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Just a girl,

You're really overly dramatic about this.
A bag is not the purpose of ones life.
Judging a person by the bag she carries is ridiculous.

My boss is a billionaire and his favorite thing is some cheap Chinese pouchette. I purchased an Hermes pouche for his bday but he says it's too heavy and he's just used to his Pouche, it's very smart organized inside. Some Chinese worker did a good job with this fake leather ugly thing.
And his wife has a bag that kind of looks like a fake mono LV Alma but different signs of the mono. He bought it for her on their vacation 20 years for her and she loves it. She carries it with pride just like her crocodile Kelly and other expensive items.

Bags and brands don't define people.
 
Just a girl,

You're really overly dramatic about this.
A bag is not the purpose of ones life.
Judging a person by the bag she carries is ridiculous.

My boss is a billionaire and his favorite thing is some cheap Chinese pouchette. I purchased an Hermes pouche for his bday but he says it's too heavy and he's just used to his Pouche, it's very smart organized inside. Some Chinese worker did a good job with this fake leather ugly thing.
And his wife has a bag that kind of looks like a fake mono LV Alma but different signs of the mono. He bought it for her on their vacation 20 years for her and she loves it. She carries it with pride just like her crocodile Kelly and other expensive items.

Bags and brands don't define people.






The bags you mentioned in your reply sound as if they might be inspired bag. Inspired bags are NOT the issue, NOR are cheap leather bags made in China.
OP was talking about actual COUNTERFEIT bags that are illegal.
Europe is more strict about this, in France it can be a fine of a few THOUSAND Euros just for OWNING a fake handbag. Personally, I hope this catches on around the world.

As for the accusations, perhaps YOU have mistaken me for somebody else on this thread??

You accuse me of Judging a person by the bag she carries. THEN you accuse me of insinuating that Bags and brands define people.


Can you please show me what I said that would give you the impression that I think "bags and brands define a person" ?
Or, what I said that lead you to believe that I feel it is OK to "Judge a person by the bag she carries" ?
and perhaps what I said that was suggesting that "a bag is the purpose of ones life?"

Fact is, I didn't judge or criticize OP for buying the counterfeit bags.

My first post, I simply suggested that she destroy them, make a Youtube Video maybe a Counterfeiting PSA…

My next posts I went on to give detailed examples of what can happen once OP gives these to somebody else.

This is how it often happens. A friend gives away her fake bags to her friend or acquaintance.
That friend ends up giving the bags to somebody else, and eventually the bags end up on ebay, or in a Thrift Shop. NOT because the friend is dishonest or anything, but, because they then passed the bags to one of their friends, or maybe down the line, somebody throws them away, and somebody else finds the fake bags, and cleans them up to sell to somebody else.. .. etc… etc… My concern is that this can have expensive consequences for INNOCENT people down the line.

By the way, I don't care about the NAME brands.. That was never my point. I don't care if there is some cheap leather bag.

My point is that ONCE those fake/ Counterfeit bags are in somebody else's hands, OP no longer has any control as to where they eventually end up, whether that be a Thrift Shop or on ebay.

Fake bags end up costing BUYERS on ebay a LOT of money, time and stress. The MINIMUM a buyer will lose on ebay from unknowingly buying a fake bag is roughly $50, that can also jump to $2,000 PLUS, if they did not know to have it authenticated when they bought it. Most people don't know to have bags authenticated or where to have this done. That is just the reality of the secondary market.

Perhaps if you spent time on the ebay sub-forum and spent your time helping buyers get their money back after they have been sold a Fake/ COUNTERFEIT bag, then maybe you would understand WHY I am so passionately against disposing of fake bags in this manner.
I've seen it TOO many times, here on tPF and on ebay forums.
This is why I spend some of my free time helping Buyers get their hard-earned money back, after they have been sold one of these fake bags.


The Reality is, I haven't even touched on the Social and Political ramifications of the Counterfeit business.

