LV made in India?

[charleston-mom]

That is the same reason I don't buy made in USA if at all possible. I don't mind items manufactured in Spain or Italy.

This made me laugh.

Do you honestly feel that your product made in Spain or Italy is that much better quality than one made in the U.S.? I bet if we took the tags off, for any of them, you would not be able to tell any difference whatsoever.

Louis Vuitton is no longer just a "European company." It is a global enterprise. While you may decide not to purchase from Louis Vuitton any longer, it really will be your loss more than theirs.

I honestly don't think that their sales will fall off to the point that it will have any appreciable effect on the company's stock or net profit. Indeed, the cost savings from lower costs, coupled with the increased sales in that portion of the world will likely well offset any decrease in income from people who pull their support due to prejudice towards any given countries.

Whether fortunate (for the companies) or unfortunate (for people who people who it bothers), this is the wave of the future and we can either wait and see what the quality is like, or decide to purchase bags from a differing designer. I for one will wait and see on quality before prejudging an entire country based on stereotypes.

While we may have some concerns about quality, most of us love LV for the quality, timelessness and beauty of the bags, and I think most of us will wait to see what happens before making blanket statements that something is going to destroy the brand in some way. The sheer number of people who love bags made in the US, rather than France, (and there are some threads on this as well), are a testament to that. There are some on the forum that aren't too happy with France, and prefer US bags for that reason. It's all a matter of personal preference. For some in the US, they would much rather have a US made bag.

I don't think that there are that many people that would judge a lovely bag totally based on where it was made. If the quality and standards are held to the same impeccable standards they have always been held to, I don't foresee a problem. Louis Vuitton has always had wonderful standards for their bags - I don't envision that changing.

 

[TFFC]

Charleston-mom:

Most of your reply has revolved around the word quality. Whereas the people that have agreed with my post are not concerned about quality. Pinkiwhatever isn't saying that a LV bag made in US is of inferior quality to those made in France. She is talking about consistency of image. 'Made in France' and 'Made in Spain' is consistent with European grandeur; 'Made in US' is not. So I'm not sure why you were laughing at her.

Louis Vuitton may be a global enterprise, but my perception is that it doesn't market itself this way. Time after time, I feel their advertising reflects the European grandeur.

I'd like to know if those who prefer or don't mind Made in US are actually in the US. Considering that most of LV's clientele - and by far their biggest spending cohort - are Asian (and my belief is that Indians don't form a big part of this cohort - please correct me if I'm wrong), I'd be interested in what someone from HK or Japan think of the 'Made in India' label. If they are anything like the Asian people around me, they much prefer manufacturing in European countries.

You're right - the amount of customers lost will be counteracted by the decrease in LV's costs. But I doubt LV's aim is to 'offset' anything. They want to increase profits by decreasing costs - and this will only work if their current customers stay loyal; or if they decrease the prices to make their goods available to more people (perhaps tapping into the markets that don't care about the bag's origin but just as long as it's LV). I truly doubt the latter will happen; and I can't see the current database staying put either.

 

[missD]

i highly highly doubt that the bags will say made in india. I bet its sewn and constructed there and then shipped off to France or whereever and put in the finishing touches where its stamped "made in France"....

 

[nyaao]

I will continue to buy bags from LV if I continue to like their styles, as long as I know they are not exploiting workers. I believe that they will not be exploiting workers when opening a plant in India and that they thought over this decision carefully. LV would be paying workers proportionally equal to European/US counterparts compared to each country's standard of living. Lower wage to you does not necessarily mean a low wage to them.

But LV would be profiting more and still increasing prices for the consumers, so that would be the only problem I see with this move. If we find out they're out to exploit, then that is when I would stop paying their prices for the bags.

The only other issue I agree with is the "French dream" a lot of the members here have. I personally do not have this mentally and I buy bags because I like them, but it's fine for the others to want to buy a French house's bag made in France--that's just their preference. However, it is not fine when those others start making biased, stereotypical, and borderline-racist comments about countries and ideas they know nothing about.

