The Dior Diorama Thread

[Hazzelnut]

OMG yes we are twins!!! Don’t you just love how edgy the combination is! It was my first Dior purchase too (other than a few cardholders / wallets). I own a gunmental ABC Lady Dior and the same in Cerise red. I thought it was too dressy as I too am casual always in jeans etc, but I tried it on at home and it can look edgy especially the small size with the thick strap or the uktraMatte version. That said I didn’t wear the first one enough due to 2020 lockdowns in the UK. I got the red one because I always wanted a red bag and had a big voucher - so invested in a classic

For what it’s worth twin, if a lady dior is on your mind a lot get one (price keeps increasing), in the future you will find ways to wear it

The gunmetal and red (although cherry red) LDs are the two I’ve been debating over. We definitely are twins!

I think you might have sold me on the red ABC! Although I promised to try and make myself wait until later in the year to try and spread out purchases, especially as delivery to Northern Ireland is ridiculously messed up with Brexit and the seeming misunderstanding about non-existent UK borders

 

[averagejoe]

I partially agree about the outlet, the only positive about it is if a brand uses it as a way to *only* sell little unsold stock instead of burning it etc. Ultimately I would rather they reduced production and limit accessibility like you said so there isn’t a lot of waste. I like Hermes special order strategy.

the LD will never go to the outlet, it’s the other styles like the new Caro, 30 Montaigne, that I would worry about.

The Youtuber Emma Anders recently made a video on bags and she mentioned how it is annoying that both her Dior bags are in the UK outlet now, knowing someone got it cheaper and rather stick to buying Lady Dior. I agree with her I had a birthday voucher from Dior and wanted to get a different bag initially as I already own a LD, but decided to stick with it and buy a second one instead because I don’t want to buy something trendy that may get devalued

Thank you and love this discussion

I completely agree. I am a die-hard Dior fan, but choosing to buy items full priced is sometimes difficult, because I have to gamble on the idea that the item may not go on sale. If it has a chance of being marked down, or going to the outlet, I would not want to buy it full priced. It's not like I can't wait. I don't need new arrivals when they are new. I aim to buy what I like, and I usually don't use the item right away anyway. Sadly, on the men's side, there isn't even a "Lady Dior" equivalent. I hope the men's Saddle is their evergreen, and that they won't discount that. But who knows.

However, several brands are a lot worse. Dior is one of the better ones with this. I love Valentino but I will never buy them full priced. Their items get marked down all of the time. I don't even know what is classic at that brand. My second favourite brand is Saint Laurent, but talk about not being able to control their discounts (either with authorized retailers or through them directly). I have purchased near full price for Saint Laurent, but those are all a gamble too. Even Gucci sends a lot of their items to the outlet. The safest best is LV, or as you said, Hermes special order (or their Kelly, Birkin, and Constance).

I love this discussion, too. I would prefer it if none of the luxury brands ever discounted their items, and if they didn't overproduce their stock.

 

[averagejoe]

Ooh, what one did you go for / already own? My black Diorama with SHW (we’re twins!) is my only Dior bag, but I definitely want to expand as the quality is fantastic. Worried a LD would be too formal for my casual jeans and t shirt style...

Would you be interested in their Lady Dior D'Lite, which looks super chic and casual?

 

[Hazzelnut]

Would you be interested in their Lady Dior D'Lite, which looks super chic and casual?

I’m a bit worried about it being fabric, otherwise I’d snap one up. We get a lot of rain and I think I’d be too scared to take it out.

 

[roxta]

My best friend gets invited to Dior friends and family sales and I think that some items are discounted up to 80%. To me, it doesn't matter how brands decide to get rid off unsold stock as long as they don't do it in a way that harms the environment (because that makes me very sad). I heard that many brands "dispose" of a lot, if not all unsold stock instead of selling at a discount in order to maintain value. The thought of incinerating or worse, dumping items in a landfill - I personally find this to be tragic.

 

[Purses & Perfumes]

My black Diorama with SHW (we’re twins!) is my only Dior bag, but I definitely want to expand as the quality is fantastic. Worried a LD would be too formal for my casual jeans and t shirt style...

I have a mostly casual jeans and T shirt style (with a blazer or coat thrown on during colder weather), and the Lady Dior does not feel too formal at all, especially the medium size, which is what I have. The mini which comes with the chain strap is more suited for evening wear, but the ABC or small size Lady Dior is very versatile because it can go easily from day time casual to evening, and fits all the essentials.

I too love the Diorama, and I've been eyeing the Dior Caro and hoping they will keep it around for a while. It would be nice to have a chain strap shoulder bag in the classic lambskin cannage quilting as a permanent line at Dior. Great discussions in this thread!

 

[Gigi_90]

The gunmetal and red (although cherry red) LDs are the two I’ve been debating over. We definitely are twins!

