Official MOYNAT Thread

[Mousy]

Re: the taupe/cognac Danse---I found out what the story is. The older version of the bag did not have the cognac Barenia piping on the sides, which the new version has. If one looks closely at the bag @Sourisbrune posted earlier that was 'supposed' to be on sale, it has the barenia piping on the sides. It has a new SKU and it is full price. HTH.

I would have been OK with the old version but there are none available in either taupe or cognac. In fact, I think the new barenia piping might be problematical, having a barenia Birkin and Halzan and knowing how barenia wears/ages. It's one thing to have an entire bag made of barenia where wear will show more evenly, but then another to have piping that will likely get nicked and show wear far differently than the grained calf leather on the main part of the bag. At least, that's what I'm thinking.
Since I've never even tried this bag on and do not live near a boutique, I'll be taking my time to decide on it at full price...

Lastly, as confusing as the situation has been, I am very grateful still for 1) the help and information from the SA's I have worked with, their honesty and transparency, and responsiveness and 2) the Moynat bags I have and will continue to treasure them.

Thanks for the info. I just asked again, and after a double and triple check, you nailed it. This particular style is not on the sale. This is a new style with the barenia piping. Any original style taupe, with no barenia piping, if still available, is on the sale. I apologize for the misinformation and thank @kipp for catching it.

 

[littleunicorn]

There’s not a lot that they have right now that would convince me to spend the money, but even if they do have something in the new collection I’m going to be wondering if it’ll later be available at up to half the price.

I totally agreeing with you @Tonimichelle!
The items I bought during the sale, mostly are the ones I had my eyes on and didn't pick up back then, personally quite like Ramesh's design so making the most of this opportunity to added them to my collections.
It would take a lot to convince me to spend money on their full price items/new collections for a good while, I will also be wondering if it'll be available at -40% or even half price - been there and IMO it's enough.
Also I seconded that they have somewhat devalued the brand, its not the same!

The sale caught me off guard. I’m the person who doesn’t buy bags from companies that have an outlet and whose bags go on sale. I’ve been burned too often- buying a bag and seeing it $1000-$2000 off, weeks later.

One of the reason I bought Moynat is the same as you, I don'y buy bags from companies that have an outlet and whose bags go on sale. The June sale already took my by surprise, but this Nov one really left me speechless and was definitely unexpected.
Well... with these, who knows whats around the corner?

Re: the taupe/cognac Danse---I found out what the story is. The older version of the bag did not have the cognac Barenia piping on the sides, which the new version has. If one looks closely at the bag @Sourisbrune posted earlier that was 'supposed' to be on sale, it has the barenia piping on the sides. It has a new SKU and it is full price. HTH.

Thank you @kipp @Sourisbrune for clarified this confusion!
I think there is no more original style taupe available anywhere now, but I might be wrong.

I feel you all on the full price/sale price issue. I tell myself, adding a Fleur on sale will make it seems like I got a 20% discount on both bags, instead of paying 60% for Fleur and full price on my Strap. Oh the excuses I make to justify my want.

Hahahaha... I like your method, maths-wise it works perfectly and make sense.
Hope you will find your -20% Fleur for your -20% Strap!

 

[kipp]

I totally agreeing with you @Tonimichelle!
The items I bought during the sale, mostly are the ones I had my eyes on and didn't pick up back then, personally quite like Ramesh's design so making the most of this opportunity to added them to my collections.
It would take a lot to convince me to spend money on their full price items/new collections for a good while, I will also be wondering if it'll be available at -40% or even half price - been there and IMO it's enough.
Also I seconded that they have somewhat devalued the brand, its not the same!


One of the reason I bought Moynat is the same as you, I don'y buy bags from companies that have an outlet and whose bags go on sale. The June sale already took my by surprise, but this Nov one really left me speechless and was definitely unexpected.
Well... with these, who knows whats around the corner?


Thank you @kipp @Sourisbrune for clarified this confusion!
I think there is no more original style taupe available anywhere now, but I might be wrong.


Hahahaha... I like your method, maths-wise it works perfectly and make sense.
Hope you will find your -20% Fleur for your -20% Strap!

I was told that there were no black or taupe original Danse available in the world right now, too, @littleunicorn.

 

[Bagaholic222]

I totally agreeing with you @Tonimichelle!
The items I bought during the sale, mostly are the ones I had my eyes on and didn't pick up back then, personally quite like Ramesh's design so making the most of this opportunity to added them to my collections.
It would take a lot to convince me to spend money on their full price items/new collections for a good while, I will also be wondering if it'll be available at -40% or even half price - been there and IMO it's enough.
Also I seconded that they have somewhat devalued the brand, its not the same!