 

[CEC.LV4eva]

Charleston-mom:

Most of your reply has revolved around the word quality. Whereas the people that have agreed with my post are not concerned about quality. Pinkiwhatever isn't saying that a LV bag made in US is of inferior quality to those made in France. She is talking about consistency of image. 'Made in France' and 'Made in Spain' is consistent with European grandeur; 'Made in US' is not. So I'm not sure why you were laughing at her.

Louis Vuitton may be a global enterprise, but my perception is that it doesn't market itself this way. Time after time, I feel their advertising reflects the European grandeur.

I'd like to know if those who prefer or don't mind Made in US are actually in the US. Considering that most of LV's clientele - and by far their biggest spending cohort - are Asian (and my belief is that Indians don't form a big part of this cohort - please correct me if I'm wrong), I'd be interested in what someone from HK or Japan think of the 'Made in India' label. If they are anything like the Asian people around me, they much prefer manufacturing in European countries.

You're right - the amount of customers lost will be counteracted by the decrease in LV's costs. But I doubt LV's aim is to 'offset' anything. They want to increase profits by decreasing costs - and this will only work if their current customers stay loyal; or if they decrease the prices to make their goods available to more people (perhaps tapping into the markets that don't care about the bag's origin but just as long as it's LV). I truly doubt the latter will happen; and I can't see the current database staying put either.

Actually, Japan ALONE makes up roughly 60% of LV's global sales (reference-->Glamour), and I know that China (not just HK) is becoming a big player too. Thus for a FACT, most of LV's clientele is in the oriental countries. I am quite familiar with mainland China and speaking from my perspective, the nouveau riche are more interested in the "image" rather than the products. My cousin and some of her millionaire boyfriends have NOOOOOO CLUEEE what they're buying. The guys know car names like BMW, Porsche, Audi, Jaguar.....yet.....they're so.......'unrefined' and can't even pronounce the names right. I'm not trying to look down at them since I was educated in the west, but all I see is the "image" they pursue. As long as a product is marked XXXXXX.00$ they like it and will buy it without hesitation and without any research/knowledge of the product. My cousin and her girlfriends......okie I don't even know where to start on them lol....they're just real gold diggers....and lemme say that they DIG WELL! lol I'm going off topic, back to LV: in big cities, the girls are very chic and dress very well, all designers clothes (and I am told that the same applies in Mumbai/bombay). I doubt LVs sales will go down in China since the country is economically booming and youngsters are becoming more and more casual with money in order to portray a certain image/status

I know this doesn't apply to all, but it's just what I see near my hometown in China

 

[pinki682]

I thought you were one individual on this board that was more open minded about this subject. I may have misinterpret "European". I thought this was an open forum to post your point of view? I didn't say anything derogatory about anything manufactured in other countries. This is just my statement that I prefer my LV from France. Nothing personal just my preference. What a shame.

This made me laugh.

Do you honestly feel that your product made in Spain or Italy is that much better quality than one made in the U.S.? I bet if we took the tags off, for any of them, you would not be able to tell any difference whatsoever.

Louis Vuitton is no longer just a "European company." It is a global enterprise. While you may decide not to purchase from Louis Vuitton any longer, it really will be your loss more than theirs.

I honestly don't think that their sales will fall off to the point that it will have any appreciable effect on the company's stock or net profit. Indeed, the cost savings from lower costs, coupled with the increased sales in that portion of the world will likely well offset any decrease in income from people who pull their support due to prejudice towards any given countries.

Whether fortunate (for the companies) or unfortunate (for people who people who it bothers), this is the wave of the future and we can either wait and see what the quality is like, or decide to purchase bags from a differing designer. I for one will wait and see on quality before prejudging an entire country based on stereotypes.

While we may have some concerns about quality, most of us love LV for the quality, timelessness and beauty of the bags, and I think most of us will wait to see what happens before making blanket statements that something is going to destroy the brand in some way. The sheer number of people who love bags made in the US, rather than France, (and there are some threads on this as well), are a testament to that. There are some on the forum that aren't too happy with France, and prefer US bags for that reason. It's all a matter of personal preference. For some in the US, they would much rather have a US made bag.

