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It's not at all rude. Her statement was that her husband and child are much more important to her than a piece of jewelry. I just found it interesting, then, that she chose to showcase an engagement ring- what she called a "material" symbol of the real prize (i.e. her husband)- in her avatar.

Point is, if you are going to be judgmental, don't take offense when someone points out an inconsistancy.

Sorry if this isn't "allowed" on this forum, but I agree with Pie. :shrugs:

I also would appreciate a "push gift" when the time comes. I think it's a lovely tradition that commemorates a special time in a woman's life. Then why give graduation gifts, for example, shouldn't your degree be gift enough? Why give birthday gifts? Isn't the fact that you were born and lived another year gift enough? Gift giving can be argued to be unnecessary for many occasions. Why just take issue with a push gift?
 
Hm. I guess what I don't like is that it is called a "push gift". Sounds... pushy lol!!! In my opinion, if my SO wants to buy me a new mommy gift, then yay! In my book, any reason/occasion to give a loved one a gift is a GREAT reason!
Oh I kinda liked the video... I like how she was tryingto share a personal story while advertising for Cartier. I have never seen any sort of advertising for Cartier like that before!
 
I was thinking about the push / baby present a little more. I remember my Mom used to always wear this gold bracelet that my Dad had given her when I was born, and I loved thinking about him buying it for her because he was so happy I had been born.

Just in case anyone is wondering, you can still get on for a c section, lol!
 
There's a fabulous line from the show "Two & a half Men" where Charlie Sheen's character remembers his Mom saying, "If God hadn't had intended for women to carry babies for 9 months, He wouldn't have invented incubators and C-sections"!!!

I had 2 sections....and another surgery when my daughter was only 13 weeks gestation. I had it rough.......but the 1st thing when she was born was not turning to my DH in the OR asking, "where's my push present?"

I actually never even heard of the term before until I read it here.
 
and the irony that your avatar is that of an engagement ring. Maybe it should be one of a beloved husband instead.

sorry, but i think that statement is harsh. the OP was just stating her opinion, and she shouldn't have to be belittled for that.

and i wanted to add, that maybe her husband is like my husband who would really prefer that i do not post any pictures of him or my daughter on the internet. just maybe...:shrugs:
 
There's a fabulous line from the show "Two & a half Men" where Charlie Sheen's character remembers his Mom saying, "If God hadn't had intended for women to carry babies for 9 months, He wouldn't have invented incubators and C-sections"!!!

I had 2 sections....and another surgery when my daughter was only 13 weeks gestation. I had it rough.......but the 1st thing when she was born was not turning to my DH in the OR asking, "where's my push present?"

I actually never even heard of the term before until I read it here.

I think everyone would agree that if that happened at delivery, then it's definitely not right. Your friends you mentioned that were more excited about their push presents than their babies, that's definitely not right! I think push presents are a wonderful gesture to symbolise the preciousness of the moment and as a way to say, "how can i ever thank you enough for carrying our baby". It's good to give, it's good to be excited and happy about receiving jewellery. But like all gift-giving, there's always gonna be ppl who feel entitled to a material gift for the wrong reasons and forget the big picture. That doesn't mean the gift-giving in itself is wrong, does it?
 
but the 1st thing when she was born was not turning to my DH in the OR asking, "where's my push present?"

Good grief! :faint:
What's with the extremism? Just because some people think it's stupid for a DH to be sweet and give a gift to his wife to commemorate arguably the biggest event in both their lives doesn't mean women ONLY care about the gift.
Why do some of you seem so bitter about this?

I hope you guys turned away the cards and flowers as symbolism.

Who here actually said this to their DH?
"turned to my DH in the OR asking, "where's my push present?"

I certainly didn't behave like this and I have to guess that the HIUGE majority of Mom's who received gifts didn't either.

Sorry, my DH sees in black and white - always one extreme or the other and it drives me bonkers.
I'm pretty sure no one pushes out a child and then says "where's my gift?"! LOL!
Let's at least have a realistic conversation about this.
 
