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I kindly request that all members participating in the MM and Harry thread dial back the vile rhetoric.

I am not opposed to discussing public personas on TPF, including the constant torrent of news surrounding the couple from this thread. But I find it troubling when their looks are being nitpicked apart to a degree that is just not appropriate.

This thread has drawn criticism over the years, and I discussed it at great length with Megs and the mods. I am not looking to close it down, but the vitriol needs to be dialed back.

My personal feelings about hate threads aside, this ultra-negative vibe is something better suited for other forums, Reddit, or elsewhere. I am holding our community to higher standards.

Thanks for reading.
 
While rocking along on the subway this morning, I had a subversive thought occur to me regarding the lipgloss. Sparry should have been a gentleman and offered his love his tube of emergency Elizabeth Arden cream. After all, it was good enough for his mother's lips. And there wouldn't even have been a hygiene problem or an ewww moment, since we know it has touched his todger, and her lips were all over his todger by the 2nd(?) date.

Harry, you prick! You missed a beautiful romantic moment!
2nd date?!? HA! More like 1st date! :sick:
 
At that point, I would suggest that since his "kills" were done whilst he was in the British Army, that he go back to the UK where they can protect him as he was in the service of THAT COUNTRY and not the US.

Alternatively, since he volunteered the info to make money out of the book that put all British nationals a target (justifying the murder of at least one already), I would suggest he go back to Afghanistan and preach "compassion" to the Taliban.
 


I think she means therapy, counselling concentrated on finding practical solutions and focusing on the 'now'. It is widely believed by professionals that unlike those that have suffered from PTSD, people with CPTSD should not have therapy. Perhaps he was treated for PTSD when he should have been treated for CPTSD (complex post-traumatic stress disorder).

Below from: https://www.mind.org.uk/information...-disorder-ptsd-and-complex-ptsd/complex-ptsd/

symptoms of PTSD along with some additional symptoms, such as:

  • difficulty controlling your emotions
  • feeling very angry or distrustful towards the world
  • constant feelings of emptiness or hopelessness
  • feeling as if you are permanently damaged or worthless
  • feeling as if you are completely different to other people
  • feeling like nobody can understand what happened to you
  • avoiding friendships and relationships, or finding them very difficult
  • often experiencing dissociative symptoms such as depersonalisation or derealisation
  • physical symptoms, such as headaches, dizziness, chest pains and stomach aches
  • regular suicidal feelings.

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Common symptoms of PTSD​

These are some common signs and symptoms that you might recognise. Everyone's experience is different, so you may experience some, none or all of these things.


Reliving aspects of what happened​

This can include:
  • vivid flashbacks (feeling like the trauma is happening right now)
  • intrusive thoughts or images
  • nightmares
  • intense distress at real or symbolic reminders of the trauma
  • physical sensations such as pain, sweating, nausea or trembling.

Symptoms of PTSD

Alertness or feeling on edge​

This can include:
  • panicking when reminded of the trauma
  • being easily upset or angry
  • extreme alertness, also sometimes called 'hypervigilance'
  • disturbed sleep or a lack of sleep
  • irritability or aggressive behaviour
  • finding it hard to concentrate – including on simple or everyday tasks
  • being jumpy or easily startled
  • other symptoms of anxiety.

I have bolded what I witness in Harry's constant ANGRY :rant: Although he never blames anything on himself and M, it all stems from a place where he feels he is never in control, paranoia, no-one can understand him, he has it worse than anyone and couldn't save his mother from her untimely death.
 
Those first two lines are definitely the ghostwriter's. Sparry wouldn't have a clue about veal.

And who was prohibiting him from learning anything? Sure, his father can pay for all his needs, but his choice not to learn anything is his own. If he had wanted to learn something that could be used to earn a living, even if it was for fun, like woodwork or cooking, does he seriously think his father would "prohibit" him from doing so? He would be given the best teachers and all the time he needed to master the skill. And Charles was certainly not the one who whined about seeking financial independence. That came from him and his wench. Too bad that their idea of "independence" meant his father would just hand over the $$$$ and not question what they did with it.

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Of course it's all nonsense. He could have easily bought his own things, he didn't choose to. Who goes to Lidl if they live at the Ritz, all expenses are paid? St James, Green Park, Victoria, Charing Cross are all round the corner from Buck Palace and there are lots of stations near Ken Pal.