I don't think that there are that many people that would judge a lovely bag totally based on where it was made. If the quality and standards are held to the same impeccable standards they have always been held to, I don't foresee a problem. Louis Vuitton has always had wonderful standards for their bags - I don't envision that changing.

 

[GayleLV]

Man, 13 pages of this and I'm finally done reading. I'm on the fence I think? I mean ppl make good points, bad points, pro's & con's w/ all this.

LV regardless of where it's made, gonna be made, what it eats, if it likes long walks on the beach, coke or pepsi.....the annoyingly common price hikes blow. That's my main hate. Race issues also blow, that's why I always cringe when a topic like this is brought up and discussed, cause ya know it's always gonna come up sooner or later. so retarded. blah. eh, whatever - just buy the bags if ya like the bags.

im hungry.

 

[wearsdasamethin]

only a TINY TINY TINY majority of lvs profits are accumulated from the people on this forum, so I really doubt they care if a few people think that by assembling bags in India, its going to cause some sort of decrease in profits. Afterall, I thought that clients of LV mostly cared about the craftmenship that was put into the bag and not where it was made, or what person from what country assemebeld it? Im sure there standards will remain the same. India is an amazing country with alot to offer, people over there are actually very educated (id probably venture far enough to say probably more so then the average american). This will help the economy there and im glad a company as prestigious as LV will have some sort of business presence there.

 

[charleston-mom]

I thought you were one individual on this board that was more open minded about this subject. I may have misinterpret "European". I thought this was an open forum to post your point of view? I didn't say anything derogatory about anything manufactured in other countries. This is just my statement that I prefer my LV from France. Nothing personal just my preference. What a shame.

I am extremely open-minded. I also don't like prejudice and sterotypical comments.

What you said was that you would take an LV from any other country except India. Not just that you preferred one from France. I prefer my LV's to be French. What I am reacting to is the ignorance (not necessarily from you) but from a lot of people in prejudging an entire country based on sterotypes.

That actually makes me more open minded, rather than less. The lack of being open minded are all the posts attacking India and saying, "I'll take a bag from France, Italy, Spain, the US, but not India - oh no I won't take one from India.

I have had more than four private messages from people on our forum who are from India. Some are afraid to speak out now and even say where they are from. This is very sad. I am actually kind of appalled. I don't think there is anyone on here, being politically correct, that would come out and say something like "I'll never buy an LV if it was manufactured by an African American" or something like that. And of course they shouldn't say something like that. What is shocking to me is that they have no compunction about saying something similar about India and Indians.

If people are talking about wanting the "dream," or something - okay. But this has gone way beyond this and when purse forum members are afraid to speak up or even be proud of where they are from because of racist and derrogatory comments, that upsets me.

It is precisely because I am open-minded that it does. Not just that I was born in India and lived there when I was young, and know how wonderful this might be for some Indian families, but because we, on a whole, are supposed to be educated, cultured people. If we are well-enough off to be buying Louis Vuitton products, perhaps we could be introspective enough to be cognizant of the various nationalities on our forum and be careful how our words may be construed and felt by Indian members of our forum.

I see nothing wrong with saying you prefer a bag made in France (from a French company), but there is no need to list every other country and then say you will not buy one from India. I'm not singling anyone out - there have been numerous posts exactly like this and it makes me very sad. We have Indian people here on the forum who are proud of their heritage, just as all of you are of your own. If we can restrict our tone a little bit, it would be much less hurtful.

 

[charleston-mom]

I just want to throw one last thing out there as food for thought to our wonderful purse forum.

If you were from India, and you wanted to put your country of origin on your avatar (like lots of us do), given the tone of some of these posts - would you?

One of the people who sent me a private message has taken India off her Avatar. This is what saddens me the most. We are supposed to be here because we love our Louis Vuitton bags, to make friends, talk about bags, and enjoy this cyberspace community. Part of the niceness about this forum is that it is an open community. I wonder how welcome some of our Indian members feel.

All I'm asking is that we be conscious of others and their feelings and think how our posts may come across. I've literally been open-mouthed reading some of them, and sad.