^^great posts teinna & Swanky! You've summarized my thoughts on this subject much more succinctly than I could have!

FWIW, I don't think pie was harsh or disrespectful with her statement. She made a thought-provoking point that wasn't any more insulting than those questioning push presents (and those of us who have received them) to begin with. To be honest, I felt a little put-off and judged at first then realized that we're just offering up our opinions here. I hope I wasn't offensive to any of you in putting forth my thoughts as well.:smile1:
 
Why do some of you seem so bitter about this?

Let's at least have a realistic conversation about this.

not sure who you're talking about, but i didn't get the "bitter" vibe from anybody about this subject. just their opinion. i hardly call that being bitter.

and a realistic conversation? again, she is sharing her experience about a situation that happened to HER, doesn't mean she thinks it's the end all to "push presents." i don't think we need to make her feel completely ostracized for stating her opinion in this matter and imo, your post was only conscending towards her for bringing it up in the first place.

just because your husband got you a push present, doesn't mean all husbands have done so for their wives—and it doesn't make either scenario good or bad, it's just how it is.

my husband bought me a lovely push present when our daughter was born—sapphire earrings that i love and adore. doesn't mean i think it's a necessity for everyone, nor do i look down on anybody's husband who for whatever reason chose not to get their wives one, or towards someone who doesn't believe in one.

we all have different needs and wants in life, and stating them here should not be worthy of hiding under a rock over, or be told that their conversations are not "realisitic."
 
I take it all you ladies are from the USA because until I came on here I had never heard of a push present, I was lucky to get a bunch of flowers from my DH, in the UK that's what most people get maybe us Brits are tight lol, but if my DH had given me a push present I would of been very happy, at the end of the day each to there own, everybody is entitled to do what makes them happy, I do think it's a nice to have something to remember the day you gave birth so I hope this trend starts in UK not that I would benefit as I've had all my children.
 
Good grief! :faint:
What's with the extremism? Just because some people think it's stupid for a DH to be sweet and give a gift to his wife to commemorate arguably the biggest event in both their lives doesn't mean women ONLY care about the gift.
Why do some of you seem so bitter about this?

I hope you guys turned away the cards and flowers as symbolism.

Who here actually said this to their DH?
"turned to my DH in the OR asking, "where's my push present?"

I certainly didn't behave like this and I have to guess that the HIUGE majority of Mom's who received gifts didn't either.

Sorry, my DH sees in black and white - always one extreme or the other and it drives me bonkers.
I'm pretty sure no one pushes out a child and then says "where's my gift?"! LOL!
Let's at least have a realistic conversation about this.

I don't know why people are being so extreme - I had no idea this was a controversial topic :shrugs:

In our collective families, it is considered bad luck to give anything significant before the baby is born. Clothing & supplies are gathered; rooms are prepared - but nothing is engraved or embroidered until after the birth. Jewels or watches are picked out but not purchased until the happy day or day after.

I've never heard the term "push present", but my father gave my mother significant jewelry to commemorate our births. Those pieces mean so much to all of us - especially the meaning behind them & the stories my father tells about picking them out. While my father has presented my mother with many beautiful pieces of jewelry throughout their marriage, those pieces are always on view in a vitrine on my mother's vanity along with framed black & white baby pictures of us. There is also a great picture of my mother pregnant with me, my dad giving me my first feeding & my brother looking up at my mother with wonder - the wonder & happiness is evident in both sets of eyes greeting each other. I love going home & seeing that.

I equate this "push present" with an engagement ring - it's a tangible symbol of your joyous agreement to link your life with another. Your marriage isn't about jewelry nor should you marry someone solely on the basis of an engagement ring, but very few people mind it when they are presented with something sparkly to wear as a symbol of betrothal. I know I didn't ;) A little excitement is in order! I do think it's romantic that engagement rings link back to the vena amoris or "straight to the heart" :love: Whether it's a piece of string or a large rock, it's a symbol of love & hope.

So for me, I guess a push present is a visible way to express excitement about a momentous occasion & loving addition to a family. While I didn't know the name before this post, I think it's a lovely sentiment.
 
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