One of the reason I bought Moynat is the same as you, I don'y buy bags from companies that have an outlet and whose bags go on sale. The June sale already took my by surprise, but this Nov one really left me speechless and was definitely unexpected.
Well... with these, who knows whats around the corner?


Thank you @kipp @Sourisbrune for clarified this confusion!
I think there is no more original style taupe available anywhere now, but I might be wrong.


Hahahaha... I like your method, maths-wise it works perfectly and make sense.
Hope you will find your -20% Fleur for your -20% Strap!

I agree with all your sentiments. I was extremely thankful to be able to add to my collection styles that were on my short list in such a short period of time. However, I am also cognizant that my enjoyment and appreciation of these new items have not been as great as if I had deliberately planned and added them over time. After my initial excitement on the sale, I reevaluated my love of the brand and this sale has diminished it significantly. I am not able to properly admire or use the bags, and I am treating them like they're mass produced rather than the hand-made beauties that they are. Sorry for ranting.

 

[Hermesanity]

It’s the forever part that gets me @Sourisbrune. It’s no secret that I love my Pauline just as much as / if not more than my Birkin (The design, the craftsmanship and the fact it is so subtle / under the radar). However with Hermes I know that they will continue to repair my bag and worst case scenario they still make it so a replacement would be an option (if funds allowed, so definitely not right now!). I wanted that from Moynat too I guess. I’m not concerned with reselling, more where the company is going. Will they repair it in 10 years? I definitely won’t be able to get a replacement!

I can't agree more with this. It's one of the reasons why I went and bought multiple Josephines - I don't come across a bag that ticks so many boxes for me often - great leather, detailed design, excellent craftsmanship, combined with ease of use. I don't know how long it would take for me to find a replacement style in the future and the repairment aspect still seems untested.

 

[Hermesanity]

I agree with all your sentiments. I was extremely thankful to be able to add to my collection styles that were on my short list in such a short period of time. However, I am also cognizant that my enjoyment and appreciation of these new items have not been as great as if I had deliberately planned and added them over time. After my initial excitement on the sale, I reevaluated my love of the brand and this sale has diminished it significantly. I am not able to properly admire or use the bags, and I am treating them like they're mass produced rather than the hand-made beauties that they are. Sorry for ranting.

I can't agree more. It feels like the end of an era. Bittersweet that many of us were able to find good deals on some beautifully designed and constructed bags but I think it is going to take me a while to get the brand back to where it used to be in how I viewed them even just a few weeks ago assuming I will like the new creative direction - which I am questioning given the awful totes. I liked knowing a bag won't go on sale so I didn't have to time my purchases - it's a very different shopping experience when you have to ask yourself is this item going to be X percent off down the line? It's a bit of a slap in the face when an item you waited in anticipation for is now being treated like seconds in a fire sale. I had made purchases thinking I was buying into something with more permanence, but the sales and hurry to discontinue old designs have diminished that. If they don't treat their own products with respect, how can they expect clients to do the same for the brand?

 

[bagnut1]

@bagnut1 @littleunicorn @Sourisbrune I feel you all on the full price/sale price issue. I tell myself, adding a Fleur on sale will make it seems like I got a 20% discount on both bags, instead of paying 60% for Fleur and full price on my Strap. Oh the excuses I make to justify my want.

Speaking of want, SA sent me a photo of this Gabby PM in powder– the white bag I'vebeen looking for. I hope they release it in BB size.


P.s. I hope these sales are really to clear Ramesh-design stock, and won't become an annual ritual/strategy to boost sales. Otherwise I am quite worried about quality of future bags.
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OMG that is fantastic! If there were a snowball's chance in hell that I could carry a white bag without immediately ruining it and/or going crazy I would snap that right up!

 

[optimisticqt]

I agree that it is an end if an era. I'm looking at 2021 Moynat as a whole new relationship – branding, product quality, utility, customer service – all that will reset. At the very least, I hope quality won't decrease until I'm able to collect all the Ramesh's designs on my list. (Ahem Gaby in Powder )



If that doesn't pan out, well....the past few months have shown me how integral the creative director is to the brand, so whatever good will Moynat has accumulated up until now may just follow Ramesh on his new journey, and that's exciting too!

