Official MOYNAT Thread

[Mousy]

agree. green is one of my favorite colors but I really cannot justify the €800 especially when the one with the blue flap looks more like the limited edition one. I'm looking forward to seeing them in person. my December Paris trip can't come soon enough

My daughter keeps putting off our France trip. I want to go to JD and Moynat. The USD is almost equal to the €!

 

[IntheOcean]

Curtis eye candy — Gabrielle clutch in the color eggplant.
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Very elegant clutch, and I LOVE the color!

 

[sosauce]

So, I have a conundrum. I recently saw Kelly Mi Li on Bling Empire carry a Kwanpen bag. Never heard of the brand before, but I fell in love with the raffles clutch. The problem is that I also really like the moynat little suitcase.

Originally, I had planned on getting the suitcase later this year or early next year. But now, I’m conflicted on which one I like more.

With the suitcase, I think it’s so fun and casual, and I would get it initialed for that cute, extra personal touch. I feel like it’s very everyday. But it’s also in canvas, which I don’t love. I haven’t owned canvas anything since I was maybe in high school? And I’m not sure if the monogram Ms are my vibe either. It’s still discrete as a brand, yes. But I wonder if it presents as too flashy? I don’t know. Also not sure how durable canvas is, like if the monogram will fade away, or my painted initials will wear off.

With the raffles, I love that it’s crocodile. I love all the color options (I’ve yet to decide). I think the hardware looks so luxurious. The only thing is that I’ve never owned an exotic before (except for an ostrich Roulis that I returned after a week of non-use, because it was $15k and even though it was very cute, I felt like I couldn’t use it…). Also, I worry if crocodile is too formal or mature for me. Of if the maintenance will be a pain… Or if it will present as ostentatious as well, since it’s, well, croc.

If my memory is correct, the Moynat is like $4,000 and the Kwanpen is like $5,000. So that’s another consideration, as well. I think the Kwanpen value for a handmade exotic made is very good.

They’re just both so cute. And I think I will most likely buy both eventually… But which one do you think is the better bag to buy first?

 

[hillsidegirl]

So, I have a conundrum. I recently saw Kelly Mi Li on Bling Empire carry a Kwanpen bag. Never heard of the brand before, but I fell in love with the raffles clutch. The problem is that I also really like the moynat little suitcase.

Originally, I had planned on getting the suitcase later this year or early next year. But now, I’m conflicted on which one I like more.

With the suitcase, I think it’s so fun and casual, and I would get it initialed for that cute, extra personal touch. I feel like it’s very everyday. But it’s also in canvas, which I don’t love. I haven’t owned canvas anything since I was maybe in high school? And I’m not sure if the monogram Ms are my vibe either. It’s still discrete as a brand, yes. But I wonder if it presents as too flashy? I don’t know. Also not sure how durable canvas is, like if the monogram will fade away, or my painted initials will wear off.

With the raffles, I love that it’s crocodile. I love all the color options (I’ve yet to decide). I think the hardware looks so luxurious. The only thing is that I’ve never owned an exotic before (except for an ostrich Roulis that I returned after a week of non-use, because it was $15k and even though it was very cute, I felt like I couldn’t use it…). Also, I worry if crocodile is too formal or mature for me. Of if the maintenance will be a pain… Or if it will present as ostentatious as well, since it’s, well, croc.

If my memory is correct, the Moynat is like $4,000 and the Kwanpen is like $5,000. So that’s another consideration, as well. I think the Kwanpen value for a handmade exotic made is very good.

They’re just both so cute. And I think I will most likely buy both eventually… But which one do you think is the better bag to buy first?

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I like both of these bags but, as you said, I feel that they are quite different. The moynat is such a fun, daytime bag or a more casual, almost sporty evening bag while the Kwanpen is more sophisticated and elegant. So I think your lifestyle will dictate which bag is best for you.

