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This is the untouched photo of the hetia blue glow under UV. It does not look that deep a blue in person but this is how the camera catches it..The funny thing is only part of it glows the blue...

I wish I could figure out these things but its not a reliable test but it can give one a direction.

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Your dark blue hetian just looks like its reflecting the uv light. Still part of my hetian is a beige yellow color under UV.

Some yellows on jadeite do glow under uv light from my experience, but usually in specks. I honestly don't know what to say. I didn't think hetian glowed under uv light. I wish I could be of more help.
 
Camelot, re: glowing of your bangle-- AFAIK, nephrite is inert under both shortwave and longwave UV. What does it look like under 10x magnification? SG?
I had it under 15X & under a gemscope. I can't really see into it. I can see a few of the brown inclusions which are sort of like a radiating pattern. There is alot of pitting on the surface too but I have that on the green portions of my green /white bangle but the white on that bangle is not as marked only the green portions.

I did read nephrite did not glow but that was only one article. Looks like its glowing compared to the rest & I can see a little mottled glow in other places faintly on it too but that big blue chunk just stands out.

I did use a dentist pick on the jade pendant. I guess I was bad ut I wanted to see if it glowed under the wax.
 
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Its from a trusted seller who says they got it from a very trustworthy source. They said they were not aware of ant treatment being done to nephrite.

There is a line bordering the blue region but I found some other light blue mottling
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Darn can't find it now..
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I had trouble getting it...I think I have bad jade kharma...:sick:
 
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Its from a trusted seller who says they got it from a very trustworthy source. They said they were not aware of ant treatment being done to nephrite.

There is a line bordering the blue region but I found some other light blue mottling
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Darn can't find it now..
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I had trouble getting it...I think I have bad jade kharma...:sick:

I can see it much better in these pictures. It does look like it is fluorescing, clearly blue too.

I UV’ed all my hetian and none of them glowed either. I have never seen that before. I wonder if any other Jadies hetian purchases glow?

I’m so sorry you are having bad luck with your jade purchases. It’s a good thing you put the UV light on it, now you know it’s treated in some form or fashion.
 
Its from a trusted seller who says they got it from a very trustworthy source. They said they were not aware of ant treatment being done to nephrite.

There is a line bordering the blue region but I found some other light blue mottling
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Darn can't find it now..
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I had trouble getting it...I think I have bad jade kharma...:sick:

I brightened my screen so I could see better and the part that isn’t glowing blue, look like and orange brown glow. I don’t see that on any of my hetian bangles either. That is totally freaking me out. None of the pieces I have purchased from her have glowed, but I will definitely UV mine when it comes Monday.
 
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I brightened my screen so I could see better and the part that isn’t glowing blue, look like and orange brown glow. I don’t see that on any of my hetian bangles either. That is totally freaking me out. None of the pieces I have purchased from her have glowed, but I will definitely UV mine when it comes Monday.

I'm pretty sure yours was a different lab if you got the 56 x 19mm. Its on a red background. I think I posted it about a week ago when I was thinking about it....Then there was the one with the side that was cut close to the skin & had some brown...so guess that was natural...LOL
Got it translated...no SG or RI


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Why is this one glowing blue???

I'm glad all yours are inert but true to form I have had the worst 2 years...Got hit by a car that ran over my foot which crippled me so I had to delay cancer surgery. Had cancer & chemo so guess a little thing liek a glowing bangle should not bother me so much...:sick:

She said she'd refund me minus shipping so I have the but I just feel bad about everything though its not my fault..She guarantees her jade is natural & if I recall thats not just for 30 days...The bangle was from a very reliable source but that blue could be a problem.

Yeah the other part is a beigy color but it does not appear to be glowing it just looks that color & the bangle is a greenish white so not sure where the brownish color is coming from. It bothers me that there is such a distinct line of demarcation between the brown & blue as natural things don't frequently make straight lines & are more random. Figures I'd get the lucky one that slipped thru the cracks. I put a flashlight behind to illuminate it & the is not blue or brown like that inside so its some sort of reaction to the UV. I feel bad as I "insisted" I buy it...LOL Not my fault its glowing & trying to figure what natural thing could cause that. It does have a crystal structure & elements in the crystal structure can make the different jade colors but what could glow like that & mostly in that 1/3 area. Still if it was treated I would imagine it should glow all over it not just in one spot unless they suspended it on a string & dipped it partially but with would they do that for as its less labor intense to throw the whole thing in a tub of acid. I really don;t know what to think but I have no time for any homemade tests & I spent hours today with the camera & UV & trying to resrach & I am supposed to be packing as I leave the country Tuesday. I don't even have much time should I return it but that blue patch is one of the oddest things I;ve come across so maybe the nephrite./hetian people with uv lights can take a peek at there stash...