The Human toll ..
Human Trafficking.
Child Labor
Dangerous Labor conditions
Sweatshops
Slavery
Organized crime
The damage they do to the environment
and the fact that they fund Terrorist Organizations.


"'I remember walking into an assembly plant in Thailand a couple of years ago and seeing six or seven little children, all under 10 years old, sitting on the floor assembling counterfeit leather handbags,' an investigator told me... 'The owners had broken the children's legs and tied the lower leg to the thigh so the bones wouldn't mend. [They] did it because the children said they wanted to go outside and play.'"

From the book, Deluxe: How Luxury Lost Its Luster.


But, hey, you think I am being overly dramatic.


Then for somebody to use the argument: the bag is somebody's hard work, and it's a shame to waste it.
That is just completely turning a blind eye to the realities of the counterfeiting business… and attempting to dress it up as something that it ISN'T.

These bags have a LOT of very toxic chemicals.. These are NOT made by fine leather.
These are LITERALLY made by Slaves and Child Labor.

HOW can that be a handbag worth keeping?


Like somebody else pointed out:

If this was a Counterfeit $20 Bill, would you still want to give it to a friend or keep it, because it was somebody's hard work?

Of course NOT, because they are ILLEGAL!!



THE FIGHT AGAINST FAKES
Child labor, terrorism, human trafficking: Buying counterfeit designer goods is hardly harmless, Dana Thomas reports


http://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a359/the-fight-against-fakes-0109/



http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/10/14/fashion-counterfeit-handbags/2984293/



http://fightthefaux.blogspot.se

Children are also the victims of counterfeiting. It is reported that children between the ages of 13 and 15, who come from single parent families in China, are forced to send the children into the cities in order to survive, should the parent become ill. There are also children that are orphans or separated from their parents, and put together goods night and day in sweatshops producing fake Gucci and Burberry bags (to name a few). The only education they receive are the skills needed for the assembly line. They eat what they are given, which is usually plain rice. They also live in squalor, sleeping on rotten wooden floors. The young, the vulnerable, the oppressed, the exploited, are the humble foot soldiers to counterfeiting. However, China is not the only place exploiting children. Raids carried out in New York’s Brooklyn suburb have found similar conditions. They found illegal workers hiding in filthy cellars serving as counterfeiting sweatshops. Sometimes the workers are even locked in so that they cannot escape, even in the event of a fire. These sweatshops are run by organized crime rings. (icc-ccs.co.uk)

Some counterfeit operations go to extreme lengths to keep the children working. It has been testified that children in counterfeiting factories in China have had their legs broken and improperly reset so that they cannot leave or go out to play.
 
I feel like im talking to a wall.

If you think your handbag was different just because you paid a few grand on it then you are seriously mistaken. Even so, you are destroying someone's hard work. Fakes are always going to be around just get over it. If people are too dumb to not look into something then they deserve what they get.

That's all im going to say on this thread.


I feel like im talking to a wall.

Well, isn't that nice.


If you think your handbag was different just because you paid a few grand on it then you are seriously mistaken.


From what you wrote, you think that Counterfeit bags are exactly the same as the authentic bags? Same quality? Same leather and materials?
Just to reiterate: You really believe that the counterfeit bags are of equal quality and materials as the authentic bags?

If you believe this, you would be greatly mistaken.



Fakes are always going to be around just get over it

Just because fakes are always going to be around, does NOT mean we should accept them, and accept how fakes are being made now, and what types of crimes they are funding.
Human Trafficking is always going to be around as well,
should I just get over it, and accept that as well?


You said: Even so, you are destroying someone's hard work.

Yeah, Child slave labor from a sweatshop. Still worth keeping?

you also said: If people are too dumb to not look into something then they deserve what they get.

