Rachel Zoe on Cartier

[Stophle]

we all have different needs and wants in life, and stating them here should not be worthy of hiding under a rock over, or be told that their conversations are not "realisitic."

I don't think it was just me who read Contessa's posts as very negative and almost condescending when speaking about push presents and the people who receive them. Perhaps Contessa didn't mean for them to come across that way, but they certainly did, which is probably why many women who have received these "push presents" took exception to her post and replied accordingly.

I've never even had a child or occasion to receive a push present and I found the tone of her posts very off-putting and almost offensive.


As for the subject of "push presents" itself, I think the name is horrendous. *LOL* I wish they were called something else, but other than that I think it's a beautiful, very thoughtful thing for a father to be so grateful to the mother of his child for going through 9 months of carrying the child and through the birth itself and all of the recovery afterward (depending on how the baby was delivered), that he wanted to give her a gift to thank her. Why that should be anything but a wonderful thing is beyond me.

I do agree with Contessa, that if a woman were to demand a "push present", that wouldn't be right. I don't necessarily think asking for one is wrong though, considering many men (God bless them) probably wouldn't think of it on their own. *LOL*

 

[COACH ADDICT]

Ok I need to comment on this also it is Jewish tradition to give the mother of your children a token of love and affection on the day of that childs birth.... it is also tradition to give your bride a wedding gift.. both of those gifts are also jewelry...

Now to go from this to say that these women turned to there husband and asked for their 'push presents" is really rediculous and mind boggling... This should not even be an argument because we all get gifts and they are signs of affection from others..

 

[aarti]

It's not at all rude. Her statement was that her husband and child are much more important to her than a piece of jewelry. I just found it interesting, then, that she chose to showcase an engagement ring- what she called a "material" symbol of the real prize (i.e. her husband)- in her avatar.

Point is, if you are going to be judgmental, don't take offense when someone points out an inconsistancy.

The way you worded it was snide. If you worded it the way you did above then it would be different. But you didn't. Many people have an object in their avatar and I highly doubt they prize it over their children and their significant other. So then in everyone's case are you saying we all value an object over our loved ones? Over marriage and commitment and children and what not? No. So in this case you a judging someone's priorities completely by an avatar. Regardless, Let's keep it civil ok? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but everyone has feelings. That's all I am saying. There is a way to say your opinion without a harsh tone to it.

 

[aarti]

I was thinking about the push / baby present a little more. I remember my Mom used to always wear this gold bracelet that my Dad had given her when I was born, and I loved thinking about him buying it for her because he was so happy I had been born.

Just in case anyone is wondering, you can still get on for a c section, lol!

 

[aarti]

http://www.rachelzoe.com/cartier-love-story

Well, have just watched this vid - it annoyed me that there is a massive cartier advert next to the video playing. Rather than listening to her 'story' and her passion about cartier, I felt like I was watching one big advert persuading me to buy cartier.... Just feels like product placement to me.

Sorry to be negative, I normally love listening to RZ but for some reason, seeing a cartier advert next to the video has irked me

I agree with you!

 

[onegirlcreative]

Ok I need to comment on this also it is Jewish tradition to give the mother of your children a token of love and affection on the day of that childs birth..

 

[edsbgrl]

:back2topic: pleeeeaaase.... I actually forgot what this thread was about reading so much about push present/no push present....... Each to his/her own.

Cartier - Question

Can you really not remove the Love Bracelet without the screwdriver? I had heard about the screwdriver but didn't know that it HAD to be used to remove the bracelet. Or does it?

TIA!

 

[MBeech]

Can you really not remove the Love Bracelet without the screwdriver? I had heard about the screwdriver but didn't know that it HAD to be used to remove the bracelet. Or does it?

Yes, the original bracelet can only be taken on/off with a screw driver. However there is a version of the love bracelet that is a cuff, and does not need to be taken off with a screwdriver. Alternatively, some people buy the original bracelet in a larger size so that they can slip it over their wrists, but the bracelet is mean't to be taken off with the screwdriver.

