They donot come from 22 to 12 k if you are thinking that......they may sell at 18-19k depending on the bag and sometimes may come down to 20 if it is a highly desirable bag..... but the reseller markups are getting higher by each day....there are only few resellers who price reasonably..... i think a bag sells really quickly if priced reasonably...Oh gosh, I never thought of it like that! So if you had to guess would you say this seller and also J***F**** usually sell alot lower than their Ebay listing price? I never tried to make them an offer because I would never pay that much more than retail, but if they transact for lower, then I would be tempted!