I have never owned a Kwanpen and don’t know much about them except that at least at one point (maybe still) they offered near replicas of the Hermes Kelly in exotics but for a fraction of the price. I think the brand is Korean, but I could be wrong. I have never seen the raffles clutch before but I really like it - it reminds me of a cross between the Kelly Cut because of the lines and an Asprey bag because of the similar hardware. I own a croc Asprey bag that looks a little bit like this, but smaller (see photos - note the hardware in particular) and I find it quite usable and easy to maintain. I use mine exclusively as an evening bag whereas I think the raffles could also be carried during the day, perhaps with a sleek, more tailored outfit, since it appears to be a bit larger than my Asprey (mine is just over 8” across). I find the key to alligator and crocodile bags is to be sure to keep them from getting wet as they are prone to water spots, but otherwise I find them to be fairly maintenance free and not as scratch prone as some of the more delicate leathers, like lambskin. And I think crocodile is particularly well suited for structured bags, such as this Kwanpen. As for the image conveyed by exotics - I don’t think croc is terribly ostentatious, but that probably depends a lot on where you live - exotics are everywhere in big cities in the US, so it’s not a big deal at all to carry one. I’m amazed how frequently I see a croc Birkin cavalierly thrown in the front of a shopping cart at the local market. I also see people of all ages carrying exotics (just take a look at social media for examples), so I don’t think it’s a maturity issue either. If you like it, carry it. If you don’t, don’t. It’s that simple.

So again, I think whichever better suits your lifestyle is the better bag for you. I like both but for very different occasions. Please let us know what you select in the end. What a fun decision to get to make!

 

[redwings]

So, I have a conundrum. I recently saw Kelly Mi Li on Bling Empire carry a Kwanpen bag. Never heard of the brand before, but I fell in love with the raffles clutch. The problem is that I also really like the moynat little suitcase.

Originally, I had planned on getting the suitcase later this year or early next year. But now, I’m conflicted on which one I like more.

With the suitcase, I think it’s so fun and casual, and I would get it initialed for that cute, extra personal touch. I feel like it’s very everyday. But it’s also in canvas, which I don’t love. I haven’t owned canvas anything since I was maybe in high school? And I’m not sure if the monogram Ms are my vibe either. It’s still discrete as a brand, yes. But I wonder if it presents as too flashy? I don’t know. Also not sure how durable canvas is, like if the monogram will fade away, or my painted initials will wear off.

With the raffles, I love that it’s crocodile. I love all the color options (I’ve yet to decide). I think the hardware looks so luxurious. The only thing is that I’ve never owned an exotic before (except for an ostrich Roulis that I returned after a week of non-use, because it was $15k and even though it was very cute, I felt like I couldn’t use it…). Also, I worry if crocodile is too formal or mature for me. Of if the maintenance will be a pain… Or if it will present as ostentatious as well, since it’s, well, croc.

If my memory is correct, the Moynat is like $4,000 and the Kwanpen is like $5,000. So that’s another consideration, as well. I think the Kwanpen value for a handmade exotic made is very good.

They’re just both so cute. And I think I will most likely buy both eventually… But which one do you think is the better bag to buy first?

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Kwanpen is an old brand since 1938 and it isn’t Korean but Singaporean. Known for its crocodile and alligator products. They very seldom deviate from those leathers unless it is ostrich. They have a store in Hong Kong. Very beautiful leathers, expensive but not exorbitant.

I think it’s mostly worn by the rich Asians.

The colonial British of Singapore liked their goods way back when Hermes had no international stores.

Their crocodile and alligator make is somewhat on par to the luxury houses and they are slightly cheaper being manufactured in Asia but the quality is good. My late mother has a croc Kwanpen which survive til today at the age of 40 over years. Still looks good but that’s inherited by my sister (my mom’s favorite).I got mom’s Hermes Kelly which is over 20 years old - coz my mother seems to value leather by exotics and non exotic hahaha. Sis got the heavier gold though ack.


If you like exotics for slightly over the price of a moynat and almost similar quality, then Kwanpen. Otherwise, moynat.

 

[hillsidegirl]

Kwanpen is an old brand since 1938 and it isn’t Korean but Singaporean

Thank you so much for correcting my error. I was hoping someone with more knowledge than I would chime in!

 

[redwings]

Thank you so much for correcting my error. I was hoping someone with more knowledge than I would chime in!

Understandable. Outside Asia, Kwanpen is hardly as well known as the old European luxury brands.