 

[mystar9898]

Hi M tpf fam, nice catching up on the thread again! I've said enough about the legacy sales in previous comments so won't add more except agree with some of you.

Has anyone seen the official Moynat Instagram post with the new macarons featuring the medallion signature? I can see what they are trying to do and while I am not a big fan of the logomania, I would go for this any day over the medallion all over (and even in halves!) on the Oh Tote. Only thing is that for these macarons, they've dropped the marquetry technique and I hope that's not a permanent change. I love and appreciate the leather marquetry that M does so well and artisans put so much effort into.



I also see the next Instagram post which is about their craftsmanship and artistry, so I do hope that stays in the branding and more importantly, reflects in the actual design and production. I find myself looking at their official Instagram now where they seem to be more active virtually to try getting some hints about the relaunch, but that's really all I can do at this point, while we wait.

For what it's worth, my SA in my part of the world has said to me that they prioritized their loyal customers like us for the private sale and while new customers who had heard about the sale are definitely keeping them busy until now, many of them can't find what they want anymore as they've already been offered to the customers they know. We still all got first dibs

In better news, after a huge typhoon hit my region and many others not as lucky as I am to have experienced just some minor impact and inconveniences, my Oct/Nov legacy sale babies are finally making their way to me... my SA and my friend sent me so many photos and videos of my bags. It sound so trivial but I am sure you will all understand that it made me day!! I saw the color and detail in these photos and videos and just got excited again, after a tough 24 hours. And that's why I'll keep coming back to this thread, not to mention all of the well thought out discussions here by you lovely posters.

I hope you all are well and have a happy weekend

 

[konacoffee]

Hi all!

It's been interesting reading through the thread about the way this sale has been handled. My introduction to Moynat was earlier this year and I was really taken in by how good the quality was for the price. As for brand prestige, I find I only really care about it when considering resale value, but beyond that the "cheapening" of Moynat's image doesn't bother me much. I suppose this is because I am relatively new to the brand though.

Even though I was near the tail end of the "era", I do sense what some people are talking about it. I'm not sure what my relationship with Moynat will be going forward to be honest. I can admit I am not the most discerning when it comes to grading leather quality/craftsmanship (as in I watched some videos to see what to look out for and that's about it.) But even to my untrained eyes, I could immediately tell that Moynat's quality was on another level compared to Chanel's or any other brand I had bought before. The sales definitely spurred more spending than I'd normally do in one year, but I would've been a repeat customer even without at a slower pace simply because the quality and CS at Moynat was so good for me.

Unrelated but my SA found me a purple Danse PM at a discount! I was so tempted to take it, but I simply cannot justify 2 Danse PM's at this time. Ahh please talk some sense into me (or get my SA's details from me so you can buy it and take this temptation away from me!) Hahaha.

 

[konacoffee]

So....I might've done a thing.
Before I was thinking I should only get one nubuck Danse in the PM size. I'm really in love with the way the nubuck has such a rich color. For awhile my plan was to somehow get only the purple Danse PM and no other Danses.

However, I have been looking for a replacement for my YSL puffer bag. I love the functionality and the edginess of it, but I always felt like it would get dated and moreover, I wasn't always in the mood for a large logo. ...you might see where this is going already.

Last week I put down a deposit for a Boreal Green Danse MM and it came in yesterday. I carried it out with me today and I love how functional and lightweight it is.

I did put down a deposit for the black Danse PM as well and will hopefully get it sometime next week. To be honest, a part of me still wants that purple Danse PM. When my SA found it for me, I seriously considered canceling my black Danse PM to get the purple one instead. However, when I think of how I intend on using my Danse PM and how I would wear a purple bag, I realized it was a risky purchase even though I love the color and I love the Danse. I know exactly how and which outfits will go with my Black Danse and the purple...not so much.

I've attached some mod shots of the Danse MM here! Thanks to all you lovely people for making this forum a great and interactive space!

 

[m_ichele]

So....I might've done a thing.
Before I was thinking I should only get one nubuck Danse in the PM size. I'm really in love with the way the nubuck has such a rich color. For awhile my plan was to somehow get only the purple Danse PM and no other Danses.

However, I have been looking for a replacement for my YSL puffer bag. I love the functionality and the edginess of it, but I always felt like it would get dated and moreover, I wasn't always in the mood for a large logo. ...you might see where this is going already.

Last week I put down a deposit for a Boreal Green Danse MM and it came in yesterday. I carried it out with me today and I love how functional and lightweight it is.

