Joseph Duclos Thread

[FatFIRE]

Yes. I’ve noticed several EU brands are more popular outside of the EU. Moynat found popularity in Asia a few years ago and now their happy place is the Middle East.
The French aren’t into H either. They like their no name, mom and pop brands. I don’t blame them. When in the EU and UK, I take public transportation like many of the locals. Lux bags and subways tend not to mix well.
Most people who buy lux brands in the EU are not EU citizens.

I think most of the lux brands in Europe are definitely bought by EU citizens. Even in the extreme case of Paris visited by 44M tourists per year, 25M are JUST French from other regions, Europeans combined are almost 90%. In other cities even more so. Probably Americans and Asians do spend more on average, but not to such extremes.

It´s just the intentional strategy of the brand, quite obvious they never even bothered to attract French. JD ads are in English. 60% of customers being American and all that without any physical presence in US, it just shows how effective those paid promotions are (this thread being one them, once again).

Another interesting point, JD is not calling themselves a heritage brand, so people who compare JD to Moynat and other revival brands should note how the owner puts it: "our very young — or very old — start-up".
Also this sentence is amusing, since so many were duped by 1754 ads (including me at first ): "Named after an 18th-century merchant who obtained royal warrants under French King Louis XV for his exceptional leathers, Joseph Duclos launched in 2021."

 

[Mousy]

Yes. I’ve noticed several EU brands are more popular outside of the EU. Moynat found popularity in Asia a few years ago and now their happy place is the Middle East.
The French aren’t into H either. They like their no name, mom and pop brands. I don’t blame them. When in the EU and UK, I take public transportation like many of the locals. Lux bags and subways tend not to mix well.
Most people who buy lux brands in the EU are not EU citizens.

I find sales numbers interesting. I’d love to know how many French visitors buy H bags when visiting the stores. I’d like to know the ratio of multiple H bag owners to single H bag owners. I think the Kardashians make up 1/3 of the H bags sold in the US.

I spent a half hour with a Hermès director several years ago. We were at a grand opening of a local store and got to talking. It was fascinating.

He mentioned what bags were popular in various world regions and how the French loved the Bolide. He told me wealthy Europeans buy several bags, but the general public buy one to none. In Asia, H’s status over other brands (like LV) drives a huge chunk of the luxury bag loving population to purchase an H bag. In the US, many clients have $$$$$ to buy several H bags or use credit cards to buy now and pay later.

As for JD — I’m assuming you’re saying JD pays for the advertising they get on TPF; you didn’t mean they pay for the positive comments on this thread. This thread was started by thoughtful people who were excited about the new company and where Ramesh would take JD’s designs.

I’d like to know what you mean by ‘paid advertisement.’ I don’t think any of us who comment about liking the brand have been paid. I don’t want to jump to any conclusions about your statement, so I’d like for you to clarify.

 

[bagnut1]

This thread was started by thoughtful people who were excited about the new company and where Ramesh would take JD’s designs.

I would add "educated" to that, as in people who actually understand the design, craftsmanship, and supplier aspects of the JD business model. (My schooling was via previously being an informed longtime client of Moynat.)

 

[Mousy]

I would add "educated" to that, as in people who actually understand the design, craftsmanship, and supplier aspects of the JD business model. (My schooling was via previously being an informed longtime client of Moynat.)

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Yes, indeed!

 

[FatFIRE]

As for JD — I’m assuming you’re saying JD pays for the advertising they get on TPF; you didn’t mean they pay for the positive comments on this thread. This thread was started by thoughtful people who were excited about the new company and where Ramesh would take JD’s designs.

No, I´m saying it´s paid promotion, because it´s a tiny "start-up" brand on the main page, while other bigger and much more reputable brands are not. Also you cannot "ignore" this thread, it will still show up. The explanation is below.

The Joseph Duclos team reached out to the Purse Forum owners for a partnership. This is also the reason why, if you look back a few pages, Megs offered to relay any questions we may have. And luckily for us, Ramesh Nair himself answered the questions.

 

[FatFIRE]

I would add "educated" to that, as in people who actually understand the design, craftsmanship, and supplier aspects of the JD business model. (My schooling was via previously being an informed longtime client of Moynat.)

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Now we are definitely entering "Emily in Paris" territory...

The thing is that Brigitte Macron is doing these promotions (I´m sure this one unpaid though haha), because she sees it as her "patriotic" mission to promote French luxury brands, especially on her international visits (yes, I know she wore JD in Amsterdam). These bags (and outfits) are not her personal acquisitions, they are displayed for the audience and returned back after use (as explained in the article below).
Brigitte Macron mostly promotes LV (lots of pics when she´s dressed in LV head to toes). Does it mean that LV is for educated, thinking audience, which values craftsmanship and design? Does it elevate LV and put it in H league? I´m sorry, but I don´t think so. By that I don´t mean to say that LV and JD are bad, they are just playing in different leagues quality-wise.

Brigitte Macron : quelles sont ses marques de mode préférées ?

