Hi JKP, Silver Mom and 3jems, thanks for the compliments. My girl just turned 13. She is one angsty teenager! Lol!
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Another sleepless night. Im up early because my boy is up again. Wish he would just sleep through....
Petals, HEAVENS no! That ring costs a fortune because of the huge size. Not all of her things are priced that way. I've seen some great quality moonstone and gold rings for bt 1300-2000, and pendants for a bit more at her store. She has many more things unset that are not on the web. If you are curious, you can just ask what moonstones she can get for XXX amount of money. That would be the way to go. She'd get in a sample of a few, and you would choose and go from there. Gosh, the ring is gorgeous but WAY above budget for me too.
Silver Mom, your alexandrite set is so pretty! I love the earrings and the pendant because of the great diamond work and the alexandrites look like they are such nice quality. The colors are beautiful! Thanks so much for sharing!
Daisyshadow, your daughter is so pretty! The kebaya is beautiful too. You are lucky that she loves jewelry. My daughter likes it, but doesn't share the same kind of passion I have. It must be fun to have a daughter who really looks forward to getting things from your collection and adores it.
Junkempo, thanks for the postings and the link. Wow, this color polishing is just awful. One more thing we need to be on the lookout for. I'm going to put everything new under the gem microscope. I guess we need to get prepared by having a loupe or any kind of microscope. Or, hello gem labs! This is such a sneaky practice. Yes, it's like makeup, but imagine getting a bangle with lavender only to discover after the color polish has worn off that there is no lavender in it.
Petals, HEAVENS no! That ring costs a fortune because of the huge size. Not all of her things are priced that way. I've seen some great quality moonstone and gold rings for bt 1300-2000, and pendants for a bit more at her store. She has many more things unset that are not on the web. If you are curious, you can just ask what moonstones she can get for XXX amount of money. That would be the way to go. She'd get in a sample of a few, and you would choose and go from there. Gosh, the ring is gorgeous but WAY above budget for me too.
Silver Mom, your alexandrite set is so pretty! I love the earrings and the pendant because of the great diamond work and the alexandrites look like they are such nice quality. The colors are beautiful! Thanks so much for sharing!
Daisyshadow, your daughter is so pretty! The kebaya is beautiful too. You are lucky that she loves jewelry. My daughter likes it, but doesn't share the same kind of passion I have. It must be fun to have a daughter who really looks forward to getting things from your collection and adores it.
Junkempo, thanks for the postings and the link. Wow, this color polishing is just awful. One more thing we need to be on the lookout for. I'm going to put everything new under the gem microscope. I guess we need to get prepared by having a loupe or any kind of microscope. Or, hello gem labs! This is such a sneaky practice. Yes, it's like makeup, but imagine getting a bangle with lavender only to discover after the color polish has worn off that there is no lavender in it.
Silver Mom, Alice is an extremely skilled jeweler. Sigh....a vacation for me would be to just be able to visit her store!
Oh wow junkenpo, this color polishing trend is a bit alarming. Wonder if mine is polished due to some color at a low price. It is like makeup!!! Hopefully I won't wake up one morning and see who I really went home with!! 
Separately I was reading that there's no such thing as blue jadeite? I wonder if that is referring to a true blue color hue?
Clairejune - is the dark blue part of your hinged bangle described natural and untreated? Curious.
Separately I was reading that there's no such thing as blue jadeite? I wonder if that is referring to a true blue color hue?
Clairejune - is the dark blue part of your hinged bangle described natural and untreated? Curious.
I did read that there is no such thing as blue jadeite too. However I think that truly it is not per se really blue. From what Jeff from JOJO told me the blue color of jade is really partly a mixture of lavender. On a boulder you will sometimes find blue on a lavender piece of jadeite. However it is rare and the boulder itself was not blue but lavender. Just a portion of it had blue. That is why the blue jade is so rare. When I was looking for a blue piece of jade to make a pendant to match my bangle I found a blue pendant that he was selling on his website. Someone else bought it and I asked him if he was getting more. He said he only had that one and it was just one small piece that was taken off of a lavender boulder. I have been looking for a blue pendant for so long I have given up. So I think the blues are just a "chance" thing and not very common. Sometimes when I look at my blue bangle it actually has a shade of lavender.Oh wow junkenpo, this color polishing trend is a bit alarming. Wonder if mine is polished due to some color at a low price. It is like makeup!!! Hopefully I won't wake up one morning and see who I really went home with!!
