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As requested, this thread is now the official Help I.D. Hermes leather, color and design thread. Cheers!



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Edited: Please do nat ask for authentication on this thread.

Reply to any questions regarding any items are NOT be taken as a sign of authenticity. You will have to find a reputable paid-for service.

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ukonvasara said:
is this leather clemence? but the brown stamp is like something unusual.
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I can provide you with a link to an extremely knowledgeable women who can authenticate as well as answer all the questions you have as of late regarding these findings/acquisitions of yours.
http://www.bababebi.com/
Hope this helps❤️
 
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Hello alll! Hope everyone is safe and healthy! I need your experts out there to help me identify a pre-loved jelly 40 that I have just received. The description was quite vague but I went ahead with the purchase. It’s beautiful, but I’d like to know which leather you all think this is. The description was just ‘Barenia smellier Kelly 49, but I know it isn’t Barenia. I’m wondering if it is Vache Natural? It is very lightweight. Or would it be Vache Liegee? Thx for any help! Here’s the photos!CCF917D2-CDD6-412C-8618-5556A44F2D72.jpeg0C0DBE3D-4F94-4FF5-9AC5-B2B0D74FD5C9.jpeg84776206-B091-4B3A-A445-EF63B9C248D0.jpeg
 
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1gunro said:
Hello alll! Hope everyone is safe and healthy! I need your experts out there to help me identify a pre-loved jelly 40 that I have just received. The description was quite vague but I went ahead with the purchase. It’s beautiful, but I’d like to know which leather you all think this is. The description was just ‘Barenia smellier Kelly 49, but I know it isn’t Barenia. I’m wondering if it is Vache Natural? It is very lightweight. Or would it be Vache Liegee? Thx for any help! Here’s the photos!View attachment 4742928View attachment 4742929View attachment 4742931
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It’s not Vache Liegee. Here’s a link for you to discover the wonderful leathers of Hermes.
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/reference-hermes-groupie-s-leather-book.49095/
Congrats on your Kelly and enjoy.
I hope this helps❤️
 
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Thank you Rouge H! :smile:
I looked through all the descriptions. Which made me look back over the listing description, and it said 'natural barenia tadelakt. Could that be right? It doesn't have a velvety feel at all, and it smells like my barenia faubourg. So now I'm really confused, haha! It feels like Vache Natural to me, but does that leather have the smell of barenia?
 
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1gunro said:
Thank you Rouge H! :smile:
I looked through all the descriptions. Which made me look back over the listing description, and it said 'natural barenia tadelakt. Could that be right? It doesn't have a velvety feel at all, and it smells like my barenia faubourg. So now I'm really confused, haha! It feels like Vache Natural to me, but does that leather have the smell of barenia?
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It’s not Barenia nor Tadelakt ( the two are quite different although it was hoped that Tadelakt would satisfy Barenia lovers). Looks like Vache Natural to me. Does it feel finished or raw ? The only other option I see is Chamonix.
 
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Hi QuelleFrommage! :smile:
The gussets are very dry to the touch, but the front and back have a smoother feel. It is from 2005, if that helps any. I in a box stamp. It has a subtle sheen to it. Those are the two I am thinking as well. I wish I had a store near me to ask! Is there any distinctions between the two that could identify?
 
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1gunro said:
Hi QuelleFrommage! :smile:
The gussets are very dry to the touch, but the front and back have a smoother feel. It is from 2005, if that helps any. I in a box stamp. It has a subtle sheen to it. Those are the two I am thinking as well. I wish I had a store near me to ask! Is there any distinctions between the two that could identify?
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I believe that VN ordinarily has clear resin and Chamonix ordinarily has brown. That looks to have clear resin on my screen (you can see the natural edges of the leather) so my guess is VN.
 
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Rouge H said:
Heat stamp of Vache Natural and Chaminox you can compare.
View attachment 4743303 View attachment 4743304
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MommyDaze said:
I believe that VN ordinarily has clear resin and Chamonix ordinarily has brown. That looks to have clear resin on my screen (you can see the natural edges of the leather) so my guess is VN.
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Thank you both for your replies! @rougeh, the photos are very helpful, thank you! @MommyDaze, thank you for your reply too! But umm, you guys are saying opposing facts? Is clear resin Chamonix like in the photo, or is it VN?
The stamp is definitely a clear resin stamp. There is no darkening or shadow like darkening on the edges. It looks very much like the second photo in RougeH’s example.
I do love this bag, for being a size 40, it is surprisingly light! In fact, it feels lighter than my 32 swift!
Again, thank you for your extensive knowledge and help!!
 
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1gunro said:
Thank you both for your replies! @rougeh, the photos are very helpful, thank you! @MommyDaze, thank you for your reply too! But umm, you guys are saying opposing facts? Is clear resin Chamonix like in the photo, or is it VN?
The stamp is definitely a clear resin stamp. There is no darkening or shadow like darkening on the edges. It looks very much like the second photo in RougeH’s example.
I do love this bag, for being a size 40, it is surprisingly light! In fact, it feels lighter than my 32 swift!
Again, thank you for your extensive knowledge and help!!
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When I say resin, I’m referring to the edge paint. Is it clear ( you can see the raw edges of leather through the varnish) or brown like on any other bag?
 
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1gunro said:
It seems to be clear resin, here I took another picture under lighting. One of the strap stamp and bag stamp.View attachment 4743678View attachment 4743679
Thx for helping!! ❤️
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Hi, I think you've misunderstood @MommyDaze's description - the resin is found on the edges of the bag where panels join and is typically coloured, rather than the clear of VN.

The heat stamps you have photographed do vary based on leather type, as with most finished leathers they match the hardware, but do not with VN and Courchevel as explained further up thread.

For instance, with this bag the resin is black:
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