I think you might have sold me on the red ABC! Although I promised to try and make myself wait until later in the year to try and spread out purchases, especially as delivery to Northern Ireland is ridiculously messed up with Brexit and the seeming misunderstanding about non-existent UK borders

Awww this is so cool! Handbag twin indeed!!! Nothing wrong with waiting especially in this environment with Brexit /lockdown :S btw I think the cherry red on the website has the same colour code as mine- although on the sticker it said cerise. Last year their cherry red was a brighter red more orangy in colour

 

[Gigi_90]

I completely agree. I am a die-hard Dior fan, but choosing to buy items full priced is sometimes difficult, because I have to gamble on the idea that the item may not go on sale. If it has a chance of being marked down, or going to the outlet, I would not want to buy it full priced. It's not like I can't wait. I don't need new arrivals when they are new. I aim to buy what I like, and I usually don't use the item right away anyway. Sadly, on the men's side, there isn't even a "Lady Dior" equivalent. I hope the men's Saddle is their evergreen, and that they won't discount that. But who knows.

However, several brands are a lot worse. Dior is one of the better ones with this. I love Valentino but I will never buy them full priced. Their items get marked down all of the time. I don't even know what is classic at that brand. My second favourite brand is Saint Laurent, but talk about not being able to control their discounts (either with authorized retailers or through them directly). I have purchased near full price for Saint Laurent, but those are all a gamble too. Even Gucci sends a lot of their items to the outlet. The safest best is LV, or as you said, Hermes special order (or their Kelly, Birkin, and Constance).

I love this discussion, too. I would prefer it if none of the luxury brands ever discounted their items, and if they didn't overproduce their stock.

Totally at least Dior are more consistent.... maybe we can convince them to have a permanent men’s line and bring back diorama?

Valentino cant decide their identity it seems, I stick to shoes and have one tote and nothing more. Saint Laurent was the biggest shocker for me .. brought two *classic* saint Laurent bags, one Sac de jour (close to retail) and the other from the outlet (a real python sunset) I tried consigning them to see what I can get, prices I was offered were very low not even 30% of retail.. SAs keep saying they will make their classic unattainable and never discounted like Chanel but I guess given COVID they changed their mind...

 

[chopchep]

A beautiful bag indeed, everyone asks for it in store now! I queried whether they can bring it back on their VIP Instagram page, the dior SA told me that “fashion has to move forward” and that they have similar styles now. That said they still produce it, along with the Diorever and the DiorAddict and sell them at the Dior outlet with ~30/ 40 percent discount. I’m thinking of adding another as I love my black version but wondering if the outlet stock is same quality as the one I got in the main store.

Maybe that SA should have taken another look at the Saddle bag before say "fashion has to move forward" cause they brought it back. IMO, under Maria era, there will be a slim chance they'll bring back any Diorama since they just discontinued it. I am not betting on it ... maybe next creative director may. Then there will be a whole lot of Saddle, Montaigne and book tote end up in Outlet.
Also, it is going to bother me if I see a same color Dioramas I own in Outlet so I'd rather not knowing or looking for it. Sadly, ignorance is bliss.

 

[averagejoe]

SAs keep saying they will make their classic unattainable and never discounted like Chanel but I guess given COVID they changed their mind...

If this is what they are actually trying to do, then they have failed! I absolutely love Saint Laurent, and have gotten some stuff with minimal discount, but I know that I'm just waiting to be disappointed when I see the same item with a steep discount from an authorized retailer or their outlet. Seems like all of their bags have been discounted at some point, even if the discount is minimal.

 

[lvmyhappyhobby]

You are right I’m not entirely sure if they are producing or just gathering all excess stock from around the world. The SA in the outlet store keep sending catalogues of the bags and there is a lot ... (see pictures from this month).
Personally I think this hurts the current bags in their store, it just might deter people from buying the new styles (other than LD) for fear they end up in the outlet.
That said as a buyer I would rather buy from Dior outlet styles that I know than from Gucci or Prada outlet stores who are known to sell styles only ever seen in the outlet...

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Thanks so much for sharing.
I Had been looking for the Diorama but cannot find in stores...Does the outlet has a website or do you mind sharing outlet SA?

 

[Sparkletastic]

With Covid and life, I haven’t been focused on bags recently so I was shocked and devastated to just read that the Diorama had been discontinued. I really don’t understand Dior’s unwillingness to have anything gain perpetual classic status other than the LD.

In any case, I have a ltd edition Diorama that I really have not had a chance to wear. I wonder if I should sell and invest in something that won’t “go out of style.” I like to be on trend but have zero desire to chase new bags each year. I’m open for all suggestions.

 

[averagejoe]

With Covid and life, I haven’t been focused on bags recently so I was shocked and devastated to just read that the Diorama had been discontinued. I really don’t understand Dior’s unwillingness to have anything gain perpetual classic status other than the LD.

In any case, I have a ltd edition Diorama that I really have not had a chance to wear. I wonder if I should sell and invest in something that won’t “go out of style.” I like to be on trend but have zero desire to chase new bags each year. I’m open for all suggestions.

