Perfume Chat Thread

[cowgirlsboots]

This is interesting. It seems like the description above that cuir can age is like fine glove leather would be perfect for you. PIf your leather perfume is very demanding, (perhaps too much birch tar?) I would also suggest, if it is in a spray atomizer, that is the most aggressive way to experience it. I would disable the spray and dab it very sparingly and then wa8t for it to evolve. (this is of course only if you want to use it at all). It’s notkolnisch juchten perfume?

i did run a search out of curiosity for soft leather in the boisdejasmine site and came up with this thread that seemed to recommend two others a bottega Veneta fragrance and an Hermes cuir ange

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I don’t think le labo labdanum 18 is mentioned in the soft leather category, but I think it should be. It’s a bit powdery, but it is leathery from start to finish, and some reviewers liken it to sueded leather.

you should be able to get a sample of cuir cannage on eBay, but if it’s too hard to get a sample, I would suggest Lutens Cir Mauresque. I’m also not sure if it makes a difference what year to get. it seems cuir cannage came out in 2012 and was reformulated at least once (possibly as late as 2018. my general preference when sampling is for the earlier formulation. The perfume reviewer kafkaesque describes cuir mauresque as a luxury leather car interior doused in fine cognac. https://kafkaesqueblog.com/2013/03/02/perfume-review-serge-lutens-cuir-mauresque-classic-sex-appeal/.
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It´s Sascha Russisch Leder by Farina am Dom. Eau de Toilette for men. I must did it out and have a look whether there is a list of the ingredients.

Thank you for running a search! I´ll read it in peace when the rest of the family has finally gone to bed.

Yes, there´s one 7.5 ml bottle Cuir Cannage on ebay- for 59 Euro plus shipping. I have to think very hard about this!

 

[cowgirlsboots]

Actually, Cuir Cannage is from 2014, and I don't believe it was reformulated at all as it wasn't even really available for very long. By 2018, its distribution had been restricted to Paris. There might be some bottles of it in stores outside of Paris, but if so, those are just old stock. So if she manages to find a sample of it and likes it enough for a full bottle, it won't be very easy to get. One of the reasons I ended up buying it is because I was at Saks in 2018, and they had a bottle of it. I thought it had been discontinued for the US, so I asked, and the SA confirmed that it was, so I bought it.

Dior's entire exclusive line was relaunched somewhere around 2018, and I believe the ones that hung around were reformulated around that time. Not Cuir Cannage, though. They just pulled that one from almost every market.

Personally, I don't find Labdanum 18 leathery at all.

I just had a look at the Dior website and Cuir Cannage seems to be available to order online in Germany. 125ml for 220 Euro. I have to be really sure I want it to spend this much on a perfume...

 

[cowgirlsboots]

The discussion on leather in perfumes led me to pulling out my sample box yesterday and digging around for some leather perfume samples. I found a sample of Bottega Veneta Bottega Veneta, Penhaligon's Iris Prima (iris and suede), and my Guerlain Cuir Beluga sample. I finished my sample of Chanel Cuir de Russie a while ago, but wish I still had it as I would have loved to refresh my memory of the scent.

I was also looking for Hermes Kelly Caleche, since I thought I had a sample of that one, but could not find it. It has been a few years since I tried Kelly Caleche but I remember it as being a nice fragrance -- leather with a light rose maybe? Perhaps @papertiger has tried it and can give us some thoughts on Kelly Caleche and Hermes Galop, which is also a leather-centric scent I believe. I think both Bottega Veneta Bottega Veneta and Kelly Caleche should hopefully be easier to find in places like Sephora or the department store to test.

If I were to buy a leather perfume from among the ones I have sampled, it would probably be either Cuir Beluga or Cuir de Russie. I have not tried the Tom Ford leather scents, but would love to sample Kelly Caleche again.

Is Kelly Caleche the same as "Caleche"? I have a very old bottle from my aunt´s estate. I don´t smell any leather in it, but it might long have lost its original scent.

 

[Purses & Perfumes]

Oh yes. A friend and I already have our eyes on the 40ml Dior bottles that cannot be bought here, and Dior also now has travel sprays. I am also tempted by some more Frederic Malles because those are less expensive over there than over here. I'm not sure what I can expect to find in terms of fragrances that aren't available here, though, as I'll be in Greece and not France. Still, there is at least one Greek brand I'm very interested in checking out.

There will be a new Frederic Malle coming out relatively soon. I texted my SA at Neiman Marcus about it several weeks ago, but he hadn't heard anything about it yet. I saw him again the other day, and he just recently learned about it from the company. I don't remember the names or the notes--and he didn't know them--but I'm definitely looking forward to it.

A new Frederic Malle sounds exciting! I will be waiting to hear more. I might just wait a bit and order my samples after it's released. Please do post an update when you get more information.

