Is Birkin being devalued or adding value Cardi b

[Chanelandco]

One can wear something very expensive and looks cheap.
One can wear something basic, not expensive at all and looks very classy and elegant.
It is not a matter of brand or money, it is about how we behave...

I need to add that I have a hard time understanding people who want things to be exclusive so that they can enjoy it and not the others...

 

[Gigllee]

For me, the value of Hermes bags stems from the history of Hermes, the exquisite craftsmanship, and the quality of their leather. I don’t really care which celebrities are carrying what bags. I buy the bags because I love them. I am probably more cognizant now about when and where I use my bags since the Birkin is becoming more easily recognizable, but I don’t feel the “value” of my bags has changed for me in any way.

Yes recognizance is on the rise and that's caused me to be more conscious of my surroundings. Same way rappers have been rapping about rollie's and AP I don't think that's caused the value to decline. Let's face it social media is the real culprit of luxury ubiquity

 

[Gigllee]

In 50 years, nobody will remember Cardi B but Hermès will continue to be remembered time and time again. At this point in history, it doesn’t matter who carries the bag, the brand is established and here to stay. So do I think she adds value? No. Do I think she devalues it? Also no. She’s a celebrity, it’s easier for celebrities to have these sought out bags so even if she think she makes them more popular and eventually they’ll become mainstream they still won’t because the average person will never be offered a birkin nor can the average person afford a birkin. I’m more applaud by the fact that she doesn’t realize she’s turning it into a race issue when actually it’s a wealth issue. The birkin is out of reach to 99% of the population, but she has four. Maybe she should try to humble herself?

Well said! Same way the earlier rappers who flossed bugatti and Richard Mille watches have since faded into obscurity

 

[Yoshi1296]

Yes, between Jeffree Star, Kim Kardashian and now Cardi B birkins are kind of ghetto now. They no longer appeal to me personally.

While I can appreciate your insight and empathy, as a black woman I feel this has little to do with race and more with class and sophistication. If the backlash was from Lupita Nyongo vocalizing the Birkin and not Cardi B I could totally understand the race argument.

Does Hermes really want their flagship product to not only become more ubiquitous (via the proliferation of fakes) but associated with the most degenerate faction of society? Way more people outside of Cardi B's mindset and lifestyle buy Hermes brand.

I completely disagree but I just want to say that...

You can hold this opinion if you'd like but the context of the word "ghetto" in the way you used it in your post is extremely hurtful and offensive.

You could have expressed your opinion in a less degenerate way without using that term in that context...

 

[Gabs007]

I completely disagree but I just want to say that...

You can hold this opinion if you'd like but the context of the word "ghetto" in the way you used it in your post is extremely hurtful and offensive.

You could have expressed your opinion in a less degenerate way without using that term in that context...

Tbh, I think the word "ghetto" needs to be redefined, I often refer to a part of town where the real estate agents are as the "real estate agent ghetto" and the part where all the Drs surgeries are as the "medical ghetto", or to Belgravia as "embassy and high end boutique ghetto" I am not trying to put realtors down or Drs or embassies, I just think it is plainly unfair that there is that negative connotation, it should be a place where certain groups or professions dwell, not a downtrodden bit, if that makes sense? Before I switched jobs, I worked a lot as a journalist, a friend who ran a gay magazine said "If you put yourself into a ghetto do not complain, we want to break down the ghetto mentality" - people always tend to flock to certain areas, it might be income, it might be race, it might be profession, given that, Beverly Hills or parts of London are "rich ghettos"

As for people being upset that a female rapper with pigmentation who is pretty much in your face is successful and enjoys luxury goods, I am waiting to see their outrage that WAGs (who usually are spray tanned to the colour of an Oompa Loompa, tangerine is not a normal hue for humans) are carrying Birkins

 

[MaryAndDogs]

Hi purse lovers!

