I can see the second one being tortoise. It kind of looks like my tortoise's skin.Interesting. I could never carry anything with something's head on it. That is so disturbing. I thought it was stingray because a long time ago I saw a stingray bag and had never seen one, but when I looked it up, it wasn't the same. I thought the seond one was turtle (also disturbing). They are not my bags. Someone posted all these bags and shoes she got at an Estate sale. I am intrigued, as you are. I consider myself pretty knowedgable on bags, but these are stumping me.