I never expected this...I love looking through all the jade bangles & picked one out & I get the strange one just my luck! Guess I should be more worried that the plane does not take a dive in the pacific...Gosh poor mom!

The other part really looks a tannish color but lightens up when you put the uv behind it...I'm not worried about the tan as it looks inert but the blue is disturbing.
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Wow...The Hope diamond glows red under UV! Some diamonds will glow blue/purple...hmmm don;t see nay diamond in the bangle..wouldn;t that be nice to have a 20 carat in there!!! LOL

If the bangle is truly natural it would be a really exciting thing to know that blue element is in there glowing unless it radioactive...just my luck again! :cool:

I like the one of a kind rare/ differents as I'll never have the Hope Diamond or maybe even ever see it!

https://insider.si.edu/2009/08/blue...erie-red-after-exposure-to-ultraviolet-light/
 
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Well, got more photos for tomorrow. The other portion is glowing a tannish dark mustard color while the other sections looks more light blue. Don't think its a treated pattern but this bangle is a real mystery!

No nice ring...more of a thunk...

Not going back to ebay for a while...Need a break but not a bangle.
 
I'm pretty sure those brown spots are natural inclusions which probably would not be there is it was treated & how could they or why would they waste time treating only 1/3 of a bangle. I'm pretty sure its natural but I just find it very odd & am trying to know why as its sort of almost extraordinary...Fascinating that inner glow she really does have!!!!

I am not sure I am remembering this right but I think treated jade can still have brown but the grey would get bleached out? So if you find black or grey inclusions that means it's not bleached but you can see brown and it may still have been?
 
I had it under 15X & under a gemscope. I can't really see into it. I can see a few of the brown inclusions which are sort of like a radiating pattern. There is alot of pitting on the surface too but I have that on the green portions of my green /white bangle but the white on that bangle is not as marked only the green portions.

I did read nephrite did not glow but that was only one article. Looks like its glowing compared to the rest & I can see a little mottled glow in other places faintly on it too but that big blue chunk just stands out.

I did use a dentist pick on the jade pendant. I guess I was bad ut I wanted to see if it glowed under the wax.

Good morning Camelotshadowjade! I am sorry this is happening! I hope I can offer some insight, but this is only from my knowledge and not rule of law :smile:

Nephrite is inert under UV light, and shouldn't glow at all. It's notoriously difficult to dye, bleach, or impregnate due to its structure of tightly interlocking stone fibers (which is also the reason its tougher than jadeite). So as a result, nephrite is usually substituted rather than treated. My guess is that your piece might not be nephrite, but a treated agate, onyx, or a type of quartz. Stone treatment and substitution has been perfected over the years and can look pretty close to the real thing whether it has a certificate or not.

I know this is easier said than done, but try not to feel bad. This is all a part of the crazy maze of buying nephrite/jadeite. I'd say get in touch with the seller as soon as possible and return for a refund - but I wouldn't fuss with him/her about them knowing whether or not it's real. Speaking generally, most people selling stone jewelry these days are 3rd party sellers who have very little intimate knowledge of the pieces they're selling. Just try to find reputable sellers you can trust - that will remove some of the hair-pulling of this experience.

Trust me - I feel your pain. It's hard when you spend hard-earned money (and emotional investment) for an item and it isn't what it should be - but it does get better :cool:
 
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@camelotshadowjade : sorry you’ve been getting bad luck with this, hopefully it’s all up from here!

I am not sure I am remembering this right but I think treated jade can still have brown but the grey would get bleached out? So if you find black or grey inclusions that means it's not bleached but you can see brown and it may still have been?

I think that can make sense for two reasons:
1. The different coloured impurities might mean different compounds and some would have better adhesion to the jade than others. I suspect acid treatment would attack at specific types of bonding over others.
2. Possibly brown staining might be residue of treating the black bits out.

I should dig around to see if there have been journals talking about elements in jade impurities to colouring.

I went to an antique and vintage show recently and did locate a few ‘jade’ pieces (sorry, no photos, it was crowded I barely got to squish myself between people just flag down shop owners to get me a closer look). I wasn’t expecting much but it was disheartening that any piece I checked was iffy (mostly in weight and look of some - some lavender jades that were bright purple). There was a booth with lots of jade peices and at first I was really excited until I was handed a lavender jade bangle that was very very likely to be... glass (it had a horizontal streak of transparent window and no signs of granules anywhere and they were asking for $200). I even asked if they’ve been tested and they’ve replied “ya, ya, all tested” and I just had to walk away because it just didn’t sit right with me.

Again, I wasn’t expecting much of fine jewelry at a show like this but some of them were pushing precious gems I thought I’d give it a chance. Back to waiting for the actual gem show in town next month (I’d expect better results then!)
 
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