Is it maybe to reach better Asia market that has a high demands, I mean, was it the same when they decided to produce in the Usa after France?
LV made in India?
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This was the quote: It is NEVER about the quality. . . . that ISN'T the point . . . based on a combination of a fantasy, image/lifestyle, and snobbery. It sells dreams to people. "
Well, at least for myself and, I think a lot of people here, I don't think this is necessarily true and I don't like being grouped in that subset. I love the history, the luxury, the quality, the fact that it lasts so long.
I'm not trying to fulfill a dream - I do that through my work and my family. If someone is trying to fulfill a dream with a Louis Vuitton bag, I don't think there are enough bags in the world, at any cost, that will be successful in that pursuit.
We will never be the model in the ad; most of us will never attain the kind of financial security or prosperity that entices - but it's like a little treasure - a piece of history, coupled with a luxury for the present - something that will last and bring a smile and a pleasure. To give something luxurious to a loved one - that's so much fun. Not all of us buy Louis Vuitton for snobbish reasons. Hopefully, most of us do not.
Well, at least for myself and, I think a lot of people here, I don't think this is necessarily true and I don't like being grouped in that subset. I love the history, the luxury, the quality, the fact that it lasts so long.
I'm not trying to fulfill a dream - I do that through my work and my family. If someone is trying to fulfill a dream with a Louis Vuitton bag, I don't think there are enough bags in the world, at any cost, that will be successful in that pursuit.
We will never be the model in the ad; most of us will never attain the kind of financial security or prosperity that entices - but it's like a little treasure - a piece of history, coupled with a luxury for the present - something that will last and bring a smile and a pleasure. To give something luxurious to a loved one - that's so much fun. Not all of us buy Louis Vuitton for snobbish reasons. Hopefully, most of us do not.
yes I agree and I'm having a hard time understanding this compulsion. I find it interesting that the same people who find it unappealing will also be the first ones at a charity gala to "support the needy" overseas ala "We are the World..."...its a little hypocritical IMO. We want to improve the lives of others less fortunate but not at the expense of how I'm going to look in public is what this says to me.
again, just my little opinion based on some generalizations made. its not intended at anyone inparticular here.
To me it's more that I actually want french mustard to be made in france, not that I woulden't by anything that is made in a third world country. =P I'd just like for the companies that actually use a certain part of the world in their advertizing to be at least slightly credible. If f.ex the murakami line or at least the canvas would've been made in japan etc.
charleston-mom:
There's a difference between buying into a dream and to fullfill a dream by buying. We express ourselves through what we show to the public and most of the time a big part of us is covered in clothes/handbags/make-up/cars etc etc.
I do not think it's a bad thing that companies start up in third world countries because it makes a good difference for the people living there (at least if it's done right, not in "free zones" and the like, which is mostly like slavery anyways). But putting Louis Vuitton Paris (C) on an india made bag would just seem strange and not credible to me.
Liberté;1622824 said:
yeah I see what your are saying. but isn't say "French Mustard" for example just a method in which the mustard is produced? You can still make french mustard anywhere in the world as long as you adhere to the method/standards/ingredients in which it is produced. KWIM?
FYI - Grey Poupon is not made in France but the label on the back says it adheres to the original French recipe. It is distributed in Illinois. Still tastes great.
Yes. I try to avoid them. =/ But I guess it may be different if you live in Spain and US or and depending on how you feel. =) In the end, like this thread shows, everyone's feelings are different on the matter. In the end it's about what we can justify to ourselves. I really woulden't care if anyone bought a "Made in india" LV it's still good fashion etc, but for myself I woulden't do it.
bagnshoofetish:
The recipe your referring to is "Dijon Mustard" I think. Dijon type mustard can be made anywhere, but Dijon type mustard mustard made in france should be made in france, hopefully from french grown mustard. Or at least it should've been brewed in france. =P
From the Grey Poupon site: Grey Poupon Dijon Mustards sold in the United States are produced by the Nabisco Foods Company in accordance with the unique recipes dating back more than 200 years. Today, Grey Poupon is the nation's largest-selling Dijon mustard and is available in the original Dijon and Country Dijon styles.
