco in 1970. She has a lot of gorgeous jade on her site . She told me this was from her own personal collection but that it didn't fit anymore . This is the sale picture from etsy.
Such a pretty soft blue!





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Here is another picture of my bangle. For some reason the colours are not coming out accurately. It's bluish lavender with a few pale green patches. What do you think Jadies- does it look like untreated jadeite? It's is semi translucent. I like d shape bangles but I find this one too flat. I prefer higher domed d shape or princess. Like I said it was one of my first buys. Let me know what you think please 😊
It looks like A grade jadeite to me from your pics. Lovely!
 
Thank you to everyone who replied about bangle A and B. I was pretty set on B until I found out I'll be visiting Hong Kong in two months. My FIL is a jade collector and has a lot more knowledge than I do. Should I just wait and purchase one in HK so I can try and see it in person? I don't want to purchase a bangle online now and fall in love with another piece a few months later as I want this to be an everyday piece.
Dster, if I were in your shoes, I would wait. It will be so fun to be able to walk around looking for that bangle by which you will always remember your trip. I think buying jade in person is loads of fun! I agree, that if the one you wanted is meant for you, it will also be there when you return, or something else fated to be yours after your trip. If you decide to get it, then also know that you WILL want to buy more in HK lol! How exciting! Please keep us posted of the good, bad, and the impressions in between when you go?
 
Piosavsfan, I am sorry that you were not completely happy with it. I agree with the others that it takes time to get to know your online purchases, and therefore would wait a few days before you decide to keep or return it. I think it looks lovely on you, truly.

It's happened to me a few times, that the bangle was different then the sense of it which I had imagined based on pictures. This is because jade bangles have such personality which cannot be captured in photos. My biggest peice of advice to online buyers..is to keep an open mind to see what you actually got, and forget about the idea you had for a day. Then see if it moves you.

Personally I think it's lovely in color and a good fit too. a shallow stone line would not necessarily bother me...but that's something which only you can decide based on where it is and so on.

Polish can sometimes be less than perfect. This is sometimes caused by sloppy craftsmanship, but also can also be caused because of a larger grain, and undercutting. This happens when the other silica minerals surrounding the jadeite crystals have not meshed in as tight a manner as possible. Jadeite has to have 80% jadeite to be called jade...which means that up to 20% is other stone. Jadeite is an agglomerate stone, which means a lot of stuff pressed together that crystalized. The other minerals are not as hard, and polish away more quickly then the jade, which leads to undercutting. It looks like orange peel skin, or sometimes little divots.
 
jademommy, what a gorgeous bangle! Thanks for the compliments!

Regarding the changing of jadeite with wear, I personally do believe that it happens. Mainly because I've seen very slow and subtle changes in mine, but also because jadeite was formed with low heat, high pressure, and the colors seep in. This is not unlike being on the warm skin, with a steady supply of oils and water with minerals coming in through the pores. But, this process would take years to become visually pronounced. We get to be the observers, and compare pictures in 10 years to see if there are differences!
 
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I'm not really sure how to describe it but there are a couple of scratches/dents that are visible to the naked eye that bother me the most. Also, the lavender and green sides are not the same width and thickness, the green side is at least a couple of mm thicker/wider. I think it's going back. I have to contact him within 24 hrs based on his return policy.
 
jademommy, what a gorgeous bangle! Thanks for the compliments!

Regarding the changing of jadeite with wear, I personally do believe that it happens. Mainly because I've seen very slow and subtle changes in mine, but also because jadeite was formed with low heat, high pressure, and the colors seep in. This is not unlike being on the warm skin, with a steady supply of oils and water with minerals coming in through the pores. But, this process would take years to become visually pronounced. We get to be the observers, and compare pictures in 10 years to see if there are differences!

Yes so many people do believe and I read conflicting views on the internet with valid explanations why it does change colour and valid reasons why it does not. With a pendant it is constantly touching one'a skin but with a bangle it is less constant as it rotates and so I just feel it would have to take a really really long time. I do want to believe though because it's so interesting and unique to jade. My dad has been wearing his pendant for over 35 years and the green is more intense and bright. The longest I have continually worn the same piece of jade is my everyday bangle since Dec 2014 and so perhaps I have to wait a while:) It does seem more translucent though.
One more thought that crossed my mind is that since the green from jade has chromium would it "help" with weight loss ?or the red jade rich in iron could help those with low iron levels.... Do the minerals seep into the jade as well as out from the jade? Maybe not but who knows 😉
 
Piosavsfan, ok that's a bit much. I would also be bothered by the difference in size on each end. You clearly are not impressed, so back it goes. A better bangle is waiting.

Has anyone else noticed these kinds of "flaws" with that seller?
 
Jade mommy, good questions. I don't know, but I imagine that the minerals which seep in during pressure and crystal growth, get bound on a molecular level to the crystal lattice. Perhaps those that come in after it's crystalized are more mobile, being in the surrounding silica. Maybe that explains why 'color roots' are known for spreading over time with water and wear.

I suppose those could seep out, but I imagine that the amount is tiny enough, that it wouldn't make much difference to the human body. But that's just my guess, and those are interesting questions.
 
Jade mommy, good questions. I don't know, but I imagine that the minerals which seep in during pressure and crystal growth, get bound on a molecular level to the crystal lattice. Perhaps those that come in after it's crystalized are more mobile, being in the surrounding silica. Maybe that explains why 'color roots' are known for spreading over time with water and wear.

I suppose those could seep out, but I imagine that the amount is tiny enough, that it wouldn't make much difference to the human body. But that's just my guess, and those are interesting questions.

Claire thank you for your input. It is so interesting because I have also heard of people wearing jade for their health and that different colours of jade aid with different health / body parts. Also many Chinese believe in yin / yang, heating and cooling properties of jade. I think the darker jade is more yin (cooling) and the lighter coloured jade is yang (warming). Maybe when one wears a particular colour of jade that correlates to a health benefit that they particularly need they feel better....
I try to get as intuned as I can with my jade. I can not say that I notice anything healthwise but I do notice the "attachment" I feel to certain pieces. Also looking at my bangles throughout the day makes me happy :smile1:
 
Need some advice, jadies - I love the color and plumpness of this little apple pendant. But it does not have a hole for a bale. Would one have to be drilled or would a pinch bail hold it securely enough? I think it would be a great match for my bangle, but it seems pricey to me ($250) for the size (19mm). Is lavender just becoming that much more in demand than it used to be? Seems prices have gone up and up.
 

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Need some advice, jadies - I love the color and plumpness of this little apple pendant. But it does not have a hole for a bale. Would one have to be drilled or would a pinch bail hold it securely enough? I think it would be a great match for my bangle, but it seems pricey to me ($250) for the size (19mm). Is lavender just becoming that much more in demand than it used to be? Seems prices have gone up and up.
Did you ask the seller if it has a hole? I saw this one and it's really cute.
 
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