Maintaining an H relationship

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That's good to know. I thought buying from different SAs would make them think I'm not committed.

Reading the forum has definitely influenced how I went in today. I'm not used to shopping with a SA so after reading some relationships others have, I was in the mindset of a friend who I'm shopping with. It's definitely a different experience. Will keep an open mind though.
My SAs are not chatty until I started showing them how I framed my H scarves at home, talk about my travels, showed them items I got in other stores.
, gossip about overseas H SAs I met and yada yada.
 
Nope, you can try out as many SAs as you like. For most, this is the only way you can figure out if you will enjoy shopping

Trust your instincts, but at the same time, I agree with the comments below

agree 100%.

Agree

Agree 100%. Just bc we use the word relationship, it doesn’t have to be warm and fuzzy to get what you want or to understand your aesthetic. I also want to add, at Maison and flagships, H SAs are not always the warmest very early on. They’re tired of the constant clamor for Bags, and they want to see who will stay the course even after a bag is attained. And, if the SA who helps you is in leather, or is relatively senior, they are more likely to have access to the best offers, and they may be even more wary initially.

@st3llb3ll , there is a LONG lead time on homeware. I’ve been waiting 18 plus months for mine
If the manager has contacted you, I advise having a discussion and or placing your order now. It’s your relationship with the SM and store that needs to be exclusive, not to an SA who may leave. (I have friends who have been through multiple SAs (bc the SAs have left). Ultimately, very little impact.
LOL - the word relationship associated with H SA is easily conflated.

NOTE: I no longer have a relationship with any luxury SA, H or otherwise so I may have no idea what I am talking about. Also I am older now and more or less grouchy so maybe have fewer relationships in generally :smile:
 
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New to the brand and went in today to see some things and start a relationship. A SA greeted me when I walked in and said to ask if there was anything I was interested in. I let her know what I wanted in home goods and while she was helping me I tried to chat her up but she wasn’t very chatty. Felt like a no nonsense kind of person. I’m not sure we really connected at all. The store ended up not having what I wanted. The home goods item she said she could put me on a waitlist for and a RTW item she said she needed to order. She created a profile for me and said she would text me if she’s able to get them.
Since I agreed to the profile and the wait list, does this mean that this is my SA and I’m locked in? I was hoping for a SA that would be more chatty that would give me more of their opinions. Is it going to hurt me to check out another local store that’s actually much larger and see if I can find someone else I click with or should I just stick with this one and try and draw her out to give me her opinions more? Should I pivot early or just stay the course and build on this relationship.
Apologies for the rambling.
No! Stop! If you didn’t click- then your are early enough to move on! (IMo). You will NOT enjoy shopping and honestly, if your SA also doesn’t enjoy your (shopping) time together, then you will not get what you want. You have to remember that this is a relationship and you both need to be invested. You both have expectations - Find another SA in that boutique, or another close by. Hermes’ culture is all about long terms relationships, so just play the field a little until you feel like you are getting as much attention as you are giving to the relationship. We all get so caught up in the hype- so if you are just starting, try to not build up the pressure on yourself.
Good luck….
 
@addiCCted @WhiteBus @880 @acrowcounted @Lookelou @doloresmia @smoothsailor Thanks everyone for your input! I really appreciate it. Resetting my expectations and feeling good about it. Overall, the SA was kind and helpful and I didn't feel any pressure from her.
I was also thinking about how when I was dating, I had a rule to give a second date when asked because it's so hard to make a judgment on the first date. I was nervous and who know what the other person is going through. She was probably also cautious and busy, etc. My first date with my now husband was ok but I thought it wasn't going anywhere. So glad I went on that second date. :) Will try and keep the same mindset here.
 
It seems having a relationship with your SA is harder to maintain/build in the US? I’m just a newbie considering the 4 months I’m shopping with Hermes. But from what I’ve read so far I must be very lucky with my SA. And I’m not doing anything special nor a bigspender. Nowhere near the 30k that have been mentioned earlier in this thread.
That's it exactly; you are being normal; don't start thinking about it.
Don't believe all you read!
 

there was an article in FT re Hermes, entitled The Hermes Game, How the luxury house is defying the slowdown
(I included t(e link, but it is behind a paywall! Apologies),

Some takeaways included:

Hermes (and brunello cuchinelli and Loro Piana) are weathering the economic slowdown by focusing on top tier customers ; creating artificial scarcity; and basically ignoring the broader base of occasional, aspirational shoppers. Its focus is on highest tier, high annual spend, local clients. The rationale, as narrated by the article, is that those clients might cut back on spending slightly but don’t tend to compromise on quality. These clients do tend to shop in person, frequently, at the store.

Kering group, like Gucci, Ferragamo, and Burberry are doing less well bc their core customer is the occasional, aspirational shopper, who tend to tighten their belts and cut fashion shopping when economic times are tough.

My takeaway : if you can figure out where you land in that description, you will have a pretty accurate idea of your relationship to the brand and to your SA.

ETA: the article also pointed out that Hermes weathers the economic storm by reliance on local clients. It does not encourage dependence on tourist dollars which are considered to be more fickle. Hermes clientele in Japan is 90% local; in NY, the clientele is 75% local. This would also track with reports from the Paris thread that lottery bags are increasingly more difficult to get. Hermes wants you to stick to your local store. Hermes stock and profits are on the rise with slow and steady growth.