From Wikipedia: Mustard
Dijon is famous for its mustard, even though nowadays around 90% of all mustard seeds used are imported, mainly from Canada. The term Dijon mustard (moutarde de Dijon) designates a method for the making of mustard. Traditional Dijon mustard is particularly strong. Most Dijon mustard (brands such as Amora or Maille) is produced industrially, but the town also specializes in exotic or unusually-flavored mustard, often sold in decorative hand-painted faïence (china) pots. In non-European markets such as the United States the name "Dijon mustard" is not trademarked. The only way to be sure you are getting real Dijon mustard is to buy a jar that was imported from France.
From Wikipedia: Mustard
Dijon is famous for its mustard, even though nowadays around 90% of all mustard seeds used are imported, mainly from Canada. The term Dijon mustard (moutarde de Dijon) designates a method for the making of mustard. Traditional Dijon mustard is particularly strong. Most Dijon mustard (brands such as Amora or Maille) is produced industrially, but the town also specializes in exotic or unusually-flavored mustard, often sold in decorative hand-painted faïence (china) pots. In non-European markets such as the United States the name "Dijon mustard" is not trademarked. The only way to be sure you are getting real Dijon mustard is to buy a jar that was imported from France.
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Thanks for posting the sources, facts. ^_^
It's the same with Louis Vuitton. I doubt they make all the canvas themselves. =P I know they've bought leather from norwegian cows, but other than that I do not know where the raw materials come from, which mink farms they use etc etc.
Thanks for posting the sources, facts. ^_^
It's the same with Louis Vuitton. I doubt they make all the canvas themselves. =P I know they've bought leather from norwegian cows, but other than that I do not know where the raw materials come from, which mink farms they use etc etc.
Liberté;1623190they've bought leather from norwegian cows said:NORWEGIAN COWS!?? That does it! I'm taking all my bags back today! My leather must scream "Le Moo" or forget about it!
NORWEGIAN COWS!?? That does it! I'm taking all my bags back today! My leather must scream "Le Moo" or forget about it!
bags - I started laughing so hard I had to shut my office door! STOP IT!
Hmmmm, this just looks like greed on LV's part like they are getting too big and mass produced......AND all we see out of it is and increase in price...There are a few more things I really want, but I think I'm going to slow down my LV purchases in the future, I really don't love ANYTHING that's overly mass produced and that's what they're doing.....and to pay top dollar for it, I hope they realize how many people they may dissapoint but they sure don't care...... I'll get into Goyard or something, they make beautiful pieces that are durable like LV.... Then they wonder how things wind up in Costco, dealing and producing in such large factories all over the world, there's so much production, why do we see so much Prada and Gucci at discount stores???? because they have factories in too many countries, if that's what LV wants to do than they will be in the same boat and we'll probably see more and more things popping up where they don't belong, you can't control it when you get sooooo big and mass produced. Ok, I'm done now....
I am certainly not saying EVERYONE who buys a Louis Vuitton bag buys it for the reasons I listed. But it is what the majority of Vuitton customers are attracted by - whether they want to admit it or not. Their advertising is part of an image of luxury. I should clarify that from a marketing standpoint, the company, in this case Louis Vuitton, is selling an image/dream to you, of the model and the percieved luxurious lifestyle. Keyword here is percieved. The model is a vision (or model) of a supposed ideal self. Also, I don't think anyone thinks their dreams will be instantly fulfilled if they buy a certain product.
As for the quality - I honestly believe there are many low key brands out there that will make bags that will last just as long as any Vuitton bag. The quality and durability of a Vuitton piece should not be your sole reason for buying their products, for you are wasting your money.
Luxury IS a form of snobbery. With people suffering from all over the world, the fact that one indulges in a $1000-$2000 USD bag is horrific to certain people. Whether one realizes it or not, luxury is ultimately a form of excess, in a strictly moral sense. Everyone of us here is very lucky because we can even CHOOSE to buy Louis Vuitton. There aren't that many people in the world in income brackets that will allow them such an indulgence.
In the end, from a business perspective this is bad for Louis Vuitton. Their policies of no discounts and their products manufactured in Westernized countries is how they maintain their brand image. Without this image, Vuitton could not possibly charge you the insane amounts they charge you. For example, many Japanese companies like Sony manufacture their products in China for the US market, but will only sell 'Made in Japan' products in Japan? Why? Because of the percieved quality. And guess what, the Japanese (in general, of course, sort of like how Americans LOVE baseball, I am sure not all of us LOVE baseball) adore the French. The majority of Louis Vuitton products (along with Hermes) are sold in Japan. This is also a reason why Coach cannot crack the Japanese market. Watch Louis Vuitton sales go down in those regions the minute they realize their bags are made in India.
Just my two cents.
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