Kendall & Kylie Jenner
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I'm not sure if you are referring to my comments specifically but I'm actually a fan of the Kardashian Klan - I watch their show all the time and I think Kim is beautiful. No hatred or disdain for anyone whatsoever.
Let's use some common sense with respect to saying to someone's face that they are not pretty, etc. No one would do that unless they are fighting or something...even then, I think it would happen in only extreme cases. Having said that, isn't this forum/thread a place to express opinions and engage each other in some catty criticisms, speculation and gossip? Why else post these pictures and have a thread? Aren't we just all armchair critics having some fun? If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen as they say.
Wow. So you're saying it's the fault of the girl if a boy doesn't respect her?
Are you seriously promoting rape culture?
I kinda agree with the Luvmybags. I absolutely don't promote rape culture and I don't think she was either. I think with males and their raging hormones are not able to handle a girl walking around with their A$$ and chest hanging out. Unfortunately, when boys see a girl who is dresses like this, they are not thinking about how smart she is and how she can contribute to his life. Many times he is thinking about sex and giving her respect isn't the first thing on their list of priorities. I have younger brothers and when they see a female walking with everything advertised they turn into salivating dogs. They don't act on their thoughts but their tounges are wagging. If I had a daughter I wouldn't want anyone salivating over my child.
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I agree. I have brothers and I've been around them and their friends when an attractive girl walks by. And she can be modestly dressed and they will still make inappropriate comments. So being 15 and wearing shorts with your cheeks hanging out ...
But it is "normal" I suppose. I mean I'm in my mid twenties and I don't agree with how teens dress these days. We went to an amusement park a couple of weeks ago and I saw a lot of how they were dressing. Booty shorts and crop tops. Either the super short cut off denim ones or the tiny yoga shorties from VS that in my opinion were not made to be worn in public!
I remember at 15 I felt like I was pushing it wearing a tank with spaghetti straps!! I couldn't imagine walking around like that then or now.
But yes, boys & their hormones are hard to control so I do see where she was coming from. It's hard to instill morals into kids these days when everything in pop culture goes against everything you're trying to teach. Respect women who walk around with cleavage and butt cheeks hanging out? I'm not saying they're "asking for it" or anything along those lines. But thankfully she was saying she was keeping tabs on her teenage son.
I've seen so many kids with absent parents left to their own devices that they are the ones who dont learn from good examples and find that what they see on TV is ok. Kids who don't always learn what's right & wrong from a good source.
It is a scary society out there especially for young girls. You see pretty young things go missing all the time. But some parents let them run around dressed inappropriately and unsupervised at crowded places like the amusement park I was at. That may not be "asking for it" but its definitely putting yourself at risk.
Now of course the K Klan are exaggerated vs. the rest of society .. But Kylie is in the same stage as the rest if those girls.
I absolutely promote rape culture
You meant you don't promote it.
Anyway, that still doesn't make it the fault of the girl. It's the BOY who is looking at the girl and thinking inappropriate things. Why should the girl be blamed if a horny teenage boy can't control himself?
Boys always get a free pass from crap like this. It's the same "boys will boys" speech we having been hearing for years. People need to teach their boys to respect women regardless of what their wearing. It's ridiculous that someone would think otherwise. It's definitely tied in with rape culture. The attitude that a woman doesn't respect herself so why should he.
Wearing shorts in summer is not disrespectful. WTF? When a shirtless guy walks around shirtless and in shorts in summer no one says anything but as soon as girl puts on shorts it's okay to call her names? What about the hormones of the GIRLS when they see a hot shirtless guy? Shouldn't the poor, poor men think about that?
New Flash: Everyone is at risk of rape. Even men.
Wearing shorts or "inappropriate" clothes has nothing to do with increasing the risk of rape.
You're completely missing the point. You are also blaming the victim.
Thanks I fixed it!
I agree with a lot of what you said. There are guys like my brothers who will break their neck to look at a female who is scantily dressed yet I view them as respectful because they don't say or do anything. Then there are other guys who can't control themselves that well or at all and they are ones to make disrespectful comments or reach out and start touching. Even if a guy was respectful, I wouldn't walk around with everything exposed because I don't want the attention that it may bring. I don't want to be starred or gawked at. I hate to say it, but if you are dressed in a provactive way, like it or not it will bring attention.
I'm not sure where in my statements I said that I promote or encourage rape culture... As an abuse survivor I find it outrageous that you would draw that conclusion.
However, as a parent of a 13 yr old boy I have read some texts that would crush me if I was those girls' mothers. They text sexually explicit things and my son will say "whoa you're too young to talk like that" "or you're too pretty to make yourself look like that" or the good ol' "you're being in appropriate". He will tell them to stop and they come back and taunt him, beg and if he blocks them they'll start saying he's gay bc he wouldn't engage...
Now what would you tell your son? I a girl approaches a boy repeatedly in this manner, do you think he would continue to respect her? He is only 13 now, and he is a sweet kid and a gentleman, but I know there will come a time in which he will not continue to respond like he has been.
In the last hour I've seen on his FB:
1. Girl with bra takin cleavage selfie
2. Girl on all fours in booty shorts and a bra
3. Another girl with a bra on with boobs everywhere laying down in bed
4. And another girl in short shorts a tube top bending over
My mom would've killed me if I ever did that, I never disrespected myself like that and never allowed a boy to because I believed I deserved that respect....
I have 2 daughters, so you're conclusion is way off.
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These Jenner girls are role models to todays young girls. I have a 17 year old daughter that followed Rhianna on IG and the Jenner girls. As a parent , I would go through her account and view what she was looking at. I saw the pics Rhianna would pose so I had her go through her IG and unfollow all these celebs and classmates that would post these scanky pics.
Again, I cant control what these celebs and other kids expose and post, but as a parent that is paying the bill for the wifi that gives them access to social media in this house, I sure as heck can control who my kids follow on their accounts. It is up to the foundation of the home and structure of how our children will portray themselves. By the look of these young girls, it seems Kris is never around. This over exposure seems like a cry out for attention from their mom. What makes me sad is that they are not enjoying their youth and they are quickly growing into adults when they have the rest of their lives to worry about that. I just hope they slow it down and not do anything that will come back to haunt them later.
Again, I cant control what these celebs and other kids expose and post, but as a parent that is paying the bill for the wifi that gives them access to social media in this house, I sure as heck can control who my kids follow on their accounts. It is up to the foundation of the home and structure of how our children will portray themselves. By the look of these young girls, it seems Kris is never around. This over exposure seems like a cry out for attention from their mom. What makes me sad is that they are not enjoying their youth and they are quickly growing into adults when they have the rest of their lives to worry about that. I just hope they slow it down and not do anything that will come back to haunt them later.
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Thank you ladies for your responses. I have been tempted to contact parents in the past, but frankly at some point it's just tooth to deal with.
I'm brutally honest with him and he with me. We talk about what love is and how he will be feeling for the next 4 yrs in high school... I can only do so much though.
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