Please help identify leather, color and design

[Vlad]

As requested, this thread is now the official Help I.D. Hermes leather, color and design thread. Cheers!



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[momoc]

Need help! What natural leather is this? It is identified as Natural box calf, but I did not think there was such a leather called natural box calf. It's from 2001. I assume it is either vache natural, a natural sable or barenia. Or, perhaps caramel box calf, if that is a proper name and a true Hermes color? Merci. View attachment 4740256 View attachment 4740257

That looks like vache natural to me.

 

[LovelyLillyGirl]

Vache natural

Thank you so much! That is what I thought as well. I have one haut a courroies in vache natural, but the shade is not as yellow.

 

[LovelyLillyGirl]

That looks like vache natural to me.

Thank you so, so much!

 

[tannfran]

Thank you so much! That is what I thought as well. I have one haut a courroies in vache natural, but the shade is not as yellow.

You’re very welcome. As patina forms with time and usage, it will be less yellow. Pretty bag

 

[ukonvasara]

I thought Vache too. Vache really develops patina. I have heard it described as not for the faint of heart. I had a vintage vache bag and it scuffed very easily. I had to touch up the scuffs with saddle baum every time I carried it.

thanx. but I think there is a layer of yellow color upon the leather. so I think it more likely chamonix. my pics are not very accurate. thank you again.

 

[LovelyLillyGirl]

thanx. but I think there is a layer of yellow color upon the leather. so I think it more likely chamonix. my pics are not very accurate. thank you again.

Is chamonix a natural leather like vache or dyed?

 

[Cordeliere]

thanx. but I think there is a layer of yellow color upon the leather. so I think it more likely chamonix. my pics are not very accurate. thank you again.

research the Hermes stamp.

 

[Encore Hermes]

☝ And research the resin

 

[ukonvasara]

Is chamonix a natural leather like vache or dyed?

dyed

 

[ukonvasara]

research the Hermes stamp.

how to research the stamp, please? the stamp is square I something which is very hard to see. I post a pic here.

 

[ukonvasara]

☝ And research the resin

how to research the resin, please?

 

[momoc]

how to research the resin, please?

Vache natural and natural chamonix are very hard to tell apart but one difference is their resin. Vache natural has a clear resin where you can see the layers of leather whereas chamonix has a normal brown one. Also the stamp on VN should be blind stamp but Chamonix is brown ink (normally speaking).

 

[momoc]

Thank you so, so much!

also natural box miiiight actually be a thing at one time but I don’t think that’s the case for your bag based on the year you said (I think it need to be earlier than that)

NOT a super expert on this though that’s what I vaguely remember reading from other members on this forum when I was doing a search into the heritage leathers

 

[ukonvasara]

Vache natural and natural chamonix are very hard to tell apart but one difference is their resin. Vache natural has a clear resin where you can see the layers of leather whereas chamonix has a normal brown one. Also the stamp on VN should be blind stamp but Chamonix is brown ink (normally speaking).

i think the stamp is blind with no ink

 

[ukonvasara]

is this leather clemence? but the brown stamp is like something unusual.