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Interesting. I'm surprised that Dupont doesn't require their registered trademark symbol on items where the fabric is "ballistic."
Not bulletproof, but strong enough to hopefully prevent injury from shrapnel or other flying debris. At least that was its original purpose, the definition has changed a bit over time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_nylon
"The original specification for ballistic nylon was an 18 ounce nylon fabric made from 1050 denier high tenacity nylon yarn in a 2×2 basketweave. Today the term is often used to refer to any nylon fabric that is made with a "ballistic weave", typically a 2×2 or 2×3 basketweave. It can be woven from nylon yarns of various denier such as 840 denier and 1680 denier. Denier refers to the weight, not the strength, of the fabric. Laboratory tests[by whom?] have shown that double weave 1050 denier fabric is the strongest and most durable fabric for its denier weight level.[citation needed] The 1680 denier has a similar strength but lighter weight than the 1050, and it resists abrasion and tearing."
"... The nylon type was not effective against most pistol and rifle bullets, let alone the heavy 20 mm and 30 mm autocannons Axis powers were often armed with. Thus ballistic nylon was replaced by Kevlar and other more bullet-resistant fabrics..."
Since it isn't exactly the same fabric that DuPont developed for wartime use, I expect that's why it's not trademarked, it's just a general description of a weave rather than a fabric with specific properties.
And I wonder if items developed by US companies for wartime use were often even trademarked? Back then, creating new things for the wartime effort might have actually been thought more important and more patriotic than slapping a trademark on them to make money from them after the war ended.
Thank you everyone!!!Those Coaches are spot on. I knew there had to be a real bag that looks similar and you guys nailed it. I am on the hunt for those vintage Coaches now. They are perfect!! Thank you all, you gals are the best.
@katev thank you. I just bought that brown beauty. Can't wait to receive it.
That's great, let us know how you like it!
Here's a random question. Are there collectors of Reed Krakoff bags? He was the Coach lead designer for years, and then he started his own line that didn't last very long. Those bags were REALLY expensive, beautiful, made of deerskin. I was able to acquire one recently, very cheaply, and I love it. I got it thinking I'd resell, but now that I have it I am kind of sentimental about it because I am a Coach fanatic and collector, and I feel like it's part of the brand history, in a way. (Coach invested millions in Krakoff's spinoff brand). BUT, Krakoff was widely panned for ditching his company when it didn't take off like he expected. So it also kinda has some bad karma. What do you think?
I don't think there is any collectible value in Krakoff bags. When he made the Kohl's line out of fake leather, that kind of killed the brand's identity for me. I have one Reed Krakoff bag that I bought when he was going out of business. It has the best leather. His bags were simple, made of fantastic leather, but I feel he wasn't well known outside of Coach, and the prices were too high for most Coach fans. There were very few places you could see the bags in person. If they had allowed him to have a tiny display in Coach stores, I bet it would have really helped the brand succeed.
Which bag did you get? I love some of the hobos but most are too big for me.
Thank you. It's the RDK hobo in blue, like this one (this isn't my listing):
https://www.tradesy.com/i/reed-krakoff-rdk-hobo-bag-cobalt-blue-16720933/16720933/
Mine is missing the hangtag and inside needs to be cleaned. Outside looks great. It's BIG. But big hobos are in right now. I love the leather and the hardware. I only paid $20 for it, so I think I might clean it up and keep it for myself since there may not be much market for it. I love the leather Coach bags and I kind of feel like this fits with my collection somehow.
And yes, every listing I see for these says "NOT KOHLS!" I don't know why brands do that to themselves. I see the same thing with Lela Rose dresses. They are $2K at Neiman's but there was a cheap Target line, a Lane Bryant line, a Loft line. I guess there's money to be made there, but it sure does cheapen the image of the brand.
wow, $20! That's an amazing price! I love these hobos but they are just too big. They came in wonderful colors. I have the 510 bag in cordovan. I paid $223.50 for it from the outlet. I love the leather and the color but I wish I could make the strap shorter. It doesn't slouch like it does in the picture with the strap so long.
Hi, Can I ask an authentication question?Hi Coachies!!!
I'm starting a new chat thread for all generic chatter, not necessarily Coach related. This is our own little place to chit chat about anything on our minds, and hopefully we can get to know each other a little better.
Let the discussions begin!!
Not here. We have a thread for that.
This thread is for authentication of a specific item: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach-see-first-post-for-format.889527/ Make sure you read the first post to see what we require.
This thread is for general authentication questions: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/answers-to-authenticity-questions.94198/
That is really pretty!! Could a leather shop make you another hole in the strap, so you could shorten it? The Krakoff hardware is ... interesting. I don't even know if it's adjustable or just for show?
Thanks! On my bag it is adjustable. I kind of like the unique hardware.The holes are long ovals, which would be hard to duplicate. I don't want to do a bad alteration job. If I shortened the strap to where I wanted it, the end of the strap would hang below the bag. I'm thinking of doing something to pinch the strap at the top but then there would be a weird loop. I feel like the bigger the bag, the shorter I want the strap. The way it is now, it looks more like a messenger bag, hanging at my hip. The leather is amazing. It never scratches or shows any kind of wear.