Demand is 4-5 times greater than supply of the bags. Hermes is of course conscious of the fact that if they increased supply, it would not be as good for their value to shareholders
 
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there was an article in FT re Hermes, entitled The Hermes Game, How the luxury house is defying the slowdown
(I included t(e link, but it is behind a paywall! Apologies),

Some takeaways included:

Hermes is weathering the economic slowdown by focusing on top tier customers ; creating artificial scarcity;
and basically ignoring the broader base of occasional, aspirational shoppers. Its focus is on highest tier, high annual spend clients. The rationale, as narrated by the article, is that those clients might cut back on spending slightly but don’t tend to compromise on quality. These clients do tend to shop in person, at the store.

Kering group, like Gucci, Ferragamo, and Burberry are doing less well bc their core customer is the occasional, aspirational shopper, who tend to tighten their belts and cut fashion shopping when economic times are tough.

My takeaway : if you can figure out where you land in that description, you will have a pretty accurate idea of your relationship to the brand and to your SA.

ETA: the article also pointed out that Hermes weathers the economic storm by reliance on local clients. Hermes clientele in Japan is 90% local; in NY, the clientele is 75% local. This would even track with reports from the Paris thread that lottery bags are increasingly more difficult to get. Hermes wants you to stick to your local store. Hermes stock and profits are on the rise with slow and steady growth.
💯 this is in line with what my SA and SM said months ago. Based on their comments, they are focusing maintaining and establishing long term clients (assuming with lots of disposable income) who will buy across various categories. They do not want to invest in instagramers/resellers
 
I find this so interesting. My main store had a lm open preference for new customers for a period of time prioritizing for bags for new clients and having a walk in only policy, including no appointments for existing clients. The walk-in only policy has been on and off for a while now. A bunch of long term clients got fed up and I will be curious to see if and how things change.
 

there was an article in FT re Hermes, entitled The Hermes Game, How the luxury house is defying the slowdown
(I included t(e link, but it is behind a paywall! Apologies),

Some takeaways included:

Hermes (and brunello cuchinelli and Loro Piana) are weathering the economic slowdown by focusing on top tier customers ; creating artificial scarcity; and basically ignoring the broader base of occasional, aspirational shoppers. Its focus is on highest tier, high annual spend, local clients. The rationale, as narrated by the article, is that those clients might cut back on spending slightly but don’t tend to compromise on quality. These clients do tend to shop in person, frequently, at the store.

Kering group, like Gucci, Ferragamo, and Burberry are doing less well bc their core customer is the occasional, aspirational shopper, who tend to tighten their belts and cut fashion shopping when economic times are tough.

My takeaway : if you can figure out where you land in that description, you will have a pretty accurate idea of your relationship to the brand and to your SA.

ETA: the article also pointed out that Hermes weathers the economic storm by reliance on local clients. It does not encourage dependence on tourist dollars which are considered to be more fickle. Hermes clientele in Japan is 90% local; in NY, the clientele is 75% local. This would also track with reports from the Paris thread that lottery bags are increasingly more difficult to get. Hermes wants you to stick to your local store. Hermes stock and profits are on the rise with slow and steady growth.

Demand is 4-5 times greater than supply of the bags. Hermes is of course conscious of the fact that if they increased supply, it would not be as good for their value to shareholders
Great article @880, very insightful! (I’m trying to share with this link https://on.ft.com/473VY04). I still think there’s a place for the committed local enthusiast, even those with less robust financial profiles. Hermes is in it for the long term and expects their clients to be as well.
 
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Nice and timely to come across this thread.. I thought of transferring stores (to Madison) because I felt that DC was too competitive given the proportion of store size to area it’s serving (the entire DMV 👀😮‍💨) but then I really have a good relationship with my SA so was over the fence about moving and was just trying to convince myself that I was just being practical and realistic.

Anyway, reading comments here I realized two things: How really nice my SA is and the importance of maintaining a connection. I say this because (in hindsight) they brought up the subject of getting non-QB’s after my second visit plus I was offered three non-QB’s in a span of 2.5 months 🙈 In colors I like, too (biscuit, etoupe, and gold, in alphabetical order). Believe me I only bought practical things that I like and would use like shoes, bracelet, makeup etc.

While I am yet to get my first QB offer 🤞 I really appreciate the journey and also your insights here!
 
@880


Hermes wants you to stick to your local store.
I was saying this, I think last year. Remember Monsieur Axel Dumas explaining their year results. But it was not a popular opinion when I was telling this :frown:

100% agree. This info was straight from FT quoting a few retail analysts that the lower exposure to tourist spend is a key factor in its growth over rivals who depend on tourist dollars. This doesn’t mean that Hermes discourages tourist dollars (which is an argument some members gave in response to your original post below) ; simply that they are not considered responsible for the growth as measure by stock price relative to say, the kering group. IMO this is an important point to make in this thread bc of the flip side: individual relationships with regular high spenders is of paramount concern to Hermes as a whole. It also explains why most tourists, even at FSH, which welcomes them via lottery, find it difficult to establish a strong relationship for future Expenditure. The article also stated that the kering group is not likely to recover even in 2024 which should confirm to Hermes that it chose the right path.
here is your post: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/whats-your-unpopular-hermes-opinion.1028569/page-305
 
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