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I would suggest keeping this. It is so beautiful and special with this design, in a beautiful combination of off-white and gold. Besides, you may lose a lot selling it.

My favourite watch, the black ceramic Dior VIII, seems discontinued now and I keep seeing it on retailer websites like ShopWorn and Jomashop with ridiculous discounts. It doesn't feel good to see that I paid so much more for mine. But I still love it.
I still carry some bags from several years ago, including the Dior Gaucho. People may think it is dated, but I absolutely love the look of the bag, and it is more of a personal statement with sentimental value (I was blown away by that line of bags years ago).

I don't feel that about all my things, and I have tried to sell things before they got dated like the Fendi Monster bags I got. So I get it. Is this Diorama one of those sentimental pieces? If so, then I don't think it looking "dated" should affect how much you love it.

I've mentioned this somewhere else on the forum, but luxury brands cannot have too many permanent designs, or else the brand starts looking stagnant. Prada focused too much on their Galleria tote because of how well it sold, and their handbag sales started to decline. Any permanent styles kept by the brand need marketing investment (to continue to generate hype) to keep the style from seeming dusty, and some brands choose to focus on the next style instead to help grow the brand.

And all it takes is for a revision of the brand to discontinue a "classic" style, or de-emphasize it. At Balenciaga, the Work and City motorcycle bags seem to have lost their "classic" status as the brand focuses on being very trendy. At Bottega Veneta, the "classic" Intrecciato bags were discontinued when management refreshed the brand with Daniel Lee. Chanel styles may change over time now that Karl Lagerfeld has passed away. This means that what we consider "classic" in a brand is actually the result of marketing, and if the brand's strategy changes, then so can the "classics".

 

[Sparkletastic]

I would suggest keeping this. It is so beautiful and special with this design, in a beautiful combination of off-white and gold. Besides, you may lose a lot selling it.

My favourite watch, the black ceramic Dior VIII, seems discontinued now and I keep seeing it on retailer websites like ShopWorn and Jomashop with ridiculous discounts. It doesn't feel good to see that I paid so much more for mine. But I still love it.
I still carry some bags from several years ago, including the Dior Gaucho. People may think it is dated, but I absolutely love the look of the bag, and it is more of a personal statement with sentimental value (I was blown away by that line of bags years ago).

I don't feel that about all my things, and I have tried to sell things before they got dated like the Fendi Monster bags I got. So I get it. Is this Diorama one of those sentimental pieces? If so, then I don't think it looking "dated" should affect how much you love it.

I've mentioned this somewhere else on the forum, but luxury brands cannot have too many permanent designs, or else the brand starts looking stagnant. Prada focused too much on their Galleria tote because of how well it sold, and their handbag sales started to decline. Any permanent styles kept by the brand need marketing investment (to continue to generate hype) to keep the style from seeming dusty, and some brands choose to focus on the next style instead to help grow the brand.

And all it takes is for a revision of the brand to discontinue a "classic" style, or de-emphasize it. At Balenciaga, the Work and City motorcycle bags seem to have lost their "classic" status as the brand focuses on being very trendy. At Bottega Veneta, the "classic" Intrecciato bags were discontinued when management refreshed the brand with Daniel Lee. Chanel styles may change over time now that Karl Lagerfeld has passed away. This means that what we consider "classic" in a brand is actually the result of marketing, and if the brand's strategy changes, then so can the "classics".

Very good points all. I don’t have any sentimental attachment to the bag but I do feel it’s a very special looking bag. Had there been no Covid, I would have certainly worn it.

And, I hate losing money on bags. With that I think I’ll keep it. I still adore wearing my Miss Dior sliding chain bags despite them being discontinued a few years ago. This and my silver microcannage Diorama will just be in that camp - bags I love despite the trends.

I will say this however, IMO the Diorama is a superior alternative to the C Boy bag in every way - quality, style, functionality and price point. I hate that I don’t have a good flap option for a new purchase right now. I’m not a fan of the bold branding on many current Dior models.

 

[averagejoe]

Very good points all. I don’t have any sentimental attachment to the bag but I do feel it’s a very special looking bag. Had there been no Covid, I would have certainly worn it.

And, I hate losing money on bags. With that I think I’ll keep it. I still adore wearing my Miss Dior sliding chain bags despite them being discontinued a few years ago. This and my silver microcannage Diorama will just be in that camp - bags I love despite the trends.

I will say this however, IMO the Diorama is a superior alternative to the C Boy bag in every way - quality, style, functionality and price point. I hate that I don’t have a good flap option for a new purchase right now. I’m not a fan of the bold branding on many current Dior models.

Have you considered the Celine Box? I think that it is a wonderful bag that is now instantly recognizable, and doesn't have an obvious logo. I think it looks incredible, and is one of those styles that will look timeless even if the bag is discontinued.