I saw tonight that Cardi B posted an Instagram video where she said people on the internet were talking about her and other female rappers carrying Birkin Bags. She said people online were saying that “by her carrying the Birkin bag and other female rappers that the Birkin bag and or hermes was getting the de-valued.” She explained that from her perspective she had added a bunch of value to Birkin and Hermes by making it more main stream. And her and other rappers carrying a Birkin bag added value to the Hermes.


What do you all think, is the Birkin Bag getting added value or devaluing? I’m curious!




Here’s a link to the video also

I would comment but I was blinded by those gigantic boobs!

 

[Four Tails]

Tbh, I think the word "ghetto" needs to be redefined, I often refer to a part of town where the real estate agents are as the "real estate agent ghetto" and the part where all the Drs surgeries are as the "medical ghetto", or to Belgravia as "embassy and high end boutique ghetto" I am not trying to put realtors down or Drs or embassies, I just think it is plainly unfair that there is that negative connotation, it should be a place where certain groups or professions dwell, not a downtrodden bit, if that makes sense? Before I switched jobs, I worked a lot as a journalist, a friend who ran a gay magazine said "If you put yourself into a ghetto do not complain, we want to break down the ghetto mentality" - people always tend to flock to certain areas, it might be income, it might be race, it might be profession, given that, Beverly Hills or parts of London are "rich ghettos"

As for people being upset that a female rapper with pigmentation who is pretty much in your face is successful and enjoys luxury goods, I am waiting to see their outrage that WAGs (who usually are spray tanned to the colour of an Oompa Loompa, tangerine is not a normal hue for humans) are carrying Birkins

I hear you, and I think you're using the word very differently based on how you explain it and where you live (not in the US, if I recall correctly). The distinction is that the word ghetto is unambiguously pejorative in America. Ghetto is used almost exclusively to describe and define a specific kind of person here. It isn't kind.

 

[Gabs007]

I would comment but I was blinded by those gigantic boobs!

I am a 34 F (and I would love to be just a regular B or C cup) the boobs don't freak me out, the nails do and the way the upper lip doesn't move makes me think "Sod it, girl, what have you done to your face" but in the end, it's her face and she can do what she likes with it, but ffs, get rid of the nails. But the message is OK, you are who you are, no matter which bag or brand you buy

 

[Yoshi1296]

Tbh, I think the word "ghetto" needs to be redefined, I often refer to a part of town where the real estate agents are as the "real estate agent ghetto" and the part where all the Drs surgeries are as the "medical ghetto", or to Belgravia as "embassy and high end boutique ghetto" I am not trying to put realtors down or Drs or embassies, I just think it is plainly unfair that there is that negative connotation, it should be a place where certain groups or professions dwell, not a downtrodden bit, if that makes sense? Before I switched jobs, I worked a lot as a journalist, a friend who ran a gay magazine said "If you put yourself into a ghetto do not complain, we want to break down the ghetto mentality" - people always tend to flock to certain areas, it might be income, it might be race, it might be profession, given that, Beverly Hills or parts of London are "rich ghettos"

As for people being upset that a female rapper with pigmentation who is pretty much in your face is successful and enjoys luxury goods, I am waiting to see their outrage that WAGs (who usually are spray tanned to the colour of an Oompa Loompa, tangerine is not a normal hue for humans) are carrying Birkins

I'm going to politely disagree with you there. The term is extremely offensive given its origins and initial meaning, which came from Europe during the 1500s and was used again negatively during the Holocaust era.

It's just not okay, and not a word that should be used aside from historical context and discussion.

As a person that studied journalism myself, and that is also gay...your gay journalist friend's use of that term is extremely concerning considering the fact that they publish their work for the public to view through the magazine they "run."

Certain words should not redefined, they should be ghosted. Racial epithets fall into that category.