I did put down a deposit for the black Danse PM as well and will hopefully get it sometime next week. To be honest, a part of me still wants that purple Danse PM. When my SA found it for me, I seriously considered canceling my black Danse PM to get the purple one instead. However, when I think of how I intend on using my Danse PM and how I would wear a purple bag, I realized it was a risky purchase even though I love the color and I love the Danse. I know exactly how and which outfits will go with my Black Danse and the purple...not so much.

I've attached some mod shots of the Danse MM here! Thanks to all you lovely people for making this forum a great and interactive space!



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What a gorgeous color!! And mm danse looks fantastic on you Congratulations and I can’t wait to see you with your black pm! Bag twins

 

[mystar9898]

So....I might've done a thing.
Before I was thinking I should only get one nubuck Danse in the PM size. I'm really in love with the way the nubuck has such a rich color. For awhile my plan was to somehow get only the purple Danse PM and no other Danses.

However, I have been looking for a replacement for my YSL puffer bag. I love the functionality and the edginess of it, but I always felt like it would get dated and moreover, I wasn't always in the mood for a large logo. ...you might see where this is going already.

Last week I put down a deposit for a Boreal Green Danse MM and it came in yesterday. I carried it out with me today and I love how functional and lightweight it is.

I did put down a deposit for the black Danse PM as well and will hopefully get it sometime next week. To be honest, a part of me still wants that purple Danse PM. When my SA found it for me, I seriously considered canceling my black Danse PM to get the purple one instead. However, when I think of how I intend on using my Danse PM and how I would wear a purple bag, I realized it was a risky purchase even though I love the color and I love the Danse. I know exactly how and which outfits will go with my Black Danse and the purple...not so much.

I've attached some mod shots of the Danse MM here! Thanks to all you lovely people for making this forum a great and interactive space!



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I think you pull it off so well! Congratulations and so happy for you! Ahhhh all these Danse photos make me want one, too. Be still, my heart! And try to stay in ban island!

PS - I'm about to let my YSL Loulou puffer (also in medium) go, as well! I loved how lightweight it was but also feel it will date very easily soon.

 

[Panthere2015]

So....I might've done a thing.
Before I was thinking I should only get one nubuck Danse in the PM size. I'm really in love with the way the nubuck has such a rich color. For awhile my plan was to somehow get only the purple Danse PM and no other Danses.

However, I have been looking for a replacement for my YSL puffer bag. I love the functionality and the edginess of it, but I always felt like it would get dated and moreover, I wasn't always in the mood for a large logo. ...you might see where this is going already.

Last week I put down a deposit for a Boreal Green Danse MM and it came in yesterday. I carried it out with me today and I love how functional and lightweight it is.

I did put down a deposit for the black Danse PM as well and will hopefully get it sometime next week. To be honest, a part of me still wants that purple Danse PM. When my SA found it for me, I seriously considered canceling my black Danse PM to get the purple one instead. However, when I think of how I intend on using my Danse PM and how I would wear a purple bag, I realized it was a risky purchase even though I love the color and I love the Danse. I know exactly how and which outfits will go with my Black Danse and the purple...not so much.

I've attached some mod shots of the Danse MM here! Thanks to all you lovely people for making this forum a great and interactive space!



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That is a beautiful colour. I now want a Danse as well.

 

[Hermesanity]

So....I might've done a thing.
Before I was thinking I should only get one nubuck Danse in the PM size. I'm really in love with the way the nubuck has such a rich color. For awhile my plan was to somehow get only the purple Danse PM and no other Danses.

However, I have been looking for a replacement for my YSL puffer bag. I love the functionality and the edginess of it, but I always felt like it would get dated and moreover, I wasn't always in the mood for a large logo. ...you might see where this is going already.

Last week I put down a deposit for a Boreal Green Danse MM and it came in yesterday. I carried it out with me today and I love how functional and lightweight it is.

I did put down a deposit for the black Danse PM as well and will hopefully get it sometime next week. To be honest, a part of me still wants that purple Danse PM. When my SA found it for me, I seriously considered canceling my black Danse PM to get the purple one instead. However, when I think of how I intend on using my Danse PM and how I would wear a purple bag, I realized it was a risky purchase even though I love the color and I love the Danse. I know exactly how and which outfits will go with my Black Danse and the purple...not so much.

I've attached some mod shots of the Danse MM here! Thanks to all you lovely people for making this forum a great and interactive space!



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The Danse looks beautiful on you! And it is such a yummy colour as well. Congratulations!!!