I love travel sprays so I went and checked them out on the Dior website. It looks like they're sold in a set of three. I still love the 40 ml size, but it's great to have more options.

 

[880]

I just had a look at the Dior website and Cuir Cannage seems to be available to order online in Germany. 125ml for 220 Euro. I have to be really sure I want it to spend this much on a perfume...

I asked to try cuir cannage today at the Dior boutique today. (there were no samples (my SA would certainly have given some to me) or I would have picked some up to send to you. Not sure why , for some covid reason, they also don’t spray on paper.

I was welcome to test on my wrist. With my body chemistry, I get a hit of perfumed leather up front maybe for fifteen minutes that quickly devolves into an animalic skin scent (somewhere between serge Lutens musc kublai khan and kiehls. It expressed a significant amount of powder (more than ambre nuit) on me. Might just be my skin chemistRY as I don’t have an easy time wearing leather scents. Piguet Bandit is awful on me; bao de versaille is urinous; and several warm leather serge Lutens with fruity leather turn to powder. So my experience is definitely not the norm.

By the way, I scrubbed my wrist repeatedly with hand sanitizer and also washed my wrists (not bc I didn’t like it but) in order to try on some RTW, and cuir cannage kept resurfacing. so longevity is excellent. My application was around 2 pm and it’s still going strong at 630 pm (as an animalic, not a leather scent). DH diplomatically sniffed my arm and stated that it would not be his first pick on me. To be clear, I liked it more than he did, especially once the powder calmed down (hours later at midnight).

if you have to buy it, I suggest the smaller amount for less Money or, better yet, a decant. I don’t think this should be a blind buy. JMO though! Good luck!

 

[Purses & Perfumes]

Is Kelly Caleche the same as "Caleche"? I have a very old bottle from my aunt´s estate. I don´t smell any leather in it, but it might long have lost its original scent.

Hermes Caleche is different from Kelly Caleche. Caleche is an aldehyde perfume, in the same family as other aldehydes like First by Van Cleef & Arpels, Chanel No. 5 and Madame Rochas. Sounds like you have a vintage bottle of Caleche. Do you like it?

 

[ultravisitor]

I just had a look at the Dior website and Cuir Cannage seems to be available to order online in Germany. 125ml for 220 Euro. I have to be really sure I want it to spend this much on a perfume...

I haven't come across a leather that I like more, but you should definitely see if you can find a way to test it first.

 

[cowgirlsboots]

Hermes Caleche is different from Kelly Caleche. Caleche is an aldehyde perfume, in the same family as other aldehydes like First by Van Cleef & Arpels, Chanel No. 5 and Madame Rochas. Sounds like you have a vintage bottle of Caleche. Do you like it?

You are right, it´s Caleche. It´s very interesting to hear it belongs into the same family as First and Chanel No.5. I have (vintage) First and No.5, too and while I used to like all three for several years maybe 25 years ago, at the moment I am not keen on any of them. They are lingering in the dark cupboard. Maybe one day I´ll fall back in love with them.

 

[Purses & Perfumes]

You are right, it´s Caleche. It´s very interesting to hear it belongs into the same family as First and Chanel No.5. I have (vintage) First and No.5, too and while I used to like all three for several years maybe 25 years ago, at the moment I am not keen on any of them. They are lingering in the dark cupboard. Maybe one day I´ll fall back in love with them.

It's interesting how that goes. I was not particularly drawn to aldehydes in perfumes earlier, but have been really liking them over the last year or two, and have now added them to my perfume rotation on a regular basis. You have the vintage formulas, which are cherished versions. A dark cupboard (away from heat and light) is a great place to store them. And yes, you might fall in love with them again one day!

 

[880]

Now I want to look up caleche versus kelly caleche. I vaguely remember one of them was soapy but I forget if that was the aldehydes (I like soapy). The posts above reminded me that I do like aldehydic perfumes. I’m thinking of digging up amouage gold (the old discovery coffret for men and women from years ago is still going strong) which was twenty years after Caleche and Estée Lauder beautiful.

guy Robert, who did Amouage gold, whose uncle was head perfumer at maybe chanel when guy was in training, also did Caleche (tha latter in the 1960s). I’m rambling bc I I’m tired and just came back from working out at 615 am

I put on Le labo santal 33 (discovery coffret) before jumping on this thread this am.

my initial impression is generic sweet smoky woods. I like it bc it’s well crafted but not challenging. What you see is what you get and there are days when thats all good. I pulled up a fragrantica review thread and there were comments that stated, once upon a time, all of NYC who went to bars ans restaurants smelled like this. Probably wishful thinking. The restaurants i patronized probably smelt more like the Burberry Brit for men, a few years before Santal (my FIL was sad when he couldn’t buy BB anymore).

