I will try to get some pics tomorrow in daylight, as the violet merinos looks so much better in natural light than under incandescent light.
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I like cramming my cardholder and makeup bag and ipad in there as a day to day bag!
It would definitely work as an evening bag or special event bag when you don’t need as much.
Carterazo, was this a mistake by the company? Did they send you Phoebes when you ordered Floras? Or did you intend to order Floras but mistakenly ordered Phoebes instead?
No, I ordered Phoebes and got Phoebes. [emoji5]
What happened is that when you talked about your Floras, my mind went, oh that's great, that's what I just got! There's something else I can do with them. Completely forgetting what I had actually bought. [emoji15] [emoji12] [emoji28] I got my cables completely crossed! [emoji44]
Using my flora and card holder as wallet/wristlet/bag.
My Trinity order has arrived! I placed an order for a Dark Green Trinity Penelope Messenger (silver hardware and dark grey lining, and customised with a removable shoulder strap, no change to the default length), and a Dark Blue Trinity Penelope Midi (silver hardware, added accessory strap, and lilac lining). The Penny Messenger is also customised with a D-ring inserted in the main compartment for an accessory strap -- I wanted this for added security for any small items that I place in the main compartment (so I can "leash" these items to the bag), since I went with the default magnetic closure this time, instead of adding the zipper closure for the main compartment.
Comparison pics of the Dark Green Trinity Penelope Messenger, Dark Blue Trinity Penelope Midi, and my Chocolate Verona Penelope Messenger -- the first two pics are under white fluorescent lighting only, while the next two pics are under a mix of daylight and white fluorescent lighting (pics are fairly colour accurate in tone, although it may be a bit darker IRL with less bright lighting):
Now, one thing that I observed with the Penelope Midi is that the grain is a lot smaller than on the Dark Green Trinity, and overall, the leather looks and feels a lot more like my Chocolate Verona leather than the Dark Green Trinity -- very soft and supple to the touch, with the sheen to it not being overwhelming, and feels quite thin too (although the construction of Penny Midi obviously differs from the Penny Messengers). The Dark Green Trinity, on the other hand, is similar to how HopelessBagGirl described her Beige Trinity Aura -- fairly plasticky in feel, with more of a thicker coating than the bit of sheen on the Verona leather. I actually suspect that they may have made my Penny Midi with Verona leather instead of Trinity (although the tag does say Trinity), although I haven't raised this with MM to confirm. If this was the case, I'm actually quite happy with what I got instead!
Another thing with the Dark Green Trinity is that the colour of the dye doesn't seem to penetrate too far into the leather. There are a few spots where the leather is folded, where the top layer almost looks like it has cracked, and the light leather under it shows through -- and since the colour of the top layer is so dark, this does make it quite noticeable. I also notice this with parts of the leather/strap that bend -- e.g. when I have to bend the strap at the buckle when adjusting the length, etc. I've emailed MM about this already, and will basically KIV updating MM if this gets worse with use.
Comparison pics of the Dark Green Trinity Penelope Messenger, Dark Blue Trinity Penelope Midi, and my Chocolate Verona Penelope Messenger -- the first two pics are under white fluorescent lighting only, while the next two pics are under a mix of daylight and white fluorescent lighting (pics are fairly colour accurate in tone, although it may be a bit darker IRL with less bright lighting):
Now, one thing that I observed with the Penelope Midi is that the grain is a lot smaller than on the Dark Green Trinity, and overall, the leather looks and feels a lot more like my Chocolate Verona leather than the Dark Green Trinity -- very soft and supple to the touch, with the sheen to it not being overwhelming, and feels quite thin too (although the construction of Penny Midi obviously differs from the Penny Messengers). The Dark Green Trinity, on the other hand, is similar to how HopelessBagGirl described her Beige Trinity Aura -- fairly plasticky in feel, with more of a thicker coating than the bit of sheen on the Verona leather. I actually suspect that they may have made my Penny Midi with Verona leather instead of Trinity (although the tag does say Trinity), although I haven't raised this with MM to confirm. If this was the case, I'm actually quite happy with what I got instead!
Another thing with the Dark Green Trinity is that the colour of the dye doesn't seem to penetrate too far into the leather. There are a few spots where the leather is folded, where the top layer almost looks like it has cracked, and the light leather under it shows through -- and since the colour of the top layer is so dark, this does make it quite noticeable. I also notice this with parts of the leather/strap that bend -- e.g. when I have to bend the strap at the buckle when adjusting the length, etc. I've emailed MM about this already, and will basically KIV updating MM if this gets worse with use.
