No debate on this bag- it's mine to keep and I'm so happy with my purchase!!! The bag is big, but I'm not a skinny minnie so it fits my frame!!! I have big arms and it fits nicely under my arm~!!! OMG! I'm so friggen happy--- no more buy/sell/return for a while b/c I'm content finally with my Ursula and Azur Speedy 30!!! Excuse the dirty mirror--- and say hi to my cocker spaniel Macy- I just noticed she in the pic with me~~~~ I'M SOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY!!!