À chacune de ses apparitions, le look de Brigitte Macron est passé au peigne fin. Les tenues de la Première dame, adepte du style casual chic, sont en effet savamment étudiées. Blazer structuré, jean slim, robe droite, talons aiguilles… Gros plan sur ses marques de mode préférées.

www.aufeminin.com

 

[LulaWestLuxe]

I received my Diane Messenger this week! My uneducated American brain is so impressed by both the quality and design of this bag. I’ve attached a few photos for reference - this is the heritage leather in ardoise with gold hardware. I can honestly say I’ve never felt a leather nearly as luxurious as this - and the smell is just insane! I haven’t had a chance to properly use her yet, but just today I’ve removed the protective stickers and filled her up!

I will admit I was a bit nervous about making such an expensive purchase from a brand that I’ve never seen in person! I spent the last year learning everything I could about JD (thank you everyone for your helpful and insightful posts on this thread ) and now that I finally did it, I have zero regrets. It’s not just another handbag - it’s the perfect marriage of style, functionality, and precise craftsmanship, and that iconic hardware is just *chef’s kiss.* It adds the perfect touch of sophistication that will elevate any look. The SAs went above and beyond in their customer service and truly made this feel like a luxurious experience despite being virtual. This was the first time I’ve felt that giddy excitement over a purchase in a very long time! ❤️

 

[Cool Breeze]

I received my Diane Messenger this week! My uneducated American brain is so impressed by both the quality and design of this bag. I’ve attached a few photos for reference - this is the heritage leather in ardoise with gold hardware. I can honestly say I’ve never felt a leather nearly as luxurious as this - and the smell is just insane! I haven’t had a chance to properly use her yet, but just today I’ve removed the protective stickers and filled her up!

I will admit I was a bit nervous about making such an expensive purchase from a brand that I’ve never seen in person! I spent the last year learning everything I could about JD (thank you everyone for your helpful and insightful posts on this thread ) and now that I finally did it, I have zero regrets. It’s not just another handbag - it’s the perfect marriage of style, functionality, and precise craftsmanship, and that iconic hardware is just *chef’s kiss.* It adds the perfect touch of sophistication that will elevate any look. The SAs went above and beyond in their customer service and truly made this feel like a luxurious experience despite being virtual. This was the first time I’ve felt that giddy excitement over a purchase in a very long time! ❤️

Congratulations! It’s gorgeous. Wear it in good health.

 

[Mousy]

No, I´m saying it´s paid promotion, because it´s a tiny "start-up" brand on the main page, while other bigger and much more reputable brands are not. Also you cannot "ignore" this thread, it will still show up. The explanation is below.

Main page doesn’t mean the brand has a ‘paid promotion.’ A few years ago the Moynat crowd was asked if they wanted Moynat on the main page. Back then it was small and relatively new so we said no. I’m surprised it hasn’t made it there. If any company would pay for main page status, I’d think it’d be Moynat with its big LVMH wallet.

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong about JD not paying for a spot on the main page.

By the way, you are correct. You cannot ignore this thread but you can ignore individuals.

Now we are definitely entering "Emily in Paris" territory...

The thing is that Brigitte Macron is doing these promotions (I´m sure this one unpaid though haha), because she sees it as her "patriotic" mission to promote French luxury brands, especially on her international visits (yes, I know she wore JD in Amsterdam). These bags (and outfits) are not her personal acquisitions, they are displayed for the audience and returned back after use (as explained in the article below).
Brigitte Macron mostly promotes LV (lots of pics when she´s dressed in LV head to toes). Does it mean that LV is for educated, thinking audience, which values craftsmanship and design? Does it elevate LV and put it in H league? I´m sorry, but I don´t think so. By that I don´t mean to say that LV and JD are bad, they are just playing in different leagues quality-wise.

Brigitte Macron : quelles sont ses marques de mode préférées ?

À chacune de ses apparitions, le look de Brigitte Macron est passé au peigne fin. Les tenues de la Première dame, adepte du style casual chic, sont en effet savamment étudiées. Blazer structuré, jean slim, robe droite, talons aiguilles… Gros plan sur ses marques de mode préférées.

www.aufeminin.com

HRH Queen Elizabeth wore only British brand clothes and carried a British brand handbag. She required working Royal women to carry only British handbags. I remember Camilla sneaking in an Moynat one time.

After her death, you will find photos of British royal women carrying various brands. King Charles and Camilla eased up on this rule.

Maybe Brigitte Macron likes LV. She just might like JD and Moynat, too. So she’s promoting French brands. Who cares?! But you have to admit she’s an intelligent, cultured woman. @bagnut1 is correct — education plays a part in the success of luxury brands.

 

[Mousy]

I received my Diane Messenger this week! My uneducated American brain is so impressed by both the quality and design of this bag. I’ve attached a few photos for reference - this is the heritage leather in ardoise with gold hardware. I can honestly say I’ve never felt a leather nearly as luxurious as this - and the smell is just insane! I haven’t had a chance to properly use her yet, but just today I’ve removed the protective stickers and filled her up!