A few other reference pictures:
The D-ring inserted in the main compartment of the Penelope Messenger:
Lilac lining in the Dark Blue Trinity (Verona?) Penelope Midi:
Comparisons of Dark Green Trinity with Forest Merinos and Dark Green Vachetta -- taken under a mix of daylight and white fluorescent lighting, fairly colour accurate, I think:
And for those who own or have seen MZ Wallace's Mallard Oxford material, here's a comparison for good measure too (under fluorescent lighting, but still fairly colour accurate, I think) -- the Mallard is more of an evergreen-ish dark green (with more pronounced blue tones to the green), whereas the Dark Green Trinity definitely has less of those blue tones.
Will cross-post this to the reference thread too!
The D-ring inserted in the main compartment of the Penelope Messenger:
Lilac lining in the Dark Blue Trinity (Verona?) Penelope Midi:
Comparisons of Dark Green Trinity with Forest Merinos and Dark Green Vachetta -- taken under a mix of daylight and white fluorescent lighting, fairly colour accurate, I think:
And for those who own or have seen MZ Wallace's Mallard Oxford material, here's a comparison for good measure too (under fluorescent lighting, but still fairly colour accurate, I think) -- the Mallard is more of an evergreen-ish dark green (with more pronounced blue tones to the green), whereas the Dark Green Trinity definitely has less of those blue tones.
Will cross-post this to the reference thread too!
Ah... I ordered the dark green trinity as well since I didn’t get to order the dark green Verona. You’re making my heart throb a bit here since the color isn’t really what I expect from seeing the dark green Verona here. [emoji20] I hope it look better IRL and that I’ll like it when I get mine. [emoji17]
Oh no, I'm so sorry that this may not be what you're expecting, vink... I think I did go in with Dark Green Trinity expecting a tonal difference with Dark Green Verona (I had saved pics of all the Verona swatches when I was making my decision on my Verona Penny Messenger, and also seen someone's Dark Green Verona comparison with Vachetta here), but looking back even at the swatch colour for Dark Green Trinity from the email, the leather still is a bit different IRL from what I expected from the swatch pic, to my eye at least.It still is a lovely dark green in person, though, just with more of that pure green / emerald/leafy-green tone to it than the evergreen/bluish tone that DG Verona seems to have. It is darker than how it appears on my screen from my pics, though (since the lighting in my pics is overall really kinda bright), so I hope this helps a bit! If you have swatches of Dark Green Vachetta, I'd say it is a touch lighter than that, but otherwise fairly similar in tone. (It's so difficult trying to judge these colours off of just a few online pictures, especially when they offer the leathers only for a limited time / sales promo.
)I've attached a few more pics of the DG Trinity with the MZ Wallace Mallard Oxford, Balenciaga's Poker Fonce from F/W 2012*, comparisons with the Dark Green Vachetta and Forest Merinos swatches, and a MZ Wallace market purse in (I think) Forest Bedford (with rose gold hardware) thrown in for good measure (definitely more of an olivey-toned green). Pics are all taken with a mix of daylight and white fluorescent lighting, so it's coming up bright again (though the first pic turns up darker and a bit closer to IRL as a result).
* - Poker Fonce was actually the colour I was hoping DG Trinity would emulate, but Poker Fonce has a touch more blue in it -- it's coming up more evergreen-ish in these pics than it does IRL, though, and it actually lands somewhere in between Dark Green Vachetta and MZW's Mallard Oxford.
It still is a lovely dark green in person, though, just with more of that pure green / emerald/leafy-green tone to it than the evergreen/bluish tone that DG Verona seems to have. It is darker than how it appears on my screen from my pics, though (since the lighting in my pics is overall really kinda bright), so I hope this helps a bit! If you have swatches of Dark Green Vachetta, I'd say it is a touch lighter than that, but otherwise fairly similar in tone. (It's so difficult trying to judge these colours off of just a few online pictures, especially when they offer the leathers only for a limited time / sales promo.
I've attached a few more pics of the DG Trinity with the MZ Wallace Mallard Oxford, Balenciaga's Poker Fonce from F/W 2012*, comparisons with the Dark Green Vachetta and Forest Merinos swatches, and a MZ Wallace market purse in (I think) Forest Bedford (with rose gold hardware) thrown in for good measure (definitely more of an olivey-toned green). Pics are all taken with a mix of daylight and white fluorescent lighting, so it's coming up bright again (though the first pic turns up darker and a bit closer to IRL as a result).