 

[Christina48576]

Tbh, I think the word "ghetto" needs to be redefined, I often refer to a part of town where the real estate agents are as the "real estate agent ghetto" and the part where all the Drs surgeries are as the "medical ghetto", or to Belgravia as "embassy and high end boutique ghetto" I am not trying to put realtors down or Drs or embassies, I just think it is plainly unfair that there is that negative connotation, it should be a place where certain groups or professions dwell, not a downtrodden bit, if that makes sense? Before I switched jobs, I worked a lot as a journalist, a friend who ran a gay magazine said "If you put yourself into a ghetto do not complain, we want to break down the ghetto mentality" - people always tend to flock to certain areas, it might be income, it might be race, it might be profession, given that, Beverly Hills or parts of London are "rich ghettos"

With all due respect, that is for the people against whom this word has been used and who were given no other choice about where they could live. The use of it here, IMHO, only reinforces what Cardi was saying. And it is inappropriate to use it so casually considering its history. This is a really good NPR article that discusses the origins and history.

 

[Gabs007]

I hear you, and I think you're using the word very differently based on how you explain it and where you live (not in the US, if I recall correctly). The distinction is that the word ghetto is unambiguously pejorative in America. Ghetto is used almost exclusively to describe and define a specific kind of person here. It isn't kind.

I know that, that is why I try to apply it to everything, I used to live in the US and used it for the part of Beverly Hills where the Sinai Cedars is, simply because I HATE the unkind connotation, in the end, none of us had a choice into which areas or circumstances we were born into. If anything KK flashing H, that makes me cringe. Somebody being born into what the US defines as ghetto can have a lot more style and integrity than nouveau rich trash

 

[Gabs007]

With all due respect, that is for the people against whom this word has been used and who were given no other choice about where they could live. The use of it here, IMHO, only reinforces what Cardi was saying. And it is inappropriate to use it so casually considering its history. This is a really good NPR article that discusses the origins and history.

Given that I grew up in Germany, I am well aware of the origins of the word, but I however much you and others might disagree, words only have the power people give them, you can reclaim that power, or you can show how meaningless it is, by applying it to a group of people or professions gathering in a certain spot. Words have been reclaimed, and I think it is really time that ghetto is reclaimed, especially since far too many people use it as an insult

 

[Christina48576]

Given that I grew up in Germany, I am well aware of the origins of the word, but I however much you and others might disagree, words only have the power people give them, you can reclaim that power, or you can show how meaningless it is, by applying it to a group of people or professions gathering in a certain spot. Words have been reclaimed, and I think it is really time that ghetto is reclaimed, especially since far too many people use it as an insult

A word carries history but it is still used today as a racial epithet and that kind of segregation is very, very real, especially in the US. It is inappropriate for someone to try and reclaim words that are that are not part of your sexual, racial, or ethnic self-identification. Using it casually doesn't take the power away but is extremely hurtful. I merely ask people listen to people of color on the impact of their words.

 

[Gabs007]

A word carries history but it is still used today as a racial epithet and that kind of segregation is very, very real, especially in the US. It is inappropriate for someone to try and reclaim words that are that are not part of your sexual, racial, or ethnic self-identification. Using it casually doesn't take the power away but is extremely hurtful. I merely ask people listen to people of color, like Yoshi above, on the impact of their words.

That is your opinion, mine is different, but as they say opinions are like .... everybody has one, doesn't make yours more valid than mine, be well, I think I use ignore

 

[haute okole]

I respect how the word “ghetto” may trigger outrage in some. BTW, the poster who used the word ghetto is African American and used it as descriptive, which she is free to do, not withstanding the hurt feelings. My feelings were not hurt. However, where is the outrage with Cardi B’s repetitive use of the N word in the clip posted by the OP? Cardi B devalues herself. The Hermes she carries is like putting lipstick on a pig, she is still vulgar no matter which way you cut it. On top of that, she is running around Beverly Hills demanding respect and admiration while her husband and cousin are flashing loaded guns at people on the street. She is just gross.