I received a gift recently of a Coach bag from a friend who knows I love bags. I found the same issue thin leather with stiff backing fortunately it came with a gift receipt and although I felt awful returning it I knew I would never use it because I have become really spoiled by MM quality. Having said that I have some Coach bags from the 1980's when they were made in the USA from beautiful thick leather which I still have. The patina on them is amazing and the still look great. The money from the Coach return when towards another MM bag!!!On a somewhat related note , I saw an MK Whitney satchel this weekend that has a similar shape to a Zhoe. I liked the size, the colors, and the external pocket. It's also less expensive . Then I felt the leather . It had a good enough texture but I could tell it was thin with a stiff backing. It didn't feel as luxurious as my MM bags. In the past I would have purchased it. Now I would create a similar MM.