Great info to know. Thanks for sharing. Never thought of this in this way before.
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I see it as a deep red under this lighting! I have seen a bangle that’s said to be red but when I saw it in IRL, it was more a reddish brown. It didn’t look like a rich red like yours. Jade is a chameleon indeed!
If the bangle can go on, it can come off. At worst maybe need to plunge my hands into cold water but I don’t think will be a problem to take off if soap is used.
Ya it was a memorable experience...
Definitely considered red jadeite? I think red jadeite comes in a variety of colors.
@Silver Mom , yes, please ask Alice. @VintageyGirl and I would love to know. I would say your bangle is red jade - oh so gorgeous. I believe my ring and other brownish yellowish orangish jades can be refer to as honey jade.
It is so nice to have a seller you trust so that it takes all the anxiety out of buying (e.g. no worries about if you're buying Grade A jade or not because you alreadyknow you are). You're able to just focus on the fun part of choosing a jade item that draws you.
I think red jadeites has so many hues which gradates in tones . Red , yellows , browns and oranges . All belong to the same family I was told , while having a chat with the gemologist once .
To have a completely, uniformly evenly red / yellow or oranges, untreated pieces of jadeite is fairly expensive.
Because red/yellows / oranges / browns tends to occur near upper crust / portions of jade border .
As such. Due to these properties of red jade . Some jade vendors have used modern technology to intensify the color of red jade through heat treatment to intensify the color.
Although heat treatment doesn’t cause the internal structure of jadeite to change ( they are still technically Grade A )
However the heat will cause the jade to become intensified in its shade , and become brittle and dry .
It is not easy to distinguish however , if heat is due to nature as in if red jadeite is mined near volcanic lava existing areas , natural heat from the ground does have its bearing in creating natural specimens that intensify its iron elements ( creating its redder shades )
This is nature .
However , artificial means , of heating up Red jadeite boulders likely dumping the jade boulder in furnace ( can also )create this effect ( red intensification ) .
But , a trip to the gemologist will help . Although there are no current methods to give an outright answer what kind of heat treatment or if any is subjected to . It’s very doubtful a gemologist will just give a Grade A to red jade without first including some remarks about its brittle or dry state (if observed ) . If it is heat treated , it’s likely not to have the moist, shiny appearance but that with pits and surface cracks , dryness observed .
To have a completely, uniformly evenly red / yellow or oranges, untreated pieces of jadeite is fairly expensive.
Because red/yellows / oranges / browns tends to occur near upper crust / portions of jade border .
As such. Due to these properties of red jade . Some jade vendors have used modern technology to intensify the color of red jade through heat treatment to intensify the color.
Although heat treatment doesn’t cause the internal structure of jadeite to change ( they are still technically Grade A )
However the heat will cause the jade to become intensified in its shade , and become brittle and dry .
It is not easy to distinguish however , if heat is due to nature as in if red jadeite is mined near volcanic lava existing areas , natural heat from the ground does have its bearing in creating natural specimens that intensify its iron elements ( creating its redder shades )
This is nature .
However , artificial means , of heating up Red jadeite boulders likely dumping the jade boulder in furnace ( can also )create this effect ( red intensification ) .
But , a trip to the gemologist will help . Although there are no current methods to give an outright answer what kind of heat treatment or if any is subjected to . It’s very doubtful a gemologist will just give a Grade A to red jade without first including some remarks about its brittle or dry state (if observed ) . If it is heat treated , it’s likely not to have the moist, shiny appearance but that with pits and surface cracks , dryness observed .
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Great summary!
The kind of watery red that I like is quite unaffordable so I’ve decided that other colored stones in my collection can fill the red/orange gap.
I thought this pendant is quite a stunning example of red jadeite
That sounds awful. I think I would have screamed if a salesperson grabbed my hand like that with the ongoing pandemic. And by right, he should have just asked to see your hand to see if it's soft or not - don't have to press.
I have asked them on WhatsApp before about icy bangles. No wonder no options were forthcoming! But recently I did buy a bluish green and yellow bangle from them with some snowflakes which I saw on their website.
When I was there in 2019, the salesperson was ok. Held my hand to relax me before putting on the bangle. He said I have soft hands just by looking at them. I was interested in 2 bangles then but one was nearly twice the price of the other so I went for the cheaper option and also bought a mystic knot from them.
Do you have many jade shops in Msia where you can look at the jade in person? Nowadays there are many independent sellers in Singapore that operate online on Instagram etc but you can view in person before commuting. Yes I always always try to look at anyone’s jade bangle even those on older ladies
I have been to only 1 but I don't think I will go again. Quite pricey for the quality. I mean I love my oval lavender bangle but I think that the salesperson has a "disabling technique" which means to put the bangle on your wrist before you've had the chance to feel it with both hands and your fingernails. There are quite a few surface stonelines which I didn't notice as a result and it doesn't feel as smooth as all my other bangles. Also, the seller was so enthusiastic (and so was I because it was my first time in a jade shop) that I tried on way too many bangles that day and had a bruised left hand for 8 weeks. My hubby put some traditional Chinese medicine on my hand which made the external bruising go away but my hand still hurt.
This is very pretty !
yes full translucent icy reds are very very $$$ . But as with all jade , I think if it’s something I would buy to wear or keep or even sell . I would bring it to NGi ( nan Yang Gemological institute )for a look over to ensure it’s not treated .
I m just paranoid that way . Because learnt quite abit along the way about the stuff that can be done to jade.
My one and only jade pendent. I love it so much and permanently wear it. Icy jadeite. Lol, I named it Golden Eyes from Yeh-Shen. The little bones of the body is not stationary and moves independently form each other. 
Oh wow, thank you for the info. Didn't think about looking at Mason Kay chart. In this morning's light, I would say it is number 27 but in other bright sun light it looks similar to 26. This is a great chart to refer to. Thank you so much.
Thank you Bernie. I shall now call you the jade dictionary. Appreciate this info.