I will admit I was a bit nervous about making such an expensive purchase from a brand that I’ve never seen in person! I spent the last year learning everything I could about JD (thank you everyone for your helpful and insightful posts on this thread ) and now that I finally did it, I have zero regrets. It’s not just another handbag - it’s the perfect marriage of style, functionality, and precise craftsmanship, and that iconic hardware is just *chef’s kiss.* It adds the perfect touch of sophistication that will elevate any look. The SAs went above and beyond in their customer service and truly made this feel like a luxurious experience despite being virtual. This was the first time I’ve felt that giddy excitement over a purchase in a very long time! ❤️

It’s beautiful! I the color.

You are too funny — ‘your uneducated American brain.’

 

[crocodilemonkey]

I received my Diane Messenger this week! My uneducated American brain is so impressed by both the quality and design of this bag. I’ve attached a few photos for reference - this is the heritage leather in ardoise with gold hardware. I can honestly say I’ve never felt a leather nearly as luxurious as this - and the smell is just insane! I haven’t had a chance to properly use her yet, but just today I’ve removed the protective stickers and filled her up!

I will admit I was a bit nervous about making such an expensive purchase from a brand that I’ve never seen in person! I spent the last year learning everything I could about JD (thank you everyone for your helpful and insightful posts on this thread ) and now that I finally did it, I have zero regrets. It’s not just another handbag - it’s the perfect marriage of style, functionality, and precise craftsmanship, and that iconic hardware is just *chef’s kiss.* It adds the perfect touch of sophistication that will elevate any look. The SAs went above and beyond in their customer service and truly made this feel like a luxurious experience despite being virtual. This was the first time I’ve felt that giddy excitement over a purchase in a very long time! ❤️

Gorgeous ! Congratulations, I hope you enjoy your bag, good to hear about your lovely experience both during the purchase and on receiving it

 

[bagnut1]

I received my Diane Messenger this week! My uneducated American brain is so impressed by both the quality and design of this bag. I’ve attached a few photos for reference - this is the heritage leather in ardoise with gold hardware. I can honestly say I’ve never felt a leather nearly as luxurious as this - and the smell is just insane! I haven’t had a chance to properly use her yet, but just today I’ve removed the protective stickers and filled her up!

I will admit I was a bit nervous about making such an expensive purchase from a brand that I’ve never seen in person! I spent the last year learning everything I could about JD (thank you everyone for your helpful and insightful posts on this thread ) and now that I finally did it, I have zero regrets. It’s not just another handbag - it’s the perfect marriage of style, functionality, and precise craftsmanship, and that iconic hardware is just *chef’s kiss.* It adds the perfect touch of sophistication that will elevate any look. The SAs went above and beyond in their customer service and truly made this feel like a luxurious experience despite being virtual. This was the first time I’ve felt that giddy excitement over a purchase in a very long time! ❤️

Beautiful, and congratulations! I hope you love your Diane Messenger as much as I love mine.

 

[LulaWestLuxe]

Thank you everyone for your kind words! 🥰 I appreciate this group very much!

 

[allanrvj]

I received my Diane Messenger this week! My uneducated American brain is so impressed by both the quality and design of this bag. I’ve attached a few photos for reference - this is the heritage leather in ardoise with gold hardware. I can honestly say I’ve never felt a leather nearly as luxurious as this - and the smell is just insane! I haven’t had a chance to properly use her yet, but just today I’ve removed the protective stickers and filled her up!

I will admit I was a bit nervous about making such an expensive purchase from a brand that I’ve never seen in person! I spent the last year learning everything I could about JD (thank you everyone for your helpful and insightful posts on this thread ) and now that I finally did it, I have zero regrets. It’s not just another handbag - it’s the perfect marriage of style, functionality, and precise craftsmanship, and that iconic hardware is just *chef’s kiss.* It adds the perfect touch of sophistication that will elevate any look. The SAs went above and beyond in their customer service and truly made this feel like a luxurious experience despite being virtual. This was the first time I’ve felt that giddy excitement over a purchase in a very long time! ❤️

The Diane Messenger in Ardoise looks like it was made specifically for you. It matches your style and your skintone. Enjoy it for years to come!

 

[hachisaurus]

Happy Year of the Dragon! This custom ordered Lectoure wallet by Joseph Duclos has been crafted from lizard skin, which would probably resemble the skin of a dragon (if it exists). I am extremely happy to finally be able to hold this wallet in my hands! The lizard skin is beautiful beyond words, with its tiny round scales and glossy texture. Moreover, the emerald green colour is really striking.

This journey lasted eight months, from the initial payment and selection of the colour of the wallet, all the way to order completion and delivery to my address. I would like to say a big thank you to my mum for this wonderful graduation gift. Thanks are also due to Lumina of Joseph Duclos for coordinating everything from start to end, as well as the craftsmen who made my wallet. It has been a dream come true, and I am glad I chose Joseph Duclos for my graduation gift!