 

[bagkris]

yikes!!

 

[TFFC]

I think the only reason India is being specifically referred to here, is because that's where LV may have chosen to build their plant. I think the reaction would be the same if it had been China, or Vietnam, or the Phillipines, etc. Therefore, this isn't a personal attack on INDIA itself. Some people (myself included) have mentioned that it's not the downfall in quality that's the concern (because like I said, I don't think being Made in India would compromise the quality). The only thing about India in this thread, is that it's not a European country. And that criteria disregards the majority of the world - not just India alone.

PS. If I had India in my avatar, I would still have it there for this reason. If you're from India, be proud of it. Just because people don't want a French fashion house to produce their bags there doesn't mean we all think India is awful. It's discriminated against in this case because of its geographical location. Also - I am Vietnamese and had LV chose Vietnam to produce their bags, my reaction would be the same.

CEV.LV4eva - Thanks for that insight you provided in your post. I have to wonder though, if word got around that LV is made in India, would the mainland Chinese people like those you referred to be as quick to shun the brand as quickly as they embraced it?

 

[merika]

I assume people like to think they are getting the 'best of the best' and they want all their cars to come from Germany, their designer clothes and bags from France or Italy, their state-of-the-art electronics from Japan, their silks from China etc,etc.

More availability and more credit cards mean that people are freer to buy what they want. I predict that this may lead to more LV stores opening up all over the country, and Mono becoming the next Coach in rural colleges...

 

[pinki682]

These are all my responses to this thread. I have not mention anything derogoratory nor prejudice against any one nationality.

Do you see me saying anything against Asians of any origin here? Be they made from the mother country or born in America of many generations?

Why would I want to pay these exorbitant prices for a purse? Because Louis Vuitton french company; made in France.

Yes, many have said the quality is no different whether produce in France, Spain, Italy, or the USA.

Do you know why I grudging accept products from other EU countries? I had no choice!

I don't buy Louis Vuitton made in USA for the same principal. Why as an educated person would you paid thousands of dollars for a bag which was produce in America from a french company? I wouldn't. LV made have a factory here in the USA, but I don't condone the trans global capitalism. Fact. We are still paying triple the amount for a knock off of the product here in this country. Yes, I just called it a knock off. LV producing their wares in this country I consider a knock off. I mean it. It's really not LV anymore. Even you mention it, If products were just made in any country just remove the labels from the country of origin assembly!

Our economy is non-existent today. Our people are loosing their jobs because of capitalism on the premise that goods with their brand names are produced for their cost effective needs outside of every country across the board. It's a sad day for America. Also a great day for countries who need to be western in order to better their lives. Is it? Not! All we did was ship all the pollutants to other countries in order to maintain the businesses for the wealthy in order to conform with political environmental policies. We are not only destroying this country. Our tenacles are stretching to the far reaches of the globe where even though small countries are improverish or not. We are destroying their future lives and the health of their children in the name of Capitalism!

Brands that were once produced here use to much much coveted by people of all walks of life. When tourist come to America they buy American to brag that they have travelled to this country on vacation. And it's the same shoe on the other foot when we visit India, China, Sri lanka, Greece, Romania, Myanmar, Pakistan, Nepal, Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Bulgaria, Istanbul, and so forth. You spend money not just to see the sites. You bring back culture from other countries and their beautiful wares.

I don't want to buy anything that a company is producing outside of their country. I do not believe they are helping people from foreign countries to succeed in bettering their lives. In fact they are ruining lives more.

Good question....

^IA... OP's new's article did specially say building a plant in an area of high-end leather goods manufacturing and LV bags not LVMH as a whole company.

Does this mean after hours factories producing fakes only exist in Asia and doesn't come from France or Italy? Hard to believe that the European world is without blame. Synopsis is the same. Huge conglomerates outsourcing there businesses to other parts of the world to manufacture their products. Looks more like global servitude. JMO

That is the same reason I don't buy made in USA if at all possible. I don't mind items manufactured in Spain or Italy.

I am extremely open-minded. I also don't like prejudice and sterotypical comments.