Ok, That was telling. (smh)

NO, they do NOT deserve to get ripped off just because they are not aware of authentication services. They trusted the sellers they bought the fakes from.
There is NOTHING wrong with trusting people and having a good heart, I LOVE that there are still trusting people in the world.
So, again, NO, they don't deserve to be ripped off.
I will spend DAYS bending over backwards to help those buyers in any way I can to get their money back.




"'I remember walking into an assembly plant in Thailand a couple of years ago and seeing six or seven little children, all under 10 years old, sitting on the floor assembling counterfeit leather handbags,' an investigator told me... 'The owners had broken the children's legs and tied the lower leg to the thigh so the bones wouldn't mend. [They] did it because the children said they wanted to go outside and play.'"

From the book, Deluxe: How Luxury Lost Its Luster.

Now, can you understand why I don't care if it is destroying someone's hard work?
 
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Slothbear

I was once at a fake bags shop in Istanbul at the Kipalicarsi.
They sell only fakes in Istanbul and oh so many. And make them right next door. Turkey is known for the great quality leather work and good leather professionals. Not 13 years old kids (who comes up with that nonsense?) but regular leather professionals including the owners of the stores. Their families have history of leather work from their great great grandfathers.

At that store They had wonderful leather and great quality so I asked why they don't make some original designs. They said its due to the high demand on designer bags and not regular bags.
I don't remember exactly the brands but they had very real looking bags including the texture of the leather. Dior bags were absolutely the same. Chanel caviar leather flags were identical including the stamps and metal work. LV canvas were absolutely the same. I could see Hermes fakes were not good due to the metal work and stamps but leather was the same texture (Togo and clemence).
That's why I never buy bags online and only at the boutiques. Fakes can be extremely good and even I couldn't see the difference.

The guy made me a wonderful bag by my request and he stamped my name on it. he used the leather they use forHermes clemence bags ;) I love this bag. It costed me 300$ or so but its stunning.
Next year I went back and he made me gorgeous sandals 50$ each pair. I wore them for hours and days and never got blisters or tired legs because those sandals were so soft and comfortable. Next year I'll go back and buy more from him.
 
Prozac.
And Jesus.

Good luck.

+1

on another note. someone said earlier, you burning the bags does nothing to the counterfeiters, you already paid your money. The best advice is DON'T buy them, but if you already did, DON'T waste them. I like the ideas of using them as storage.

and sorry to break it to some of you, many of the "legal" things out here, some high end bags included have hazards. But I can ASSURE you, you should be more concerned about the hazards of your FOOD than some knock off you bought! that's what's destroying your health!
 
Ok keep in mind not every person is as well informed about handbags as the people on this forum. Keep in mind that to you or me, a fake may be obvious but to those who don't follow fashion or handbags much it likely isn't. To be quite honest i think a fake handbag is the least of a interviewers worries, they aren't going to not hire someone just because they have a fake handbag, that's silly.

Also in terms to everyone saying that the next person who may have possession of the handbag can then turn around and try to resell it and pass it off as a real item. That's a lot of 'what if's' in my opinion. You could also POSSIBLY get hit by car while crossing the street. Does that stop you from crossing the street, no. Also you have to put some responsibility on the buyer too, if i were purchasing a handbag worth any amount of money from an online auction website(or really anywhere else other than an authorized retailer) i would get it authenticated and do my research to make sure that what i was buying wasn't a 'fake'.

I'm not saying i agree with the selling or buying of fake handbags but what's done is done and saying destroying the handbag is the only way is a little harsh.

+1 I completely agree with everything said here. Giving them to charity shops/reselling is unethical, but giving them away hurts no one. There is no point in dwelling on the "what ifs".

FWIW, My former colleague carried a rather obviously fake Prada bag for years. She made enough money to buy the real thing but was not interested in fashion. She was the smartest and hardest working person in my department. I can't imagine an interviewer holding it against her, and anyone outside of the fashion industry who would be as interested in a woman's choice of handbag than her work ethic & talent should probably not be working in HR.
 
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