* - Poker Fonce was actually the colour I was hoping DG Trinity would emulate, but Poker Fonce has a touch more blue in it -- it's coming up more evergreen-ish in these pics than it does IRL, though, and it actually lands somewhere in between Dark Green Vachetta and MZW's Mallard Oxford.
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Thank you very much for your help and all the comparison work. I guess I’ll have to wait and see. [emoji20] (It’s kind of really bad that I’m into bluish green. [emoji21]) But normally, MM always exceed my expectation so I hope it keeps up this time.
I am also a die hard blue-undertones-in-my-dark-greens kind of person, so I can understand your disappointment. It really is hard to order online with only a guess.
I ordered the trinity in beige with only a tiny icon on the blog about the color but I was not too worried since I am into basically every variation of beige, as long as it’s not TOO light and into ivory/cream territory. I was definitely disappointed with the feel of the leather, too plasticky and not enough of that natural leather feel, for my hands to enjoy petting it, like I do with the verona. BUT my bag is beautiful, it will work beautifully in my wardrobe, and I think the quality and the bag are very much in line with the price I paid, and I am happy to keep it maybe forever.
I wish there was less guesswork with choosing a leather color by keeping leathers in their standard collection longer term and not ‘2-days-only-then-gone’ so you have time to order swatches and look at them in real life.
I ordered the trinity in beige with only a tiny icon on the blog about the color but I was not too worried since I am into basically every variation of beige, as long as it’s not TOO light and into ivory/cream territory. I was definitely disappointed with the feel of the leather, too plasticky and not enough of that natural leather feel, for my hands to enjoy petting it, like I do with the verona. BUT my bag is beautiful, it will work beautifully in my wardrobe, and I think the quality and the bag are very much in line with the price I paid, and I am happy to keep it maybe forever.
I wish there was less guesswork with choosing a leather color by keeping leathers in their standard collection longer term and not ‘2-days-only-then-gone’ so you have time to order swatches and look at them in real life.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you, vink!
It's totally not a bad thing to be into bluish-greens -- I realised in taking out my Poker Fonce and comparing it to the swatches and MZW Mallard that even this HG green of mine has a tad more blue in it than I previously thought! With the new leathers that Marco always sources, even if Dark Green Trinity isn't quite it for you, I'm sure another bluish-green will come along soon... (Might it even be worth checking with MM if they still have any Dark Green Verona left??)Totally agree! When the new Verona colours came out, I was really tempted to try some of the new colours, but hesitant to pull the trigger since no one else had seen them before and there was no way of knowing exactly what tone/shade they would have, or if they had the same characteristics as the original batches of Verona... Hence how I wound up with Chocolate Verona in the end. It really would be great if they offered these leathers for longer, so there's more of a chance to find out more information / get swatch samples etc, before committing to the purchase.
Speaking of, should we also update the description for Trinity in the leather reference thread? Has anyone else ordered and received their Trinity leathers yet?
Based on beige and dark green so far, at least, it certainly seems like the leather generally isn't as soft and natural-feeling as Verona, with a thicker coating that gives it more of a plasticky feel at first... I've been handling my Dark Green Penny Messenger a bit more with the comparison pics I've been taking, and brought it out today for its first use, and either I'm getting used to the feeling or the plasticky feel goes away a bit with use/handling. Would be great to hear more from others on how Trinity has been for them!
I don't think many of us ordered it as it was just a cyber Monday limited offer. :/
Maybe we need to rethink things.
Perhaps we should think of MM making generally amazing quality bags at an insanely good price point SO THAT WE CAN TAKE RISKS and if even if half the bags are not a hit and we aren't in love with the color or leather, remember these bags could easily be twice the retail price that they are, so think of every bag as getting a 50% discount so that you can take chances and be happy (at least!) half the time, and the other half should just be considered collateral damage, to be expected with this sight unseen format! And now with our FB BST we can swap our collateral damage bags amongst ourselves, and better yet, get new leathers and colors secondhand first to see how we like it before ordering a new bag with it.
Maybe we need to rethink things.
Perhaps we should think of MM making generally amazing quality bags at an insanely good price point SO THAT WE CAN TAKE RISKS and if even if half the bags are not a hit and we aren't in love with the color or leather, remember these bags could easily be twice the retail price that they are, so think of every bag as getting a 50% discount so that you can take chances and be happy (at least!) half the time, and the other half should just be considered collateral damage, to be expected with this sight unseen format! And now with our FB BST we can swap our collateral damage bags amongst ourselves, and better yet, get new leathers and colors secondhand first to see how we like it before ordering a new bag with it.