Also, Singapore (Kwanpen’s home ground) buys at least 60% of the African crocodile skins exported to Asia and have been supplying the top luxury houses with the high grade tannery leathers. In 2011, LVMH snapped up 51% stake in one Singaporean tannery, Heng Long so that’s where some of their croc leather are coming out from too. Just a tidbit.

 

[bagnut1]

Kwanpen is an old brand since 1938 and it isn’t Korean but Singaporean. Known for its crocodile and alligator products. They very seldom deviate from those leathers unless it is ostrich. They have a store in Hong Kong. Very beautiful leathers, expensive but not exorbitant.

I think it’s mostly worn by the rich Asians.

The colonial British of Singapore liked their goods way back when Hermes had no international stores.

Their crocodile and alligator make is somewhat on par to the luxury houses and they are slightly cheaper being manufactured in Asia but the quality is good. My late mother has a croc Kwanpen which survive til today at the age of 40 over years. Still looks good but that’s inherited by my sister (my mom’s favorite).I got mom’s Hermes Kelly which is over 20 years old - coz my mother seems to value leather by exotics and non exotic hahaha. Sis got the heavier gold though ack.


If you like exotics for slightly over the price of a moynat and almost similar quality, then Kwanpen. Otherwise, moynat.

Thank you for this info!

 

[allanrvj]

it's been a month and I haven't heard from Moynat regarding my Rejane PM in barenia order. also, this link for the Rejane PM in barenia on their website is not working anymore.

so... I guess they're not making that bag anymore. oh well. happy for those who got them while they were still available.

 

[obsessedwlux]

Does anyone know whether Gabrielle MM size has discontinued its production?

 

[Mousy]

If you’re on IG and follow JD, Moynat, and Hermès, have you noticed an uptick of atelier stories?

I think these companies take to heart what their people read on Purseforum. JD has had a story or two about made in France and made by hand. Hermès has had ‘completely’ made in France stories. Today’s Moynat story shows their craftspeople putting on finishing touches in an atelier.

Have we hit a nerve? Have customers questioned prices and workmanship so much that luxury bag companies are putting out old world craft stories?

IMO, JD is the most organic with their IG stories — JD feels like a bespoke company.

 

[Mousy]

Does anyone know whether Gabrielle MM size has discontinued its production?

Yes, as far as I know.

 

[allanrvj]

If you’re on IG and follow JD, Moynat, and Hermès, have you noticed an uptick of atelier stories?

I think these companies take to heart what their people read on Purseforum. JD has had a story or two about made in France and made by hand. Hermès has had ‘completely’ made in France stories. Today’s Moynat story shows their craftspeople putting on finishing touches in an atelier.

Have we hit a nerve? Have customers questioned prices and workmanship so much that luxury bag companies are putting out old world craft stories?

IMO, JD is the most organic with their IG stories — JD feels like a bespoke company.

I follow the three and I didn't notice H increase their atelier stories. More recently it was the Madison store and the women's fashion show.

And you're right, JD feels more real with their savoire-faire stories and posts. Moynat feels contrived.

Also I have noticed that not only the barenia Rejane PM is missing from their website, but also the wicker and barenia Floris.

 

[obsessedwlux]

Yes, as far as I know.

thank you.

 

[bagnut1]

If you’re on IG and follow JD, Moynat, and Hermès, have you noticed an uptick of atelier stories?

I think these companies take to heart what their people read on Purseforum. JD has had a story or two about made in France and made by hand. Hermès has had ‘completely’ made in France stories. Today’s Moynat story shows their craftspeople putting on finishing touches in an atelier.

Have we hit a nerve? Have customers questioned prices and workmanship so much that luxury bag companies are putting out old world craft stories?

IMO, JD is the most organic with their IG stories — JD feels like a bespoke company.

I follow the three and I didn't notice H increase their atelier stories. More recently it was the Madison store and the women's fashion show.

And you're right, JD feels more real with their savoire-faire stories and posts. Moynat feels contrived.

Also I have noticed that not only the barenia Rejane PM is missing from their website, but also the wicker and barenia Floris.

I stopped following Moynat quite a while ago but took a look.... I agree with @allanrvj that the Moynat IG feels rather "contrived." Also if you sort of just let the images of the bags wash over you, there is a cohesiveness and "otherness" to JD (equals authentic and creative) that is missing now with Moynat.