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Melli12 said:
I saw that bag in store and could touch the leather. It’s very smooth and feels very delicate. And almost a bit artificial if that makes sense. I really like the bag but I would be worried about scratches.
There is one thing I don understand: there is a video where a luggage tag is attached at the front but I can’t see the hole or ring to attach on the front of the bag when I look at the picture. Is there a luggage tag? I can’t remember from the store visit :doh:

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Your input is certainly helpful. I also noticed the luggage tag from the official website’s video. I am guessing it should be taken much early and they changed the design last minute during production. The two ig videos I saw also did not show any loop for the luggage to be attached to. Their description on the website included it though. Can’t believe LV marketing is so lazy - cut and paste everything from other city keepall..
 
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BULL said:
Thank you. I am not a high priest of this, I just really love it and learnt a lot about it. I hope I can inspire people to do their own research too and learn more about this beautiful topic. I agree with @TomMi39, we should start a new thread about the leathers, it is is much fun :smile:

The ornaments leather looks like a thin leather, my guess is that they are using vacuum to mold it, and also would guess that the ornaments are padded from the inside (these kinda motifs usually are), so they shouldn't get dented like that.
The finish looks like the rubbery one that they introduced with the Damier Cobalt pieces back in 2014. But I haven't touched them yet.
I loved those wrinkles in the video. Those are just like the pores. That leather behaves like leather. And a thin molded leather will get wrinkly somewhere eventually, it's perfectly OK. Even on their official close up shots, they get quite wrinkly around the motifs.
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I’m thinking with these info about that range, it still might be a bit too delicate for my clumsy use. I’m fine with general leather wrinkling because that’s how it is suppose to behave. But the additional wrinkling making it look like distress leather when it’s finishing was actually smooth. It makes me panic a bit on the inside.
 
#1,386
Emphosix said:
I have most of kusama wave 2 stuff and pictures. If anyone is interested, message me.

There are 3 pumpkin bag charms coming. Blue, purple and yellow. Seem to be limited to 1375 pieces. Good luck :smile:
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Hello!
I am new here and don’t know how to send you a private message.. so sorry! I would love to see the pictures of the pumpkin charms and the rest of the collection. Can anyone give me a guidance on how to send a private message? Thanks for your time!
 
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Rikumonster said:
Hello!
I am new here and don’t know how to send you a private message.. so sorry! I would love to see the pictures of the pumpkin charms and the rest of the collection. Can anyone give me a guidance on how to send a private message? Thanks for your time!
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So I struggled with this too! It seems like you need a minimum amount of posting to "unlock" the private messaging feature ..
 
#1,391
BULL said:
I did comment under one of his cr*p videos, but I believe I can reach all the right people here. So please let me debunk this nonsense.

So... here is an Alma made from VVN leather and a Pochette Voyage from black Épi. Both photos are official press photos from the website with 0 Photoshop. I just zoomed in.
So the VVN of the Alma is a pure, absolutely natural, vegetable tanned full grain cowhide, it is the topmost layer of the skin, and after the tanning it is totally untreated. This is why it is so delicate and porosus. It gets dark with time from light and hand oils, you all know the drill. The key aspect that I highlighted are the pores that you can clearly see from up close. THAT is a very high quality leather my friends. But people can ask, where are the "grains" if it is full grain? The grain of the Taurillon or Togo comes from an extra step in the tanning process, the leather by default is just like ours.

Let's get to the Épi. It is a HEAVILY treated leather: deep dyed, pressed with the wavy pattern (I call them dunes) and then they apply a thin paint layer onto the top of the dunes to create a duo-tone effect. Sometimes the colour of these are quite contrasting and make the depth effect extra pronounced (like on the Honey Gold colour) or they almost blend perfectly (like on Coquelicot). They usually skip this last step on the Men's line items, so they are more matte looking, but most Women's stuff get this extra finishing touch. So all in all, this is a heavily treated leather, but that is the point of this line. To be extremely durable and weather resistant.
And the key question is: what kinda leather they are treating this heavily? Yes, the exact same leather that the Alma has. Spoiler: see the pores.

Leather is not rare at all, and Vuitton can easily source only the highest quality cowhides for themselves. They don't need to use tricks to hide imperfections and use lower quality leather. You can ask: why is not everything made of Nomade and Taurillon then? Durability. People need tough work horse bags, weather resistant bags, bags that will looks just as nice after 10-15 years. Épi bags, Taïga bags are doing just that. And since they are super durable, they are easier to work with. They won't get scratched up in the factory while they are being sewn together. Less likely to get damaged during transport or in the store while people are checking them out on the shelves. That's it. It is just safer and easier in every sense. That is why Épi costs less than Taurillon or Millesime. Not because it is a cr*p leather pressed with a plastic coating (which never was the case).
And also they needed to build a hierarchy of good-better-best for the leathers, and they chose that the more natural finish it has, the more expensive it will be. But it could have gone the other way around too.

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Disclaimer: he is a nice guy, he just wants to build his channels as quickly as possible, and he chose to bash luxury brands without any proper research or knowledge about high leathercraft. Probably very entertaining to people who never touched a Vuitton and love the simple "expensive bags = all cheap, rich people = idiots" message. He is an amateur and his bags are lightyears behind what Peter Nitz or any of the high-end indie craftsmen make. If Peter talks sh*t about even Hermès messing up their bags, he is legit, but this guy has 0 credibility when it comes to haute maroquinerie.
But to be honest, I enjoy seeing these bags getting disassembled nonetheless, so exciting to see the anatomy of them. It would be just way better to watch them without all the misinformation that gets told during the videos.
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I agree 100% with you ;) He didn't even know that monogram canvas is not leather... at least he could do some research on bag history before making a video in which he dismisses a material he doesn't understand
 
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athousandmhiles24 said:
Does anyone know when the Ivy bag will release? I already saw pictures of it on IG with people wearing them. I think the poster is based in Singapore.
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I ordered when it randomly appeared early on the website and it’s order in preparation (has been for over a week) foolishly hoping it ships tonight if it arrives I’ll post some pics
 
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