He is the one arguing in court for MORE paid-for perks, armoured cars, police escort wherever he goes, security detail etc.

Get on the Tube mate, nothing stopping you now!

Edited to say: Buying at Amazon is a life choice not a human right
 
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Of course it's all nonsense. He could have easily bought his own things, he didn't choose to. Who goes to Lidl if they live at the Ritz, all expenses are paid? St James, Green Park, Victoria, Charing Cross are all round the corner from Buck Palace and there are lots of stations near Ken Pal.

He is the one arguing in court for MORE paid-for perks, armoured cars, police escort wherever he goes, security detail etc.

Get on the Tube mate, nothing stopping you now!

Edited to say: Buying at Amazon is a life choice not a human right
Yeah that’s probably the least subtle product placement in the whole book. Very embarrassing that he’s positioning benefitting from zero hours Labour as a life affirming experience. I’m also sure parcels are delivered to royal homes and there’s nothing to stop him asking his butler to sit down for five mins and let him answer the door.

Honestly this book is so disconnected from any reality it is tedious.
Ive realised what it reminds me of — it is just a bad rewrite of Beautiful Things without the crazy drug stories.
 
What I don't understand about her pregnancy is how could BP NOT know that she was or wasn't pregnant? Surely they wouldn't cover a surrogacy up, especially since the baby would be in the line of succession, even though a relatively distant one?

I can totally see how they could not be aware.

Unlike everyone else before, she had her own team of doctors (if there were any) https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-snubs-queens-doctors-14248015

The family (and their staff) only saw her intermittently

Besides, when traveling on public transport, when I give up my seat for a someone noticeably pregnant or wearing a 'Baby on Board' badge, I don't ask for evidence or a doctor's note. And as you know, I have a suspicious nature :biggrin:.

Would you want to cross-question Meghan on pregnancy or anything she tells you?

Alarm bells rang due to my hearing about the difficulties faced by at least 4 friends in their mid-30s-40s in conceiving and carrying to full-term as first-time parent. The ease and timing of H&M's pregnancies were not only convenient but almost miraculous. M's weight gain on such an obviously quite vain and obsessed-with-appearences person almost had me convinced. The squatting and bounce up at visits, I thought looked weird (but I've never been pregnant).Suspicions were heightened after the fishy, murky and ultra-secretive birth-circumstances around Archie (and Lil) the wording on the announcement of A from BP, the timeline (that just doesn't work - with miscarriages too) Mills & Boon PS composite photos of en famille that really turned alarm bells tinkles into deafening air-raid warnings.

For others, it's only idiosyncratic photographic evidence along a timeline, and corroborated statements on impossible activities from other pregnant women that have made many more suspicious. As someone recently posted, the Palace was alerted by the vigilant public.

Can someone tell me why, what and how Moonbumps and similar contraptions are made and used for in the ordinary way? Are they used like those babies given to teens at some schools so that adolescents won't have early pregnancies?
 
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Oprah and Gayle (and M) set out to manipulate the public by engineering a media coup by feigning an accusation (they knew wasn't true) that locked into a real abhorrence (racism) felt, witnessed and experienced by many, and created a moral panic that saw an entire nation tarred with a brush unfairly and with no basis in truth and fuel for many that used the fake news for their own ends.

TRG - was not only analysing (or reanalysing) the interview from her POV and with the hindsight that we now have (int March 7, 2021) but making us aware of how they (O&G/CBS) set-up the story, used platforms, timing and biased commentary to set the agenda.

I would put Oprah in the same category as Martin Bashir for their journalistic integrity (as in - they have none). Don't know about Gayle (because I'm in the UK - we are more familiar with OW) - but that's what TRG said too, Gayle also used the fiasco to broaden and raise her public profile globally.
The TRG / Oprah and Gayle manipulated Harry video on YouTube, cited previously, is GOLD , best receipts I have seen in a long time
The video editing created a scandal engineered by O, G and MM.
Harry said The British press is racist two years ago, he did NOT accuse his family
This is a prime example of how editing is DANGEROUS and changed the story totally. Shame on the ladies
As TRG says, H could have corrected the narrative two years ago, and said he was misquoted, HE DID NOT - that is on him
 
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