 

[itsonly4me]

:back2topic: pleeeeaaase.... I actually forgot what this thread was about reading so much about push present/no push present....... Each to his/her own.

Cartier - Question

Can you really not remove the Love Bracelet without the screwdriver? I had heard about the screwdriver but didn't know that it HAD to be used to remove the bracelet. Or does it?

TIA!

Wait this thread isnt about push presents?

 

[pie]

I think this is very rude and uncalled for! There are no personal attacks allowed on this forum!

The way you worded it was snide. If you worded it the way you did above then it would be different. But you didn't. Many people have an object in their avatar and I highly doubt they prize it over their children and their significant other. So then in everyone's case are you saying we all value an object over our loved ones? Over marriage and commitment and children and what not? No. So in this case you a judging someone's priorities completely by an avatar. Regardless, Let's keep it civil ok? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but everyone has feelings. That's all I am saying. There is a way to say your opinion without a harsh tone to it.

I agree that the subject of push presents is off topic in this thread, so I won't belabor the point.

But, let the record show that you were the one who called me "rude" and "snide." As you so aptly put it, "there are no personal attacks allowed on this forum." Easier said than done I guess.

 

[Contessa]

Pie, your advice while well-meant, wasn't well thought out, was it?

While I love my DH and children dearly, I also value my privacy & safety.

Giving out too much information may subject you to a compromise in security and unexpected attacks.

 

[Contessa]

It's not at all rude. Her statement was that her husband and child are much more important to her than a piece of jewelry. I just found it interesting, then, that she chose to showcase an engagement ring- what she called a "material" symbol of the real prize (i.e. her husband)- in her avatar.

Point is, if you are going to be judgmental, don't take offense when someone points out an inconsistancy.

I couldn't help notice that your avatar is blank.

What does that say about you?

 

[Contessa]

And for what it's worth, I have NOTHING against receiving gifts to celebrate or mark an occasion.....such as *GASP* the birth of a child.

What I DO take issue with is the term itself. But I will NOT re-state my opinion as I refuse to repeat myself & the point may again be lost by many.

I will say this however.......there are far and few people in between whom I've conversed with that have thought differently from me (yes....discussions are heated and upsetting many times), where we've walked away NOT in agreement, but instead respecting our differences. Why? Because it's educational to hear another point of view.

I'm not upset with anyone here. I agree that rudeness & personal insults/attacks aren't necessary but then, people are welcome to state their opinion......even if it's less "polished"

 

[pie]

^Like I said, I hate to distract from the OP's original any longer. However, if you'd read my first post carefully, I didn't say to post a picture of your husband. My point was that if you scoff at the idea of the "material gift" (which taken in the context you used it, I take it you mean the ring), then why do you choose to showcase an engagement ring in your avatar? It seems inconsistent, don't you think, that you both scoff at the significance others put on the engagement ring, but at the same time feel it's worthy to be your avatar?

It also seems strange to me that the ones who are eager to point out that personal attacks are not necessary are the same ones calling others "less polished" (among other things).
Anyway, I feel like I have beaten the horse dead. So, I shall move on...

 

[Bentley1]

Good grief!
What's with the extremism? Just because some people think it's stupid for a DH to be sweet and give a gift to his wife to commemorate arguably the biggest event in both their lives doesn't mean women ONLY care about the gift.
Why do some of you seem so bitter about this?

I hope you guys turned away the cards and flowers as symbolism.

Who here actually said this to their DH?
"turned to my DH in the OR asking, "where's my push present?"

I certainly didn't behave like this and I have to guess that the HIUGE majority of Mom's who received gifts didn't either.

Sorry, my DH sees in black and white - always one extreme or the other and it drives me bonkers.
I'm pretty sure no one pushes out a child and then says "where's my gift?"! LOL!
Let's at least have a realistic conversation about this.

Agreed! Great post, I especially agree with the highlighted parts. It is simply a man's way of showing his appreciation to his wife for carrying THEIR baby for 9 months and going through labor and c-section. And as mentioned several times already, commemorating a very special and rare time in their lives. Dunno why it bugs some so much??