Separately I was reading that there's no such thing as blue jadeite? I wonder if that is referring to a true blue color hue?
Clairejune - is the dark blue part of your hinged bangle described natural and untreated? Curious.
Alice's jeweler, the guy that makes and repairs jewelry for her is very talented indeed.
This is so beautiful ! U have the most gorgeous jewelry
( and the most handsome cat too .. I know u are nearby Mochi haha ) Daisyshadow-I love it that both your daughter and u look so beautiful in your traditional kebayas Daisyshadow . And that unheated sapphire ring is mesmerizing . Where can u find unheated rubies and sapphires in Singapore ?
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Very pretty .. Shows that there are pretty things to covet within every price range . Hows ornage mochi doing ? I had my german shepard cross remove a couple of polyps on his lips and luckily the biopsy came back benign .. it's quite stressful when furbabies become unwell ... Hope orange mochi is well and having a great new year with u .
NYCprincess, I seriously doubt that your bangles are color polished. They don't want to ruin their reputation. From a business perspective, there is a great market for sellers who have proven to sell grade A, untreated jade. There will always be a big market for untreated gems. In the gem trade, reputation is everything. Places like LH, Yimmian and others thrive on their reputation. The article that Junkempo posted mentioned that the color polished bangles are coming out of Myanmar, and that China will start to catch up. Jojo cuts and polishes their own bangles.
I've had mine for many months now, worn everyday, washed with soap and hot water, and the colors have only gotten better. Hope this gives you some piece of mind. But, since you are in NY, (right?) you can easily have them tested at the GIA there if you want to double check. For 80 dollars, you can have piece of mind if you don't trust enough.
I disagree that there is no such thing as blue jade. Blue, yellow and red are the primary colors in color theory. It's very, very hard to find any gem that is truly a primary color. Most have secondary colors mixed in a way which the eye interprets as blue, red and yellow. Even so, like the many shades of blue paint in an art store, these hues fall into the blue, yellow and red categories. Maybe they are referring to a completely pure hue of blue. Blue jade is the rarest of all colors, so it's not something you come across everyday. Silver Mom's blue is the closest to a pure blue hue that I've seen.
Mine is untreated. It's an estate piece from before all of this B jade treatment. They started dying jade in the 1950's, but those pieces faded because of the organic dyes used, like blueberry juice. (No kidding!) I have no worries about it for a few reasons. One can tell from the yellow flowers in it that it is a type of jade which seemed to be more plentiful in the past. I've seen one or two other vintage pieces of that grey/blue color with cream/yellow inclusion/flowers. It really is a type of jade. The other thing that makes me confident about it is that the seller has jade earrings that he clearly states are B jade. He has them checked by a gemologist. I think the hinged bangle is so unusual and that is another good sign. Treatment used to be done to make things look the most market desired colors, lavender and green, and red too. When I get it, I'll run it through my tests, but I'm 100% sure it's untreated.
I've had mine for many months now, worn everyday, washed with soap and hot water, and the colors have only gotten better. Hope this gives you some piece of mind. But, since you are in NY, (right?) you can easily have them tested at the GIA there if you want to double check. For 80 dollars, you can have piece of mind if you don't trust enough.
I disagree that there is no such thing as blue jade. Blue, yellow and red are the primary colors in color theory. It's very, very hard to find any gem that is truly a primary color. Most have secondary colors mixed in a way which the eye interprets as blue, red and yellow. Even so, like the many shades of blue paint in an art store, these hues fall into the blue, yellow and red categories. Maybe they are referring to a completely pure hue of blue. Blue jade is the rarest of all colors, so it's not something you come across everyday. Silver Mom's blue is the closest to a pure blue hue that I've seen.
Mine is untreated. It's an estate piece from before all of this B jade treatment. They started dying jade in the 1950's, but those pieces faded because of the organic dyes used, like blueberry juice. (No kidding!) I have no worries about it for a few reasons. One can tell from the yellow flowers in it that it is a type of jade which seemed to be more plentiful in the past. I've seen one or two other vintage pieces of that grey/blue color with cream/yellow inclusion/flowers. It really is a type of jade. The other thing that makes me confident about it is that the seller has jade earrings that he clearly states are B jade. He has them checked by a gemologist. I think the hinged bangle is so unusual and that is another good sign. Treatment used to be done to make things look the most market desired colors, lavender and green, and red too. When I get it, I'll run it through my tests, but I'm 100% sure it's untreated.
