In general, if you were looking to buy a brand new one with tags - how much do you think I would have to pay for it (non pebbled on the Sienna (not a huge fan of the pebbled on that bag) and a decent color on the marcelle like in the brown family and not the color Moss I use to see a lot)? I know they are getting more rare - but are they increasing in demand b/c they are rare now?