 

[Purses & Perfumes]

Now I want to look up caleche versus kelly caleche. I vaguely remember one of them was soapy but I forget if that was the aldehydes (I like soapy). The posts above reminded me that I do like aldehydic perfumes. I’m thinking of digging up amouage gold (the old discovery coffret for men and women from years ago is still going strong) which was twenty years after Caleche and Estée Lauder beautiful.

guy Robert, who did Amouage gold, whose uncle was head perfumer at maybe chanel when guy was in training, also did Caleche (tha latter in the 1960s). I’m rambling bc I I’m tired and just came back from working out at 615 am

I put on Le labo santal 33 (discovery coffret) before jumping on this thread this am.

my initial impression is generic sweet smoky woods. I like it bc it’s well crafted but not challenging. What you see is what you get and there are days when thats all good. I pulled up a fragrantica review thread and there were comments that stated, once upon a time, all of NYC who went to bars ans restaurants smelled like this. Probably wishful thinking. The restaurants i patronized probably smelt more like the Burberry Brit for men, a few years before Santal (my FIL was sad when he couldn’t buy BB anymore).

Caleche is the soapy one due to the aldehydes. I am still hunting for my Kelly Caleche sample lol. I don't recall that one as being soapy. I have a sample of Amouage Gold too, and it's a powerhouse. I remember my mom having Caleche parfum on her dressing table. I have the current formula but would like to get a bottle of vintage parfum sometime, for the memories.

My favorite aldehydic perfumes at the moment are Robert Piguet Baghari (just ignore the sharp opening, which is fleeting), Caron Nocturnes and Chanel No. 22. I also like the current No. 5 and its flankers. This year is the 100th anniversary of Chanel No. 5, and I am hoping to finish my EDP bottle and am debating if I should get a bottle of No. 5 parfum. I have vintage No. 5 Eau de Cologne but that one is quite different from No. 5 EDP. Now, I might be the one rambling, but it's fun to ramble about perfumes.

Thank you so much for linking interesting and informative perfume-related articles. Guy Robert also created Madame Rochas, another classic aldehydic scent. Have you tried that one? His uncle Henri Robert created Chanel No. 19, which to my nose is a masterpiece, especially in the original formulations.

I have not been able to sample Le Labo in my area. Perhaps, I will have a chance to try them when I travel to an area that has a boutique.

 

[880]

Caleche is the soapy one due to the aldehydes. I am still hunting for my Kelly Caleche sample lol. I don't recall that one as being soapy. I have a sample of Amouage Gold too, and it's a powerhouse. I remember my mom having Caleche parfum on her dressing table. I have the current formula but would like to get a bottle of vintage parfum sometime, for nostalgia's sake.

My favorite aldehydic perfumes at the moment are Robert Piguet Baghari (just ignore the sharp opening, which is fleeting), Caron Nocturnes and Chanel No. 22. I also like the current No. 5 and its flankers. This year is the 100th anniversary of Chanel No. 5, and I am hoping to finish my EDP bottle and am debating if I should get a bottle of No. 5 parfum. I have vintage No. 5 Eau de Cologne but that one is quite different from No. 5 EDP. Now, I am the one rambling, but it's fun to ramble about perfumes.

Thank you so much for linking interesting and informative perfume-related articles. Guy Robert also created Madame Rochas, another classic aldehydic scent. Have you tried that one? His uncle Henri Robert created Chanel No. 19, which to my nose is a masterpiece, especially in the original formulations.

I have not been able to sample Le Labo in my area. Perhaps, I will have a chance to try them when I travel to an area that has a boutique.

I have a sample of baghari somewhere! And I have a small bottle of Madame rochas, square bottle. I love 19 & 22 particularly in the edc vintage! Thank you for reminding me and for the inspiration!
re Le labo, they’re well crafted but don’t evolve. So, what you first put on seems to be what you get, no surprises
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[ultravisitor]

The restaurants i patronized probably smelt more like the Burberry Brit for men, a few years before Santal (my FIL was sad when he couldn’t buy BB anymore).

Why can't he buy it anymore?

 

[880]

Why can't he buy it anymore?

He said the one from 2005 or thereabouts was discontinued. . . Will do a search to see if it’s still around, thanks
@ultravisitor, thank you so much for this info on fragrancenet.com below!

 

[ultravisitor]

He said the one from 2005 or thereabouts was discontinued. . . Will do a search to see if it’s still around, thanks

It's available all over the internet at discount sites like FragranceNet. There's nothing wrong with those bottles, either. Lots and lots of perfume hoarders buy (like me) from FragranceNet all the time. And it's really inexpensive.

I know a lot of people come up with reasons to stay away from places like FragranceNet, but there's nothing wrong with buying from that site. I think people mainly have problems coming to terms with the idea that their luxury brands like Creed can be had for much better prices than what you'll pay at a department store or boutique.