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Mainly used for surface polishing powder blue color close to white jade surface fissures, so polishing powder blue jade penetrate through the surface of the internal fissures in imitation "floating blue flowers" Jade (Figure 2).
Purple polishing powder is mainly used for the original light green jade surface, so the surface of pale green jade cast a faint purple imitation "Spring with color" Jade (Figure 4). Purple polishing powder can also be used as a light purple jade had to make a light purple color deepened surface (Figure 5).
Identification of surface residues polishing jade powder samples easier, as long as it generally through the strong / cold light carefully observed visually or under a microscope sample, residual traces can be found. The presence of bright colors polishing powder samples when the naked eye can see the color of the local focus spotty, patchy distribution network and micro-cracks between the surface and the extension of emerald fissures spread a large distribution depot to identify distinguishing characteristics.
In view of this, jade jewelry market is now circulating in the residual polishing powder and more serious, according to the current national standard GB / T 16552-2010 "jewelery name", GB / T 16553-2010 "jade jewelry appraisal." definition of jewelery optimization, for jade jewelry polishing powder residue on the surface of bright coloration may be dyed named and described in a note. At the same time, why "Spring with color" jade jewelry polishing powder residue in the "Purple" and "green" is relatively evenly distributed? To this end, and we work together to explore and understand the vagaries of learning, the mystery of infinite emerald.
Original Author: National Quality Supervision and Inspection Center jade jewelry laboratory Ping Chau Liu Yang Yang Xiaorong
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I m quite alarmed reading all this . Thanks for providing such informative read up ...
It's fairly easy to spot B/ C with a few things discriminating the price range ( U cannot have imperial green at couple of hundreds defintely ) and also the way it looks .. and how it weigh on the hand ( grade B being lighter in feel somewhat ) .
But this color polishing thing... well I think I think is tricky stuff ... Suppose it is so well done that one assume that they scored a grade a for a really reasonable price and go home after a few months to realise the color has faded . I mean .. kinda difficult to seek recourse on this . And the seller can refute that they are selling a grade A after ...
I think I will be heading to NGI for every single bangle purchase after this sigh ....
Very pretty .. Shows that there are pretty things to covet within every price range . Hows ornage mochi doing ? I had my german shepard cross remove a couple of polyps on his lips and luckily the biopsy came back benign .. it's quite stressful when furbabies become unwell ... Hope orange mochi is well and having a great new year with u .
Thanks berniechocolate for asking about orange mochi!
He is doing well! He has finished his 18 radiation treatments...poor thing had to go under general anesthesia every day. He ran every morning to avoid going to the vet. The oncology technicians loved him though...they said he was such a good boy, and always cried until he was picked up lol.
He lost some fur on his nose and mouth from the local radiation but hopefully it will grow back. He starts chemo next week. The oncologist thinks Mochi should be cured and have a normal life span. *Knock on wood. I am very thankful.
True clairejune about the reputation; especially since they are more traceable not like a street peddler that is gone the next day.
I agree about the not "true" blue hue, and a variant of lavender.
Clairejune, is the dark blue part of the bangle jadeite too? The light blue looks more similar to your other blue pieces but the dark blue wouldn't seem like a lavender variant to me. Sorry I'm not trying to sound critical (in case it comes off that way), I'm just curious because have never seen such a bold dark intense blue, and wondering if it is agate or some other stone. Either way, it is truly unique and beautiful.
A big question is about the Chinese national gem labs. The pieces from jojo all have certificates from them because they represent the countries highest standard of proof about authenticity. I hope that they are required to mention that bangles are A, but color polished in the future. I think it would really harm international business trust if they are allowed to let this slip by. We shall see what the future holds!....Sigh...makes me want to buy older, vintage jades even more.
I imagine it would be easy to tell color polish with a microscope. Therefore, anyone who will be collecting continuously might consider buying a gem microscope.
I imagine it would be easy to tell color polish with a microscope. Therefore, anyone who will be collecting continuously might consider buying a gem microscope.
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