Is there a bag Hierarchy???

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I just caught up with this entire thread - very interesting!!

I have never carried any of the bags mentioned except for 2: I have a Kate Spade black nylon bag and an Hermes Kelly... the rest have all been non-designers like Sak and Fossil... sadly for my checkbook, I have now been spoiled by Hermes.
 
RE Twilly's comment above:
Just goes to show, you don't need to have lots of bags when you invest in a really good one...

Hermes recently were quoted in a Telegraph newspaper interview here in London that they no longer call themselves a luxury brand. They call themselves "last of the artisans". Which is interesting, as they are trying to get out of that comparison with other "luxury" brands that are competing for latest "It" status.
 
I think you've got it pretty much spot on..


Thanks Judy! :flowers:


For me, I'd put Tods a peg higher


You could well be right (if there is a right!), but don't you think that Tod's' perceived status is somewhat affected by the fact that it isn't a R-T-W designer brand?

After all, status isn't just about quality. Otherwise a list would be a lot easier to compile and we'd all, presumably, agree!


and Chloe and ordinary Burberry both a peg lower


Chloe bags are handmade from beautiful materials. Not as high quality as BV (and not suede-lined), admittedly, but still very nice and while Stella and particularly, Phoebe were designing for the house, it had immense fashion kudos (the older bags still have).

I agree that the popularity of the former 'it' bags (such as the Paddy) is beginning to wane, due to overexposure, though and the new designs are certainly not as popular. :yes:

But, Chloe has a lot of loyal fans and if the new Creative Director can produce popular designs, it will definitely rally, IMO. I'm not a naturally brand-loyal person, but I continue to be hopeful about Chloe's future.

Don't you think us Brits are very biased against Burberry, though, due to the Chavvy associations? It still maintains popularity in other parts of the world, but as they are considering transferring production from Wales, I agree that its perceived status will soon be affected in many places. :yes:


and I'd question Mathew Williamson as a leather goods brand...although I might be unaware.


He does make bags. I have one! :D

Mine's leather (pony skin [calfskin]), but some of them are fabric.


And what's the take on artisans like Henry Cuir. Largely unknown, but does that in it's own way have a certain status with some? It's sold in Barneys for years...Curious to know what people think about that.


Beautiful quality bags. :yes:

Personally, assuming there was a design I really liked, I'd far rather have a beautiful quality Henry Cuir bag, than an equally well designed, but less good quality bag, from a well known designer.


Is there an exclusivity about being the first with a new brand, or does it have to be 'out there' before you consider buying it?


I would definitely consider a new brand (or a previously less popular brand, that I feel is on the up). I certainly wouldn't hang around waiting for a brand to gain in popularity; assuming I really loved the designs and the quality was there, of course.

Although, I'm not sure that the fact that other people don't yet know about something can, on its own, be viewed as exclusivity, can it? :shrugs:

I think it's certainly very rewarding to feel that you were one of the first to discover an up-and-coming new brand/a new designer/the resurgence of a previously less successful brand, though. :yes:
 
What about Ferragamo? It seems most of you have forgotten about this designer...


Whoops! :shame:

It's hard to remember every brand and I don't have too much experience of Ferragamo's bags, although there are some very nice looking ones on NM. :heart:

I suppose I'd say around the 11. or 12. mark on my list? But I could well be wrong. :shrugs:
 
Hi All you purse enthusiasts, I was trying to explain to my husband the hierarchy of purses. Does anyone know what it is. Does it start with the really cheap one's that I will not include from Walmart/Payless to D&B to Coach to Chanel to Fendi on up? Which purses are the most prominent, since I know I can't afford the one's above $900. Thanks, this will be fun to read about!
 
Papularity and exclusivity dictate the positioning on the hierarchy of handbags. IMO it differs depending on the location. Some brands are very underrated because they are less well known in that part of the world. eg. Celine as mentioned before is hardly on anybody's list but just because it is less advertised on the UK and US markets. However Celine is big in France and continental Europe. Another example is Loewe. It is only very very well known in Spain as it is a spanish couture house but it makes classic bags that will never go out of fashion. IMO both Celine and Loewe do not make trendy bags. Each season they come up with bags that are just want they want to come up with instead of following the trend of the moment. For me, they are high on my personal brand hierarchy! ;)
 
I find myself agreeing with many of these, but the one I am just not understanding is Chloe. I see Chloe on sale quite a bit (one site was even selling the Edith for around $500 recently!) and while they make very nice bags, I admit I am a bit suprised to see people ranking it above Louis Vuitton, Balenciaga, and Fendi (as well as others.)
 
I think so...my order will Hermes, Chanel, LV (a lot of brands are in same levels with Chanel or LV, but I think those 3 brands stand for the bag Hierarchy) To me, I was buying $30-$75 bags, $100-$300, and now $350-$800, so the next level for me will be over $1000, scary!)
 
:laugh: It seems like no one really agrees. For instance, I would put Hermes at the top...but why? Because it cost more and is a higher quality. However, if I sell two Chloe's I could acquire a Hermes. So it's only hard to get if you don't have the $$$ (and if you have the patience). $$$ and patience doesn't always equal rights to the #1 spot. !

Actually it seems that most people do agree on Hermes being number one.

And not having money and having to wait are not the only factors in being able to acquire Hermes.
 
i still dont get how chanel is higher than LV ...because everyone only thinks of the monos but what about all the limited editions and the leathers...and chanel has an OUTLET! their things DO go on sale, unlike LV..and people say that LV has too many fakes but in montreal, where i live, theres about 20x more chanel fakes than LV so ...


Even with all the limited editions and leathers, I still think Chanel ranks higher than LV. And Chanel may have an outlet, but LV is sold ONLINE on ELUXURY. Ugh. With Chanel I can definitely understand most of the prices we are charged for the bags. With LV I don't feel that way. I think LV is seriously overpriced and I don't think there is really a great deal of craftsmanship with the average LV bag.

Finally, I'm sure if a study could be done, it would be reported that there are more LV fakes than any other brand.
 
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