What you said was that you would take an LV from any other country except India. Not just that you preferred one from France. I prefer my LV's to be French. What I am reacting to is the ignorance (not necessarily from you) but from a lot of people in prejudging an entire country based on sterotypes.

That actually makes me more open minded, rather than less. The lack of being open minded are all the posts attacking India and saying, "I'll take a bag from France, Italy, Spain, the US, but not India - oh no I won't take one from India.

I have had more than four private messages from people on our forum who are from India. Some are afraid to speak out now and even say where they are from. This is very sad. I am actually kind of appalled. I don't think there is anyone on here, being politically correct, that would come out and say something like "I'll never buy an LV if it was manufactured by an African American" or something like that. And of course they shouldn't say something like that. What is shocking to me is that they have no compunction about saying something similar about India and Indians.

If people are talking about wanting the "dream," or something - okay. But this has gone way beyond this and when purse forum members are afraid to speak up or even be proud of where they are from because of racist and derrogatory comments, that upsets me.

It is precisely because I am open-minded that it does. Not just that I was born in India and lived there when I was young, and know how wonderful this might be for some Indian families, but because we, on a whole, are supposed to be educated, cultured people. If we are well-enough off to be buying Louis Vuitton products, perhaps we could be introspective enough to be cognizant of the various nationalities on our forum and be careful how our words may be construed and felt by Indian members of our forum.

I see nothing wrong with saying you prefer a bag made in France (from a French company), but there is no need to list every other country and then say you will not buy one from India. I'm not singling anyone out - there have been numerous posts exactly like this and it makes me very sad. We have Indian people here on the forum who are proud of their heritage, just as all of you are of your own. If we can restrict our tone a little bit, it would be much less hurtful.

I am sadden that many people have taken to changing their locations on this forum. This is something I didn't know. But, it had nothing to do with me.

They should not be intimidated by this thread. If they had the courage to dispell all these preferences of why people of all walks prefer their LV made in France. Speak up. They can make a difference.

I just want to throw one last thing out there as food for thought to our wonderful purse forum.

If you were from India, and you wanted to put your country of origin on your avatar (like lots of us do), given the tone of some of these posts - would you?

One of the people who sent me a private message has taken India off her Avatar. This is what saddens me the most. We are supposed to be here because we love our Louis Vuitton bags, to make friends, talk about bags, and enjoy this cyberspace community. Part of the niceness about this forum is that it is an open community. I wonder how welcome some of our Indian members feel.

All I'm asking is that we be conscious of others and their feelings and think how our posts may come across. I've literally been open-mouthed reading some of them, and sad.

For your information.

You don't even know who I am. You're assuming that I am some asinine Anglo-Saxon American.

You are actually too self-righteous and a closed-minded individual.

 

[charleston-mom]

We are still paying triple the amount for a knock off of the product here in this country. Yes, I just called it a knock off. LV producing their wares in this country I consider a knock off. I mean it. It's really not LV anymore. Even you mention it, If products were just made in any country just remove the labels from the country of origin assembly!

I don't want to buy anything that a company is producing outside of their country. I do not believe they are helping people from foreign countries to succeed in bettering their lives. In fact they are ruining lives more.

For your information.

You don't even know who I am. You're assuming that I am some asinine Anglo-Saxon American. You are actually too self-righteous and a closed-minded individual.

WOW!

Anyone can read my posts, and then read yours, and see exactly what type of people each of us are. I'll leave it to the people reading them to decide who is close-minded and who is not.

I doubt if there are many on the forum who hold the opinion that LVs made in the US are "knock-offs" when they are made by LV.

By the way, I don't think Americans are "asinine anglo-saxons," but if that is your opinion, I guess it speaks to your open mind. I imagine any "American" on the board probably feels a tad insulted by that, so it might be best to keep the insults out of the posts, if you can. That is exactly what I was talking about. Racial slurs, derrogatory comments about specific countries and peoples.

Let's get back to Louis Vuitton bags, and try to keep the prejudicial insults out of the threads, please. It is not appropriate to be throwing racial or other slurs at countries around on the boards.